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For wanting to do a Ouija board for a laugh?

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EbbyEbs · 24/09/2022 08:25

Next year DH and I are staying in a castle thought to be the most haunted in Britain. DH says he doesn’t believe in stuff like that, I’m on the fence really but more towards not believing. I think the most likely scenario if ghosts ARE real is that they’re historical residue and not intelligent entities. But even that is a stretch.

So, I’d like to do a ouija board when we’re there for a laugh. The castle is in the middle of nowhere so there isn’t much else to do on an evening other than drink (which I don’t do) and watch Netflix!

DH is point blank refusing saying he isn’t messing about with stuff like that. But he’s a non believer??! So what’s the harm?

If he doesn’t believe in it, am I being unreasonable to ask him to do it?

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ReneBumsWombats · 26/09/2022 09:28

Pinktoothbrushesarefab · 26/09/2022 09:15

@ReneBumsWombats

If you don't want believe a word I say, that's your prerogative.

In any event the OP is BVU to try and force her DH to do something that gives him concern.

If you don't want believe a word I say, that's your prerogative

I'm interested that you think I "want" to disbelieve bollocks.

But as well as my prerogative, I think it's also my duty to reassure frightened and suggestible people that they don't need to be scared of this because it's been proven, over and over, to be caused by ideomotor movement. Blindfold the players and turn the board upside down and see what happens.

But I do certainly agree that people shouldn't be pressured into playing it because their fear will cause them to spell out all sorts of crap and traumatise themselves. For some people it's too late and to them, I repeat: this silly Hasbro board game is not real, it's not occult, evil spirits aren't coming to get you and you do not have to be frightened or guilty.

Pinktoothbrushesarefab · 26/09/2022 09:34

@ReneBumsWombats

But I do certainly agree that people shouldn't be pressured into playing it because their fear will cause them to spell out all sorts of crap and traumatise themselves.

At least we agree on that. 🙂

itsaich · 26/09/2022 09:41

Here's the thing though; either it's complete bullshit in which case you're just moving a glass around a board for absolutely no reason which is a bizarre thing to find fun.

Or it's not all bullshit in which case you're messing with demonic entities which is a bizarre thing to do to yourself if that goes wrong.

In both cases it's absolutely pointless. Get a lovely bottle of wine and chill instead.

itsaich · 26/09/2022 09:43

EbbyEbs · 24/09/2022 08:42

Ouija IS a board game

What's the objective of the game?

ReneBumsWombats · 26/09/2022 09:47

Pinktoothbrushesarefab · 26/09/2022 09:34

@ReneBumsWombats

But I do certainly agree that people shouldn't be pressured into playing it because their fear will cause them to spell out all sorts of crap and traumatise themselves.

At least we agree on that. 🙂

I'm not sure you understood the comment, but glad you agree with it, because it's true.

MrsSkylerWhite · 26/09/2022 09:49

Why would you try to force someone you love to do something they really don’t want to?

CapMarvel · 26/09/2022 10:00

Pinktoothbrushesarefab · 26/09/2022 08:56

@Miffee
How does a ouija board make this more likely?

Because you are giving evil an opening and inviting it into your life.

The Ouija board is far from harmless, as it is a form of divination (seeking information from supernatural sources). The fact of the matter is, the Ouija board really does work, and the only “spirits” that will be contacted through it are evil ones.
It’s true that many people view the Ouija board as harmless. They often claim, “Oh, I don’t believe in it,” or something to this effect. However, a disbelief in something does not necessarily mean that something isn’t real. The Ouija board has an objective reality that exists apart from a person’s perception of it. In other words, it’s real even if you don’t believe in it.

It's a bit of mass produced cardboard, and we know how it works which has fuck all to do with ghosts.

Pinktoothbrushesarefab · 26/09/2022 10:07

@CapMarvel It's a bit of mass produced cardboard,

agreed

and we know how it works

do we, really?

which has fuck all to do with ghosts.

You may think so.

Miffee · 26/09/2022 10:11

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Miffee · 26/09/2022 10:12

Pinktoothbrushesarefab · 26/09/2022 10:07

@CapMarvel It's a bit of mass produced cardboard,

agreed

and we know how it works

do we, really?

which has fuck all to do with ghosts.

You may think so.

They know so. In the same way it has nothing to do with dragons or unicorns.

ReneBumsWombats · 26/09/2022 10:18

Pinktoothbrushesarefab · 26/09/2022 10:07

@CapMarvel It's a bit of mass produced cardboard,

agreed

and we know how it works

do we, really?

which has fuck all to do with ghosts.

You may think so.

Yes, we know exactly how it works. It's been proven, over and over. Saying "do we?" and "you think so" is not a counter the zillions of times it's been proven under controlled conditions. It just makes you look even more unable to make a case.

It's getting even more interesting that you framed belief in this earlier as something people "want" to do or not.

Try the necklace thing I mentioned earlier.

Quite apart from everything else, an evil spirit that is polite enough to wait for an invitation via your Hasbro board is probably not something to be very scared of. Fear and counter the actual evil embodied in humans instead. That's where true hell resides.

mysweetsong · 26/09/2022 11:44

Agree with @Dotcheck
Why insist on doing stuff that OP doesn't enjoy just for the fun of it esp if he's had a bad experience in the past?
Surely, there'd be other stuff that both of you enjoy that can be done on a different holiday.
Not sure the interest in all these dark stuff anyways?!
There's a lot other things to worry in life than adding some other weird/scary stuff to the list IMHO🤔

Heresme33 · 26/09/2022 11:57

Just don't

Rosehugger · 26/09/2022 11:57

I wouldn't do it if DH isn't keen. The thing is, he wouldn't find it a laugh and might be traumatised by the experience. Not that I'm suggesting anything "woo" would happen, but it could still be very upsetting. Stuff like that is only fun if everyone is in on the laughs.

Rosehugger · 26/09/2022 11:59

DH and I went on a ghost walk one time at an old house which ended up being absolutely hilarious and not scary apart from a couple of jump scares. That's the level of scared you want to aim for, not someone being very upset by it. DD1 was old enough to go at the time but we knew that she would have found it upsetting as she'd have not been able to tell what was made up so we didn't take her.

Miffee · 26/09/2022 12:03

ReneBumsWombats · 26/09/2022 10:18

Yes, we know exactly how it works. It's been proven, over and over. Saying "do we?" and "you think so" is not a counter the zillions of times it's been proven under controlled conditions. It just makes you look even more unable to make a case.

It's getting even more interesting that you framed belief in this earlier as something people "want" to do or not.

Try the necklace thing I mentioned earlier.

Quite apart from everything else, an evil spirit that is polite enough to wait for an invitation via your Hasbro board is probably not something to be very scared of. Fear and counter the actual evil embodied in humans instead. That's where true hell resides.

It's really interesting to me that ouija boards have been subject to so much research.

How is it that given all the reputable research there has been no evidence of anything bad happening? Cover up bu the scientific community?

Rosehugger · 26/09/2022 12:12

Lots of people have evidence of something bad happening. A family friend's daughter was traumatised and had to have counselling for a long time. That's something bad happening. It's just not worth it.

Miffee · 26/09/2022 12:14

Rosehugger · 26/09/2022 12:12

Lots of people have evidence of something bad happening. A family friend's daughter was traumatised and had to have counselling for a long time. That's something bad happening. It's just not worth it.

Nobody has any evidence. None.

IncompleteSenten · 26/09/2022 12:23

CurseOfBigness · 25/09/2022 23:02

@ReneBumsWombatsHow come you always channel evil spirits who speak your language? Are the Chinese and Spanish ones so polite that they don't wish to confuse you?

It’s not just the language. It’s how that language is communicating in writing.

In the context of a Ouija Board, if they’re connecting with very old spirits then how come they’re so literate too?

I thought literacy was rarer in the past?

Maybe that film beetlejuice got it right and you have to spend a couple of hundred years working after your death.
That's why the ghosts out enjoying themselves are all centuries old.
The newly departed are employed as translators.

Mary - verily, thy end ith nigh..

Nigel - ok, erm, right. Give me the glass - you're dead, mutherfuckers.

IncompleteSenten · 26/09/2022 12:37

MeInCoventry · 25/09/2022 23:46

I just had a great idea (if I do say so…) a Facebook “Candyman” Challenge!

Monies raised could be donated to a women's shelter.

Who's in?!

Me.
We could make it a triple.
Say 5 candymans, three bloody Marys and finish off by printing out a ouija board and asking how much the afterlife translators get paid.

ReneBumsWombats · 26/09/2022 12:41

Rosehugger · 26/09/2022 12:12

Lots of people have evidence of something bad happening. A family friend's daughter was traumatised and had to have counselling for a long time. That's something bad happening. It's just not worth it.

What's the evidence that her psychological damage was caused by evil forces coming out of the board?

Bestcatmum · 26/09/2022 12:42

The spirit world is never real until it happens to you.

Lampzade · 26/09/2022 12:46

When I was at secondary school one of the form classes used an ouija board during wet lunch.
They all came out looking utterly petrified and counsellors had to be called in.
Before this incident I was very sceptical about the whole ouija board being devilish.
However, that incident at school scared the life out of me and as a result I do not have any desire to use one

ReneBumsWombats · 26/09/2022 12:49

Bestcatmum · 26/09/2022 12:42

The spirit world is never real until it happens to you.

I suppose that's one way of putting it.

SusanPerbCallMeSue · 26/09/2022 12:58

I played ouija board at the church youth club I went to (never been religious, just went because my friend went and knew the adults who ran it, who didn't know what we were up to)

It was quite boring, nothing happened.

Although, my brother did sadly commit suicide 10 years later. So I guess I could blame that if looking for reasons. It's not one I've thought of before.

Maybe I should get a ouija board out and ask him (black humour!)