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To think Liz Truss just threw KK under the bus?!

199 replies

WakeUpAndBe · 02/10/2022 09:54

Laura Kuenssberg: Did you discuss the top rate 45% tax cut with the whole cabinet?

Truss: No. It's a decision the Chancellor made.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-politics-63074338

An Oxford professor has started a petition asking if Can Truss and Kwarteng be prosecuted for Misconduct in Public Office. Now we know that Truss will seek to shift blame onto KK.

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Croque · 02/10/2022 15:57

"It's the economy, stupid" ---->
"Stupid, it's the economy" you don't have a grip on, Liz !

PestorPeston · 02/10/2022 16:25

Can people please remember that the triple lock was suspended last year and is not due to return until next year. Pensions will not be seeing a 10% rise.

WakeUpAndBe · 02/10/2022 16:29

the80sweregreat · 02/10/2022 14:56

Liz Truss today on bbc one said the triple lock on state pensions is staying.

She views pensions in a different category. The message is different, isn’t it?

Pension recipients are likely to be Conservative voters, right?

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Abhannmor · 02/10/2022 16:30

AnyRandomName · 02/10/2022 11:37

From what I hear, from a trusted source, very close to each other indeed...

I keep reading/ hearing this. But there's no proof ? She had an extra marital affair with her political mentor, whose marriage subsequently ended.
Karteng had a relationship with his as well. They were both on a list given to May - by the spooks I suppose.

But really their biggest fault was writing Britannia Unhinged!

WakeUpAndBe · 02/10/2022 16:37

Abhannmor · 02/10/2022 16:30

I keep reading/ hearing this. But there's no proof ? She had an extra marital affair with her political mentor, whose marriage subsequently ended.
Karteng had a relationship with his as well. They were both on a list given to May - by the spooks I suppose.

But really their biggest fault was writing Britannia Unhinged!

Maybe they accept affairs and flings as a way of letting off steam in a high pressured job?!

That it’s just part of the culture. Viewed as a healthy way to cope as long they understand it’s just fun and nothing serious.

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the80sweregreat · 02/10/2022 16:38

Of course they can't go after the main Tory voters so the triple lock stays.
My neighbours are all about the reform party now ! They are fed up with the Tories giving ' handouts ' to people ( unless it's them)
They were upset I got the council tax rebate in May and they didn't ( band E)
I feel that a few might jump ship, but keeping the core voters happy is important to them.

Abhannmor · 02/10/2022 16:43

Just saw Goldpaw's post and I stand corrected .

I would judge them WakeUpAndBe . The problems arise when you appoint an ex lover to a cabinet job though. Colleagues are bound to suspect favouritism.

WakeUpAndBe · 02/10/2022 16:44

the80sweregreat · 02/10/2022 16:38

Of course they can't go after the main Tory voters so the triple lock stays.
My neighbours are all about the reform party now ! They are fed up with the Tories giving ' handouts ' to people ( unless it's them)
They were upset I got the council tax rebate in May and they didn't ( band E)
I feel that a few might jump ship, but keeping the core voters happy is important to them.

Protecting their main voting block was one of the reasons for lockdown.

I wonder why @sst1234 doesn’t see that as a political move?

Also concerning that in that debate with Sunak, Truss put the pandemic down to a once in a hundred years quirk. Truth is we don’t know… it doesn’t work exactly like clockwork and the variables are different with climate change (which I’m not sure she believes in anyway).

Truss needs to act more cautiously… it is possible another crisis might hit us.

Most likely another world war. Really hope not. But it’s not impossible

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Abhannmor · 02/10/2022 17:57

Meant to say ' I wouldn't judge them'.

I'm not the Junior Anti Sex League.

MarshaMelrose · 02/10/2022 18:29

Goldpaw · 02/10/2022 14:19

Ah, there's that list!

Seriously? That's the great trusted list. Jake Berry impregnated Alice Robinson? His girlfriend who he married and had 2 more children with. It was actually decried as being a list put together by researchers ( not spooks 🙄 ) in an article by The Mirror (hardly a Tory paper!) and was taken from gossip written in newspapers. Even some of the supposed victims have denied the allegations.

I hope Liz Truss is gone by the end of the month but for things she's done and not for twitter gossip.

Croque · 02/10/2022 20:18

I thought Jake Berry was on the other bus?

Scary Spice has just spoken at the conference.

It gets stranger and stranger.

the80sweregreat · 02/10/2022 20:30

Jake Berry believes that people should get another job or just work harder to pay the bills.

Croque · 02/10/2022 20:35

I wonder if we will eventually morph into a mini America in terms of employment rights and healthcare. It seems to be heading in that direction.

Maireas · 02/10/2022 20:37

Always "thrown under the bus".
It's used all the time on MN.
Clearly the expression of the moment.

the80sweregreat · 02/10/2022 20:43

She passed the buck ! That's a better saying but nobody used it anymore

Maireas · 02/10/2022 20:44

the80sweregreat · 02/10/2022 20:43

She passed the buck ! That's a better saying but nobody used it anymore

Yes, you don't hear that so much now.

WakeUpAndBe · 02/10/2022 20:49

the80sweregreat · 02/10/2022 20:30

Jake Berry believes that people should get another job or just work harder to pay the bills.

Jake Berry needs to check his privileges.

Not as easy for key workers….

And aren’t unions protesting for better wages in existing jobs that need doing?

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worriedniece · 02/10/2022 20:49

Makes her look like an idiot saying she didn't discuss major decisions when she is the PM

MarshaMelrose · 02/10/2022 20:51

Croque · 02/10/2022 20:18

I thought Jake Berry was on the other bus?

Scary Spice has just spoken at the conference.

It gets stranger and stranger.

If so, he's very closeted. He's married two women and has 3 children with his second wife, Alice Robinson.

the80sweregreat · 02/10/2022 20:55

This Jake berry man sounds awful :(
If your a teacher or already working a 40 hour week , how can you do another job ?
It's a bit like the man who suggested 10p a day meals or whatever: no idea.

WakeUpAndBe · 02/10/2022 20:58

Truss’s mini-budget looks likely to cost the Tories the next election

Agreed.

Highlight of today’s politics for me is Michael Gove describing Truss’ policy of borrowing to fund tax cuts for the wealthiest in society during a cost of living crisis not conservative and not right either. Good for him!

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the80sweregreat · 02/10/2022 21:00

Michael Gove has put a fear into them all
I'm glad it's a conservative that's done this too.
It might backfire , but today he told the truth

cakeorwine · 02/10/2022 21:06

Sunak, Truss and Kwarteng have just written the next Labour adverts.

All you need is clips from some of the debates with Sunak saying what would happen, Truss denying it. Kwarteng supporting it, Truss saying about her views and then a few news clips with people talking about mortgages, cost of living etc

Then you go to the Labour point of view and what they would do.

WakeUpAndBe · 02/10/2022 21:18

worriedniece · 02/10/2022 20:49

Makes her look like an idiot saying she didn't discuss major decisions when she is the PM

KK gave himself and colleagues a stealth pay rise through the tax cuts.

If the hedge fund managers are calling KK a “useful idiot” then I wonder what they call Liz Truss?!

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KATS71136 · 02/10/2022 21:53

cakeorwine · 02/10/2022 21:06

Sunak, Truss and Kwarteng have just written the next Labour adverts.

All you need is clips from some of the debates with Sunak saying what would happen, Truss denying it. Kwarteng supporting it, Truss saying about her views and then a few news clips with people talking about mortgages, cost of living etc

Then you go to the Labour point of view and what they would do.

fab Idea! 😆