To think Starmer is starting to show some original ideas?

[CurseOfBigness]

“He pledges to set up a publicly-owned green energy company within a year if he is elected, with 100% clean power by 2030”

Sounds enterprising and different to the bog standard ‘we’re going to nationalise everything’. There’s agency with it being green energy and good for the environment. Sounds more like responsible nationalisation…

“He says the war in Ukraine was the spark that caused rising energy costs, but that the country was not in a position to deal with it.”

And that’s insightful. Sounds like he’s thought something through.

Being reported Live from Labour conference: www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-politics-63042145

P.S. I’m a centric voter who swings and sways depending on what’s going on at the time and what’s on offer etc.
Right now, I do not like Truss’ government because she seems irresponsible (dodging the OBR report for the mini budget with semantics) and she just doesn’t care…
Labour as the obvious opposition but there are other options. This is the first time in a while I’ve seen Starmer present a fresh new idea…

Don't be a drama queen.

We knew the interest rates were going to be increased for months and months now, this is not a surprise to anyone but you it seems.

You can not claim the spending cuts will affect women and children - it is down to the councils to make decisions on where there can be savings.

We can not carry on as we are. Full stop. We need growth to head off a deep world wide recession. I agree with many of the Truss decisions, and I think they will work.

We need to hold our nerve.

I agree with many of the Truss decisions, and I think they will work Am sure your faith will reassure the markets @Kissingfrogs25

In fact I would expect a revised statement from the IMF once you explain precisely how these policies will lead to economic growth... Oh, you can't explain it? It is just blind faith? That's disappointing.

You sound really knowledgeable, the detailed economic analysis in your posts is really enlightening

But we want one of Labours new ideas to be about women’s rights, safeguarding women and children, accurate sex based data collection. Repeal of the damage done to women.
This has happened under a Tory government, but we all sleep walked into the situation where mens feelings are more important than women rights and safety.
What are Labours policies to stop and reverse the damage done by the GRC and gender affirming care, the sacking of people with gender critical views, or even liking a tweet.
police have been arresting women for putting a sticker on a lamppost, male bodied sex offenders have been housed in women’s prisons, Children have been put on puberty blockers which has life long effects on fertility. And this in the UK. But the labour part dismisses these concerns.
You can’t post on a women’s forum and then complain that you don’t like the issues that women raise. You have to start listening and then acting on the concerns raised, to use a well worn phrase, “Educate Yourself “.

at least if we had a labour government we could protest about woman’s rights. Under Torys it’s looking less likely we can object to anything

Great knowingly elect a party where women are impacted enough to protest

Depressing

It is pretty desperate how any discussion of any political or economic issue becomes about self-ID, which is a Tory policy anyway. The situation we have around women's rights is clearly Tory doing, as they are the government and have chosen what is currently happening in prisons, schools, healthcare etc.

Funny that isn’t it.

You’d almost think it was a top priority for women, the way every thread goes this way.

It may be a priority for those women who drag it into every thread and take the thread over. Some of us feel other matters are more of a priority for us and would like to discuss then.

Great knowingly elect a party where women are impacted enough to protest

opposed to knowingly electing a party that woman & men are banned from protesting

Like i said, start a thread titled "What are labours new ideas on protecting women's rights wrecked after 12 years of Tory rule?"

Instead of making this thread all about the ONE idea you want us all to discuss.

But you wont do that will you? because what you want to do is wreck any positivity toward Labour, its not as if you have mentioned anything else is it.

I will hang fire on Labour and TWAW until i read their manifesto.

What i am delighted about is they are looking to speed up rape investigations/ prosecutions.. pity you can't be at least a little happy about that :(

New poll just out puts Labour 33 points ahead which is pretty historic. I guess the mini-budget is not "yesterdays news" after all!

It’s going to be a shame when Labour lose again - as they undoubtedly will, even in these conditions

That can't last, but I will enjoy it while it does, that is fucking mental.

I would just love to be a fly on the wall in No.10 today

Truss is worse at media interviews than the Maybot! I love it.

Nadine Dorries has been proven right

My understanding was that many Tory party members supported Truss as the idea was that she could be manipulated from behind the scenes

well it doesn’t look like that is the case

I do believe Labour will win the next election but it must not be taken for granted. I wouldn’t be surprised if Truss is challenged and gone next year the Tories won’t waste time as they know there is a real risk of not just not being in power but losing a large number of seats

Truss interviews today were shockingly poor I couldn’t even be amused

You think people will forget this act of national hari-kari in a hurry?

What a drama! Yes I don’t think people will care one jot in 18 months!

Yes, the last few days have been quite a drama. The behaviour of this PM and Chancellor is unprecedented.

I think this opening from Radio Leeds is great 'Where've you bin?' twitter.com/dinosofos/status/1575381418464739328

What a drama! Yes I don’t think people will care one jot in 18 months!

A sincere question @Kissingfrogs25 - what makes you think people won't care one jot in 18 months if their mortgage repayments are crippling / not possible to meet?

Christ, no. But I suppose after all shit sandwiches we’ve been eating, a wet lettuce would probably taste like caviar.

😂At least there’s humour still

(just on here)

Don't worry we won't pander you crack on digging your holes if it makes you happy. Back on planet earth Labour have just had a 33% lead.

The deluded are doubling down you lot are bordering on irrelevance now. Labour is heading for the greatest landslide since ww2 good luck with your glee club.