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For wanting to do a Ouija board for a laugh?

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EbbyEbs · 24/09/2022 08:25

Next year DH and I are staying in a castle thought to be the most haunted in Britain. DH says he doesn’t believe in stuff like that, I’m on the fence really but more towards not believing. I think the most likely scenario if ghosts ARE real is that they’re historical residue and not intelligent entities. But even that is a stretch.

So, I’d like to do a ouija board when we’re there for a laugh. The castle is in the middle of nowhere so there isn’t much else to do on an evening other than drink (which I don’t do) and watch Netflix!

DH is point blank refusing saying he isn’t messing about with stuff like that. But he’s a non believer??! So what’s the harm?

If he doesn’t believe in it, am I being unreasonable to ask him to do it?

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Banana2079 · 24/09/2022 10:33

Thankyou ! X

Bestcatmum · 24/09/2022 10:34

Good luck with whatever demon comes through. Anything can manifest through that good or bad. Some just come through to mess with your life because they are angry. Mess up your marriage cause chaos and confusion. Ouija was created as a game but it isn't.

QueSyrahSyrah · 24/09/2022 10:35

A Ouija board is just a parlour game...

Oh please, you know what I meant. It's not fucking Backgammon is it?

Lockheart · 24/09/2022 10:35

ReneBumsWombats · 24/09/2022 10:30

It shouldn't surprise anyone that a vulnerable person with dark and self-destructive thoughts would cause a planchette to spell out awful things and be subsequently influenced by the experience to engineer tragic events.

It does mean that vulnerable, suggestible people shouldn't play with Ouija boards. It doesn't mean that their tragedies were caused by evil spirits channelled through the board.

How come you always channel evil spirits who speak your language? Are the Chinese and Spanish ones so polite that they don't wish to confuse you?

It's also odd how all the spirits are literate and speak modern English, despite a number of them claimed to be from several hundred years ago.

ReneBumsWombats · 24/09/2022 10:36

QueSyrahSyrah · 24/09/2022 10:35

A Ouija board is just a parlour game...

Oh please, you know what I meant. It's not fucking Backgammon is it?

It's licensed to Hasbro and the players control the movement, so it's close enough. Originally it wasn't considered occult. Just a bit of fun. Developed from table tipping.

HailAdrian · 24/09/2022 10:37

How come you always channel evil spirits who speak your language? Are the Chinese and Spanish ones so polite that they don't wish to confuse you?

But you've clearly got that from films or something? If 'evil' entities exist and you've never encountered one, I guess you have no idea what it's like?

How come people who believe in the supernatural are scoffed at yet it's considered reasonable to believe in god?

Banana2079 · 24/09/2022 10:38

So my clothes Airer picking itself Up 2 foot from the floor and throwing itself across my living room in front of me and my terrified seven-year-old daughter isn’t enough evidence according to you? Sorry I didn’t get my phone out and film it - was too busy screaming crying and running out my flat with a traumatised 6 year old who still has nightmares about it

ReneBumsWombats · 24/09/2022 10:38

Lockheart · 24/09/2022 10:35

It's also odd how all the spirits are literate and speak modern English, despite a number of them claimed to be from several hundred years ago.

Aren't they also kind of crap? What sort of ancient, powerful force of evil can cause suicides and car accidents, but only if you use a message board licensed to Hasbro? What were they doing for the first zillion years of their existence?

DeeCeeCherry · 24/09/2022 10:40

Respect your husband's view and feelings. You dont command him. If you do go ahead and he doesnt then hopefully you wont be an absolute bore that keeps banging on about it to upset him

ReneBumsWombats · 24/09/2022 10:41

HailAdrian · 24/09/2022 10:37

How come you always channel evil spirits who speak your language? Are the Chinese and Spanish ones so polite that they don't wish to confuse you?

But you've clearly got that from films or something? If 'evil' entities exist and you've never encountered one, I guess you have no idea what it's like?

How come people who believe in the supernatural are scoffed at yet it's considered reasonable to believe in god?

I've got it from all the people talking about their terrible Ouija experiences. Presumably the planchette spelled out something they could understand.

Why would we not scoff at people insisting it's evil spirits when it's been proven to be ideomotor movement?

ReneBumsWombats · 24/09/2022 10:43

Banana2079 · 24/09/2022 10:38

So my clothes Airer picking itself Up 2 foot from the floor and throwing itself across my living room in front of me and my terrified seven-year-old daughter isn’t enough evidence according to you? Sorry I didn’t get my phone out and film it - was too busy screaming crying and running out my flat with a traumatised 6 year old who still has nightmares about it

No, an unsubstantiated post from Banana2079 on Mumsnet about flying airers isn't enough evidence for me, sorry. Even if it did have anything to do with ideomotor movement.

LadybirdsAreNeverHappy · 24/09/2022 10:44

I know people who have had a bad experience playing with ouija boards and it has nothing to do with anything supernatural.
One of my teenage friends at school got so scared she wet herself and never, ever lived it down. A group of my sisters friends insisted on playing it one hallowe’en, one of them was reluctant but gave in to pressure and ended up getting extremely upset. In their excitement they forgot his mum had died less than a year before.
I don’t believe in anything supernatural but I still don’t think it’s a good idea to mess around with them.

Lockheart · 24/09/2022 10:45

Banana2079 · 24/09/2022 10:38

So my clothes Airer picking itself Up 2 foot from the floor and throwing itself across my living room in front of me and my terrified seven-year-old daughter isn’t enough evidence according to you? Sorry I didn’t get my phone out and film it - was too busy screaming crying and running out my flat with a traumatised 6 year old who still has nightmares about it

So traumatising your child apparently got one year younger in the process.

QueSyrahSyrah · 24/09/2022 10:47

@ReneBumsWombats I'm aware of that thanks, but still it's not often whipped out after Christmas Dinner is it? 'Come on kids, come on Granny, let's see what dear old departed Grandpa's been up to over Christmas'

It's a 'game' that depending on your view point is either absolutely pointless rubbish, or a risk of unleashing evil. So why would either side of the coin bother 'playing'?

My original post was simply suggesting to the OP that there's options for a hotel stay other than Ouija or Netflix!

Banana2079 · 24/09/2022 10:47

Do you honestly think I was going to start recording when my furniture was been launched through the air with a terrified six-year-old watching ? we both run out of the house crying don’t even know where the phone was at that point? What a silly comment.
I was thinking of getting CCTV in the house but can’t afford it at the moment . Since I had the priest round (twice ) everything stopped.

Do you record everything that you see that’s out of the ordinary? I’m not sure how I can record being bitten at night and waking up with bite marks over my body..
In regards to the furniture and on one occcasion a toy being ripped to shreds it was overnight Hence why I want to get CCTV. If you don’t believe me you don’t have to but please don’t mock me I’m not stupid I work in a court of law and I know what Hallucinations and mental health problems are -to which I have neither 🙄

Giggorata · 24/09/2022 10:47

The ideomotor response does not explain some of the phenomena associated with Ouija boards which I have witnessed, including the glass moving on its own, a book it referred to jumping out of the bookcase, and more.

I do not believe that those who do it are in contact with dead loved ones, however. It could be other entities, our own unconscious minds or whatever, but opening yourself up to whatever it is seems rarely to be positive and often downright harmful, mentally or in terms of continuing phenomena.

Having said that, Luckingfovely has nailed it, in my view:

“Husband OP: I'm going away with my wife next year, and I want to do something for a laugh, that's she's really uncomfortable with. AIBU to pressure her into doing it just because I want to and don't understand why she doesn't?”

EbbyEbs · 24/09/2022 10:48

ReneBumsWombats · 24/09/2022 09:44

Monopoly is way more dangerous. You might get into a fight if someone gets Mayfair and Park Lane. I get real mean if I can't be the dog.

Me too!! I need to be the dog and I have to own all the purple ones 😂 I’ve never played it long enough to get hotels though

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Lockheart · 24/09/2022 10:49

Banana2079 · 24/09/2022 10:47

Do you honestly think I was going to start recording when my furniture was been launched through the air with a terrified six-year-old watching ? we both run out of the house crying don’t even know where the phone was at that point? What a silly comment.
I was thinking of getting CCTV in the house but can’t afford it at the moment . Since I had the priest round (twice ) everything stopped.

Do you record everything that you see that’s out of the ordinary? I’m not sure how I can record being bitten at night and waking up with bite marks over my body..
In regards to the furniture and on one occcasion a toy being ripped to shreds it was overnight Hence why I want to get CCTV. If you don’t believe me you don’t have to but please don’t mock me I’m not stupid I work in a court of law and I know what Hallucinations and mental health problems are -to which I have neither 🙄

Well you seem very confused whether your child is six or seven, that's all I'm saying...

ReneBumsWombats · 24/09/2022 10:50

QueSyrahSyrah · 24/09/2022 10:47

@ReneBumsWombats I'm aware of that thanks, but still it's not often whipped out after Christmas Dinner is it? 'Come on kids, come on Granny, let's see what dear old departed Grandpa's been up to over Christmas'

It's a 'game' that depending on your view point is either absolutely pointless rubbish, or a risk of unleashing evil. So why would either side of the coin bother 'playing'?

My original post was simply suggesting to the OP that there's options for a hotel stay other than Ouija or Netflix!

If you're saying playing it is pointless at best, I absolutely agree. And no, a vulnerable person shouldn't play it for the same reason a small child shouldn't watch Halloween.

The spooky "ooh, my aunt's cousin's dog's trainer's daughter did one at school and SHE DIED" stuff is what makes people scared of it. But it is indeed a licensed board game like backgammon, and in its initial years, it was considered to be just as scary. It wasn't thought of as occult. It was just a funny "ooh, let's see how it moves" game.

EbbyEbs · 24/09/2022 10:51

Psychogeography · 24/09/2022 09:43

Yet you seem pretty bored by the prospect.

Tell your DH to bring a Monopoly, which is likely to be far more chilling than an ouija board, at least for whoever lands on Mayfair with hotels.

Oh no I’m never bored at Chillingham! I like to go off exploring the grounds but DH likes to stay in once it gets dark 🙄 I went off exploring parts of the castle on my own last time - sat in the dungeon for 5 minutes at midnight in the pitch black darkness hoping to experience something (as apparently nobody has managed longer than 3 minutes). Nothing happened

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MeInCoventry · 24/09/2022 10:52

EbbyEbs · 24/09/2022 08:25

Next year DH and I are staying in a castle thought to be the most haunted in Britain. DH says he doesn’t believe in stuff like that, I’m on the fence really but more towards not believing. I think the most likely scenario if ghosts ARE real is that they’re historical residue and not intelligent entities. But even that is a stretch.

So, I’d like to do a ouija board when we’re there for a laugh. The castle is in the middle of nowhere so there isn’t much else to do on an evening other than drink (which I don’t do) and watch Netflix!

DH is point blank refusing saying he isn’t messing about with stuff like that. But he’s a non believer??! So what’s the harm?

If he doesn’t believe in it, am I being unreasonable to ask him to do it?

Unless you're 13 years old, the Ouija board boring as hell because as soon as you realise the other person is pushing it.

Does the name of the castle start with a "C"? If so, I did an overnight vigil there a few years back. It was completely fake and the hosts were ridiculous. They made me sit in a dark room on my own and then come back to the group and report... I reported that it was very peaceful and I almost fell asleep. I did get angry after one of them make a young woman cry saying her dead grandmother was standing behind her. The castle was much more interesting during the daytime when I could read the owner's eccentric comments on all the exhibits.

TheHoover · 24/09/2022 10:53

I’m same as your husband. Not a believer in the supernatural but it would freak the fuck out of me and play games in my head at night.

IncompleteSenten · 24/09/2022 10:53

That's a very long way to say no, I have no proof at all.

You should have contacted scientists before a priest. There are groups desperate to prove this shit is real. Seeing your furniture flying across the room would have changed the world.

ReneBumsWombats · 24/09/2022 10:55

Banana2079 · 24/09/2022 10:47

Do you honestly think I was going to start recording when my furniture was been launched through the air with a terrified six-year-old watching ? we both run out of the house crying don’t even know where the phone was at that point? What a silly comment.
I was thinking of getting CCTV in the house but can’t afford it at the moment . Since I had the priest round (twice ) everything stopped.

Do you record everything that you see that’s out of the ordinary? I’m not sure how I can record being bitten at night and waking up with bite marks over my body..
In regards to the furniture and on one occcasion a toy being ripped to shreds it was overnight Hence why I want to get CCTV. If you don’t believe me you don’t have to but please don’t mock me I’m not stupid I work in a court of law and I know what Hallucinations and mental health problems are -to which I have neither 🙄

No, but I honestly think that if furniture could fly across the room unaided, it would have happened under lab conditions by now.

Do you not think that scientists would actually bloody love it if they could get clear proof of this happening? Imagine being the one who proved, in lab conditions, that furniture flies across the room of its own accord. You'd go down in history. The phenomenon would be named after you. You'd be known as the parent of a whole new branch of physics and responsible for the most massive leap in human understanding since the advent of space travel.

And yet...