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Reported for child neglect

224 replies

nomorefruitjuiceforme · 24/09/2022 12:48

What would you do? How would you feel?

Husband reported me for neglecting our children. He doesn't agree with my parenting, he is a lot stricter than I am. He would have super strict routines when it suits him, everything always needs to be how he likes it.

Backstory: our two children are both autistic. Have major (sensory?/demand?) issues with bathing and most forms of self care. Major meltdowns when forced to do things. Major struggles to do what is needed. Also impossible to actually make them to do these things and if I could force them, it would be abuse the way I'd have to go about it.
So... they aren't washed as much as I'd ideally like. They are both healthy, never ill. Don't look dirty, except for dirty fingernails every now and then.

Explained the situation to social services and they were happy I am doing all I can and I am looking after them well.

Husband understandably not happy with outcome, but must realise there isn't anything he can do as he hasn't changed anything he does. He never helps out and he is always really negative about everything I do and what the children do and what they look like.
Him being strict with the children doesn't get him anywhere as they aren't deliberately not listening to him, they can't cope with what he is asking of them.

I am not entirely sure what he hoped reporting me would do. I guess he hoped it would scare me into behaving like a 'proper' wife? That I would suddenly be able to create perfect children?
My children are perfect the way they are btw, they just have struggles that fit their disabilities (being autistic is classed a disability). They do need help with that and that is what I spend most of my days doing.

Husband has always blamed me for not being strict enough and according to him that is why they are they way they are. Children have a demand avoidant (PDA) profile, so putting more pressure on them is only counterproductive. Yet that is always what he does.

He keeps telling me I need to have strict routines, doesn't believe that that isn't the right thing for all autistic people. Husband himself is autistic and says he thrives on routines. Which he doesn't, as he doesn't actually have a lot of routine in his life. But because he does as he pleases most of the time, it is all on his terms, so he can cope with the way things are for him.

I feel our marriage can never really come back from this lack of trust. How can you love a woman who you think is totally rubbish at what she has dedicated her life to? I am a stay at home mum, which was a mutual decision.

He is now acting like all is well and trying to be affectionate again, but it all feels fake.

AIBU in thinking we can't overcome this?

OP posts:
Softplayhooray · 24/09/2022 13:45

Quincythequince · 24/09/2022 12:51

Your own husband, who lives with you and your children, reported your to social services?

I literally cannot get over this. I was agog reading the last part when I realised you were still together. This is a marriage ending move in my eyes. First he is parenting terribly. Second, he is showing no respect for you and then put your access to the children at actual risk. That is unforgivable. Third he has an insane view of how a person acts in a marriage. This is bizarre .

Sorry OP that you are facing such an awful situation. You and your kids do not deserve this. It is actually abusive conduct on his part.

J0y · 24/09/2022 13:46

I'd say he has autism. Routines have to strict, decided by him. He sees you doing things your way as wrong and neglect.
But that's being kind. More likely he's a massively controlling dickhead. Divorce lawyer monday to quote a pp.

Pipsquiggle · 24/09/2022 13:46

Bloody hell!

Does he acknowledge that by reporting you to SS he has behaved very abnormally?

He sounds like a nightmare and totally unsupportive, however, is that one of his traits? Can he empathise?

You keep doing what you're doing. Sounds like you're doing a great job

amylou8 · 24/09/2022 13:46

Wow, can't believe I've just read that! What is he doing to help you with your so called neglected children. Sitting on his perch calling you a crap parent by the sounds of it. I parented my demand avoidant autistic son completely differently to my two NT kids, and to the on looker some of my pick your battles approaches may have looked neglectful. But he's not an on looker, he's their parent and your husband. I couldn't come back from that.

DeadButDelicious · 24/09/2022 13:46

I don't think there is any coming back from this OP. I have heard of some dick moves pulled by husbands//partners on here but this one really takes the biscuit. Leave OP.

billy1966 · 24/09/2022 13:49

You poor woman.

Please contact Women's aid.

He is a bully and emotionally abusive.

Ask for support from your GP.

You are in a very vulnerable position as a carer for two children and being abused by your husband.

Itsallchange · 24/09/2022 13:50

Wow! When I started reading this I thought you had separated hence the reason for hun reporting you, but he lives in the house with the children he’s reported you as neglecting!!! Neglect has nothing to do with being strict or not…. You are trying to get your children to understand about personal hygiene and although it may not be an ideal situation, I assume they have clean clothes, hair cuts etc. a parent who neglects does not care about them. Are school supporting you with trying to educate about self care?
back to the waste of space dad! I could never come back from that, what did he expect to achieve….that social services would encourage you to physically bathe your children with force! I think by being a single parent would remove the stress, the walking on egg shells and take the pressure off and allow you and your children to have one direction and one parenting style!

Nat6999 · 24/09/2022 13:50

I would be divorcing him fast, that is a line that shouldn't be crossed. I wouldn't be able to forgive or forget, that is abuse because you wouldn't agree with his opinion so he reported you & also he doesn't understand the disabilities your dc have, it isn't being naughty it is who they are. I would either leave him or kick him out & if or when things went through the family courts I would put a strong case that he is being abusive to your dc because he refuses to accept the way their disabilities affect them.

HappyHamsters · 24/09/2022 13:51

He never helps out
He is always negative towards you
He is always negative towards the children
He is strict and controlling
He reported his wife to ss

Does he have any good points worth staying with him for

Cakeandcardio · 24/09/2022 13:52

I'm sorry for your experience. I think all kids have dirty fingernails at some point? I certainly did and I had a bath every night. I too thought this was a ex, trying to get at you because he didn't agree. I'm not sure how you can be affectionate again. He's left you alone and then tried to get you into trouble. It's not fair. Was he trying to have the children removed?

Magenta82 · 24/09/2022 13:53

What does he bring to the relationship? He does nothing for the kids and criticises and undermines you to the extent that he reported you to social services! I don't know how you can bear to be in the same room as him, let alone still live with him!

purpleme12 · 24/09/2022 13:53

@nomorefruitjuiceforme
Another one who's shocked
I have experienced people maliciously reporting to SS but never someone who lives with you
You come across as so calm still in your posts as well.
When I had my first malicious report it really shook me up
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I still worry about it now when my child kicks off.
Did he say he was reporting you or did you only know when they rang you?

womaninatightspot · 24/09/2022 13:54

This is crazy to me. Not sure I’d be able to stay with him.

one of mines is wash avoidant. I took out a membership at council pool we go four times a week and I can supervise hairwashing at the end.

SRS29 · 24/09/2022 13:56

OP sounds like your life would be infinitely calmer and more suitable for your children with him living outside the home...good luck x

IncessantNameChanger · 24/09/2022 13:56

He isn't supporting you. He is actively seeking to make you fail.

Why are you with him?

My son has ASD diagnosed at 3. Part of coping is surviving the week. You pick your hills to die on.

Eating and education- a hill to die on

Daily baths - not a hill to die on

You can't go die on every hill that crops up can you?

Motherofalittledragon · 24/09/2022 13:56

Crikey I wouldn't be staying with him, I'd be divorcing him and leaving asap! What a horrible thing for him to do.

comfortablyfrumpy · 24/09/2022 13:57

I assumed at first that he was your ex or that you'd separated. It was bad enough for those scenarios but I just can't get my head around him doing this when you're married and in the same house. It's appalling.

As others have said, you and your children deserve better. I know LTB gets thrown around on MN a lot, but in this case I'd say absolutely LTB.

Soontobe60 · 24/09/2022 13:57

Can I point out to those who can’t believe that the husband still lives with the OP that she has said he is autistic. It makes perfect sense to me that someone who’s autistic may well follow the obvious line of enquiry if they think a child is being neglected and phone SS. He may not be able to disassociate his wife’s behaviour towards the children, that he sees as neglectful, from that of an unknown mother and her child. He may see that neglect = phone call to SS.
I once taught twin boys one of whom had ASD, had been diagnosed when he was 2. He loved his brother enormously, but was always telling people what his brother may have said about them. He didn't want to get his brothers into trouble, but he knew that you don't say unkind things about other people. In his head, he was being totally reasonable.

dampgreg · 24/09/2022 14:01

Hi OP,

I have a PDA child, an autistic child and my other has ADHD. You know that placing demands on a PDA child is the wrong thing to do and you're parenting accordingly. SS have no concerns, and that's great.

I do think you have a big problem with DH though. Parenting a child with PDA is really difficult and things that work for NT children just don't work. You and your DH need to be a team, unless he's absolutely onboard and assisting you I honestly don't see how it can work out. Any stress in the house is likely to make your PDAer worse. I'd honestly be leaving my DH in this situation, your child needs you to do your best for them

TrainedByCats · 24/09/2022 14:01

[Flowers] I’m so sorry nomorefruitjuiceforme you have an controlling abusive husband and he is being an abusive father by trying to impose very strict routines on autistic children whilst making no attempt to understand current thinking on how to support people with autism. I’m horrified that he could do such a thing to try and prove a point without considering the possible ramifications for you and your children.

Also why is he not doing bathtime if he is so convinced he is right?

That he is also autistic may partially explain why he has behaved as he has but it does not diminish the fact that he is controlling and abusive.

And no I could never come back from that in a marriage.

Hopeandlove · 24/09/2022 14:03

I could not continue in the marriage better to be a single parent here. Split it 50:50 and force him to step up

Bus5 · 24/09/2022 14:03

Pounce on him when he isn't expecting it and shove a toothbrush in his mouth or up his arse if he thinks it's so acceptable to manhandle people into doing something against their will.

What a horrible person he is to do something like that to his own wife and children. It's great that you got an understanding social worker who likely saw it for what it was, otherwise the outcome could have been devastating for your children.

I have an autistic child so I understand the battle with trying to get them calmly into the bath / to brush their teeth / whatever else. How can he live under the same roof and yet be so oblivious.

forrestgreen · 24/09/2022 14:05

I'm in denial, not that it's not true, but that such men walk among us!

I think with the approach of doing what you can will win or his approach.

But you can have my first LTB

Ancfib · 24/09/2022 14:05

It's difficult that you are a SAHM, but I would still suggest you run for the hills. You have more patience than me! I would of gone mad, how could he betray you like that? That could of gone so badly, he could of got his children taken away. I am in shock. You seem like a very level headed person who does her best with children that have additional needs. My kids shower nightly and they still manage to look a mess with dirty nails by the end of the day!

This is not something you should come back from. A total betrayal.

kittensinthekitchen · 24/09/2022 14:05

What was the outcome with social services? Did they visit and see/speak to the children?

What exactly is it your husband objects to? How often are the children washing and brushing their teeth?

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