To hope that we welcome men fleeing Russia

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Many are fleeing Putin's Press Gangs.
The EU Council President has recommended that the EU offer them asylum.

It must be bloody terrifying and, although we're not in the EU longer, I hope that this government follow his example and offer sanctuary as we have done for fleeing Ukrainians.

I know that they will be young men and not need to live with families in the same way that Ukrainian women and children did so although that would be ideal, it's not essential and hostels/hotels could be used.

Will you offer a home if asked? I can't but I would like to help in some way.
AIBU to hope that we will help these fleeing Russians?

I wonder, being half Russian does that mean I’m only half an orc, and only half the enemy?

It’s men fleeing Russia rather than women because it’s men being conscripted. Men stayed and fought in Ukraine because they couldn’t leave, and because they also wanted to defend their homeland from invasion. A lot of the men fleeing will be the ones opposed to the war, they’re not going to want to participate in it.

Yes, I know.
That's why I wondered if we were going to do it, as well as the EU!

Out of interest are the men stick at the border being let through, albeit slowly, or is it blocked completely

Just googled and saw the long line of cars

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I see, thank you for clarifying.
So you won't take one into your home, even though you believe it to be a good solution. Perfect, in fact.
Failing that, hotels and hostels?

Ok. So because we can't offer a perfect solution, let's not offer one at all!

What an odd way to live your life.

What would young Russian men, who probably do not speak English, do here? How would they pass the time? I understand Russian men are the world's greatest alcoholics (along with Belarusians).

We can’t house the people already here, never mind more immigrants! No way should we take any of these Russian men.

So many of our own people are struggling with the rise in the cost of living, we need to help those who are already here first.

No, I can barely afford to feed my own children and put a roof over our heads never mind invite a total stranger into my home and financially support them. The whole world has gone to absolute shit. Our country has gone to shit our poor NHS, schools, housing are overcrowded and I dread for the future of our own children. This country is in a financial crisis and whilst I would love to help and support others and really feel for them I think we also have to face up to the fact that we can't help everyone. It's shit, it's really is.

I’m not sure that allowing men of fighting age from an enemy country to flock in is a good idea, especially given said enemy country uses the pretext of “ethnic Russian populations” in its neighbouring countries to annex/invade them.

Did I say we shouldn't offer a solution?
No! I just don't think yours is a good one.

It's easy to spend other people's money, OP.
There needs to be a different kind of solution, encouraging dissent in Russia. Topple Putin.

So if you don’t want to have someone in your home what’s your next-best solution? Will you offer a tent in your garden, perhaps, or pay for a few to stay in an Air BnB?

Russia is the enemy

The enemies are the politicians, the military and much of the state machine rather than the great mass of the people, though some will certainly sympathise

So the issue would be sorting out who's who before allowing them in, and does anyone seriously believe that's likely to happen?

I have a Russian friend living in the U.K. she is so pro the war but I know full well if anyone in her family got affected they'd be running over here. So no. Russia are the enemy. Not all Russians but I can't tell which ones so I won't be supporting any.
This country has enough problems already internally with race relations. I wouldn't want to add to that problem.

Are you sure you’re not a Martha’s Vineyard resident? With every post, it sounds more and more like it.

Absolutely not!

Is your screen not loading properly?
I have already said, a couple of time, hotels and hostels. Maybe you missed that.

I have nothing against Russian people, they are people just like us. I do, however, feel a bit like those who say we can't even help our own right now, let alone anyone else. Can we just take a small number of the scientists, doctors, nurses, perhaps? That could be helpful to us and manageable.

So you are offering to pay for hostels and hotels? I did miss that, sorry, I had thought that you were suggesting doing absolutely fuck-all yourself and just wanting someone else to organise and fund this.

How many people are you going to be paying for?

Hotels and hostels? Who’s paying for this shit?
Will it be a hotel in your town, next to your house? We’re supporting Ukraine and Ukrainians not Russians.

The contrast between the Iranian women protesting and the Russian men fleeing is quite stark I think.

I would rather they followed the outstanding example of barvery shown by the Iranian women and started a revolution against Putin etc.

Oh, and where are these spare hotels and hostels? Presumably you’ve actually done your research, and know where there is capacity, could you share that on here?

I’d hate for it to look like you were just virtue signalling and doing absolutely nothing to make a difference.

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