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Feel used by step kids

227 replies

Strugglinsm · 01/10/2022 13:53

Hi, first time post, please be kind, but I could do with an outside view.
Basically I have been in relationship with my partner for almost 6 years. He has 4 children and when we first met, eldest was at uni, middle 2 lived with him and youngest was 50-50 between him and his ex. All was fine for 4 years, I had my own flat, visited him mainly at weekends, he would come to me mid week if youngest child not around, it worked great. When I was at his house I was always polite and respectful to the kids, interested in what they were doing, even used to bake cakes to take round, helped with cooking, laundry, lifts out etc. But I always had my own place to go back to, my little cave!
I should probably say that I do not have children of my own, and we are both in our 50s.
Anyway, 2 years ago, third child left for uni and his ex pushed for the family home to be sold, she wanted her money. The agreement had always been that he could live there with the kids until the eldest 3 left home so it wasn’t unexpected. He moved in with me to my 2 bed flat and I sacrificed my study to become a bedroom for youngest child to be able to continue to visit with his dad. When older kids came back in uni hols they had to stay with other friends or relatives, their mother being in the same position as us.
Last year his ex moved to France taking youngest child with her and we moved out of the flat and bought a house together.
My issue (sorry it took so long to get here!) is that now, all 4 of the kids turn up to ‘visit’ usually at the same time/overlapping and often at short notice. There was at least one of the here for the whole of July and august…10 weeks..I hate the way they treat me and the house. They treat it like a b&b, never sit with us to eat, bring friends back to stay over, help themselves to food and drink without asking, never replace anything they’ve used, towels all over bathroom floor etc. I guess it’s good they are comfortable and treating it like home, but it stresses me enormously. I hate not knowing who’s in the house….I hate meeting total strangers in the kitchen in the morning because one of them got lucky the previous eve….I hate my car being blocked on the drive by one of their mates who leaves it there when they go out….I hate being told ‘to chill’ when I complain about them leaving dirty dishes and laundry everywhere. I can’t relax, I’m tense all the time and I do snap at them, its causing problems between me and my partner as he is just pleased to see them and have his family around him, but it’s not the new family home…it’s my home and his and they are guests…These are not children, the eldest 3 have all now graduated and are over 21, even the youngest is 15 but he copies the elder siblings. I feel like they just use us as a free hotel. I admit I am not used to sharing my space with others, but I do not think it unreasonable that when they visit they are polite and respectful, not just coming in the door and upstairs to their rooms without even saying hello. I view them as selfish, when their father was in hospital, none of them came to visit him, nor did they ring me to see how I was coping.
Now they want to come to stay when we have plans to be away. I have said no, but their dad sees no reason why they can’t just stay here alone. AIBU in feeling upset and unsupported? I do not want people I don’t trust staying in my house while I’m away.

OP posts:
Devilishpyjamas · 01/10/2022 19:14

If my partner changed locks to keep my kids out it would signal loud and clear that this relationship was never going to work

AutumnCrow · 01/10/2022 19:14

Devilishpyjamas · 01/10/2022 19:07

I have kids of a similar age. They treat our house similarly (without the one night stands thank god) and tbh I wouldn’t want it any other way. It’s their home. It all sounds a bit incompatible tbh.

Can I just get this right?

These adults literally leave used towels all over your bathroom floor?

Each to their own I suppose.

kitcat15 · 01/10/2022 19:17

This is what a lot of young adult DC are like…bad enough when it’s your own….but you tolerate it because they are your blood…in your case I would say there’s going to be a good few more years of this…..so maybe decide what you are willing to put up with and if it doesn’t match your partners expectations then go back to living in your separate homes…,otherwise the relationship is doomed

Redburnett · 01/10/2022 19:18

Obviously the adult children treat it as their home as it is their father's house as far as they are concerned. I don't think it is likely to change. Can you afford to buy a small flat to escape to?

WickedStepmomNOT · 01/10/2022 19:18

Devilishpyjamas · 01/10/2022 19:07

I have kids of a similar age. They treat our house similarly (without the one night stands thank god) and tbh I wouldn’t want it any other way. It’s their home. It all sounds a bit incompatible tbh.

But its not there home! Its OP and DH home and as uni grads they are old enough to realize they should be respectful and polite not messy and rude. They can still be welcome to visit but as decent people would, not messy brats. They are uni grads FFS! What kind of workmates will they be when they get jobs? Nightmare with those attitudes. Family life doesnt mean being inconsiderate. Big difference between relaxed family visit and nightmare 'guests' - its up to them.

LuckySantangelo35 · 01/10/2022 19:20

AutumnCrow · 01/10/2022 18:52

But it's not the 'coming and going', is it?

Who here honestly lives with wet towels left all over the floor, dirty dishes left out, dirty laundry left out, no food and drink left?

What kinds of households are these?

@AutumnCrow

ones where the woman smiles indulgently and picks up after everyone and goes to Asda every night after work to stock back up

Devilishpyjamas · 01/10/2022 19:21

To the father they are his kids. That’s the point. She wants them to act as guests. He sees them as being in family home. Incompatible. Not sure what difference being uni grads makes. Have you seen student halls/homes?

Brefugee · 01/10/2022 19:22

sorry - what a pain. You need to get him to buy you out and get your own place again. This is only going to get worse when they have kids and dump them on you for babysitting etc

Ponderingwindow · 01/10/2022 19:22

My child is always going to be welcome to visit my home. I would expect her to treat it like her home and pitch in, but not to be on perfect guest behavior. Especially the few years after uni, it is a transitional time and I want her to treat my home like hers, even as she creates her own.

random overnight guests are not something that I am ok with so that is a nonstarter. I need to know who is in my house. That is true at any age and for anyone who lives here.

This doesn’t seem like a step kid problem. It feels more like a fundamental incompatibility with life goals between you and your partner.

Kennykenkencat · 01/10/2022 19:22

Short of splitting up and living separately I think you need to think of say 3 things that annoy you the most and think about how you can put in place routines where you don’t have to deal with these things or at least cut down the anxiety they produce.
Eg putting an extra large laundry basket in the bathroom and in their bedrooms and asking that instead of leaving the towels on the floor and laundry everywhere it is put in the laundry baskets
Saying that if they come in or go out then can they please pop their heads round the door to say they are in or are on the way out.
This is just a basic safety measure. If the house caught fire then you wouldn’t waste time and put their fathers life or a fireman’s life in danger trying to find some one who isn’t in the house in the first place.

Do you have a dishwasher. If not then I would get one and ask they put there dirty plates in it.
Even a counter top one would take care of some of the issues.

Laundry found around the house doesn’t get done and gets put in a big plastic sack
with everyone else’s stuff that is found around the house.

Ultimately you are with someone who has children. They aren’t guests in the houses where their parents live. They are family and the house is home.

whynotwhatknot · 01/10/2022 19:23

no i never left home then came back like i still lived there-and didnt bring random people back with me weither

LuckySantangelo35 · 01/10/2022 19:25

Devilishpyjamas · 01/10/2022 19:07

I have kids of a similar age. They treat our house similarly (without the one night stands thank god) and tbh I wouldn’t want it any other way. It’s their home. It all sounds a bit incompatible tbh.

@Devilishpyjamas

its not their home
its yours
its your name on the mortgage
also how do u think they will cope with something like a house share whicH most young adults so at some point in their twenties- they will not be v popular with their housemates!

thing47 · 01/10/2022 19:25

The problem here is mismatched expectations around family life. He sees this as his DCs coming to visit, you see it as unexpected guests arriving. Not sure either of you are wrong, as such, you just have a different perspective.

The problem is that any attempt by you to impose boundaries, however reasonable, will need his backing, otherwise they won't be enforced and you'll just be left feeling frustrated. If he doesn't support putting rules in place then unfortunately it's hard to see any conclusion other than that of you not living together.

Relevanceiskey · 01/10/2022 19:27

WickedStepmomNOT · 01/10/2022 19:13

@Relevanceiskey what kind of kids are you bringing up if theyre allowed to be messy and disrespectful? Whod want to be there partner? By not sorting there manners your making problems for someone else later!

I dont agree with no more visits but I do agree with visits on OPs terms - respectful and tidy like a good person / house guest not an entitled brat.

@WickedStepmomNOT "email them a copy of the house rules"?!

This was part 1 on "how to make your step kids feel unwelcome in what essentially is their home"!

Join us for part 2 where we will teach you how to get them to call you by your title instead of your name!

Find someone single if this is how you are going to treat them

MossGrowsFat · 01/10/2022 19:28

ClocksGoingBackwards · 01/10/2022 16:34

I wouldn’t like this either, but what did you expect when you decided to live with a man who had children the age he did. Your step children are using their dad home like any young adult uses their parents home. Your partner should have got his own home to accommodate his children.

I wouldn't expect this. I do not expect my biological adult children to treat my home like that, and I'm still married to their dad.

AnneElliott · 01/10/2022 19:29

I can see why they think it's their home- but what is their dad saying when they leave their shot about the place? I wouldn't have that from my DS.

And bringing one night stands back is grim - you definitely need to set some ground rules about that.

MossGrowsFat · 01/10/2022 19:30

This is what a lot of young adult DC are like…bad enough when it’s your own….but you tolerate it

Nope, only those that have been brought up to believe they are princes/ess behave like this, children that have been parented don't.

LuckySantangelo35 · 01/10/2022 19:30

Relevanceiskey · 01/10/2022 19:27

@WickedStepmomNOT "email them a copy of the house rules"?!

This was part 1 on "how to make your step kids feel unwelcome in what essentially is their home"!

Join us for part 2 where we will teach you how to get them to call you by your title instead of your name!

Find someone single if this is how you are going to treat them

@Relevanceiskey

its not their home

if they wanna eat all the food and leave wet towels all over and bring back One night stands they can buy own house can’t they

the pandering to adult dc on here is RIDICULOUS

Isthisit22 · 01/10/2022 19:30

Typical anti step parent answers.
It is absolutely not normal for twenty somethings who live elsewhere to turn up when they choose and treat the house/people in it disrespectfully.
My own children will not be allowed to behave this way.
Set normal rules and expect them to stick to them.

WickedStepmomNOT · 01/10/2022 19:30

Devilishpyjamas · 01/10/2022 19:21

To the father they are his kids. That’s the point. She wants them to act as guests. He sees them as being in family home. Incompatible. Not sure what difference being uni grads makes. Have you seen student halls/homes?

Uni grads are older than first years and should be at the stage of starting out on there careers looking for jobs. Time to act more responsibly - world doesnt owe them a living. Start with displaying basic manners when visiting parent and new wife!

I can just see some of the people here with the 'oh its there home they can do what they like' attitude being very cross when there daughters partner with someone like this.... how do they think unsuitable feckless partners get that way?

MossGrowsFat · 01/10/2022 19:32

Relevanceiskey · 01/10/2022 19:27

@WickedStepmomNOT "email them a copy of the house rules"?!

This was part 1 on "how to make your step kids feel unwelcome in what essentially is their home"!

Join us for part 2 where we will teach you how to get them to call you by your title instead of your name!

Find someone single if this is how you are going to treat them

So you think it is acceptable for an adult to bring another stranger adult home and shag on your bed?
And then let adults leave wet towels on the floor and mess in the kitchen and expect you to clean up?

Yes perfectly normal behaviour.

Devilishpyjamas · 01/10/2022 19:32

LuckySantangelo35 · 01/10/2022 19:25

@Devilishpyjamas

its not their home
its yours
its your name on the mortgage
also how do u think they will cope with something like a house share whicH most young adults so at some point in their twenties- they will not be v popular with their housemates!

Of course it’s their home. Look our house bears the scars of a very severely disabled brother who put his head through many of the walls and windows and we are slowly doing it up. They know how to load a dishwasher, Use a washing machine, cook and shop. They are pretty house trained and have had no problems with house shares. But we do not have a pristine house and some damp towels until someone takes them to the washing machine is not high on the list on priorities. I would be completely incompatible with someone who got upset at kids leaving towels on the floor.

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 01/10/2022 19:39

It’s the dc’s home too.

Wasn’t this discussed before you moved in together?

Hayliebells · 01/10/2022 19:39

Brefugee · 01/10/2022 19:22

sorry - what a pain. You need to get him to buy you out and get your own place again. This is only going to get worse when they have kids and dump them on you for babysitting etc

Oh yes, you need to have a conversation with your DP about what happens in the future with regards to looking after grandchildren now really. See what he expects/would like to happen, and be really clear about what you will tolerate. You thought his kids staying over regularly was time limited (did he give you that impression) and that hasn't happened, there has been some miscommunication along the way. Even if it's just the odd weekend, or help with childcare in the school holidays, he has 4 kids, that's potentially a lot of grandchildren! If this is not something you like the sound of, tbh I think it's better just to cut your losses now, sell up and get your own place. There's very little point in living like this through their 20s/early 30s with them coming and going, waiting for them to get established in their own homes, only for them to drop their grandchildren on you as soon as they've got to that stage.

Ellatella · 01/10/2022 19:40

His children should always be welcome in his home and shouldn't have to ask permission to stay. His home is their home.
However bringing random people back to the house to stay the night and blocking your car in is unreasonable.
My children will always be welcome in my home no matter their age and if I ever got a new partner and he said they weren't welcome, the relationship would be no more.