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For wanting to do a Ouija board for a laugh?

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EbbyEbs · 24/09/2022 08:25

Next year DH and I are staying in a castle thought to be the most haunted in Britain. DH says he doesn’t believe in stuff like that, I’m on the fence really but more towards not believing. I think the most likely scenario if ghosts ARE real is that they’re historical residue and not intelligent entities. But even that is a stretch.

So, I’d like to do a ouija board when we’re there for a laugh. The castle is in the middle of nowhere so there isn’t much else to do on an evening other than drink (which I don’t do) and watch Netflix!

DH is point blank refusing saying he isn’t messing about with stuff like that. But he’s a non believer??! So what’s the harm?

If he doesn’t believe in it, am I being unreasonable to ask him to do it?

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Wafty · 25/09/2022 20:35

Hasbro might have patented the ouija board game but I think it's only been a board game in recent years.
Ouija boards have been around since the late 1800s. I'm in my late sixties and remember messing around with them as a teenager fifty odd years ago - usually homemade ones. We used to make them with cardboard and paper as I recall and use a glass from the kitchen. Sometimes the glass did move round the letters, seemingly by itself, might have been the ideomotor effect but didn't appear to be. Nothing bad happened although I do recall a kitchen window pane cracking one night when someone asked the ouija board a question.

ReneBumsWombats · 25/09/2022 20:44

might have been the ideomotor effect but didn't appear to be.

The very nature of the ideomotor effect is that it doesn't appear to be. Try the necklace thing I mentioned earlier.

00100001 · 25/09/2022 21:58

Miffee · 25/09/2022 16:41

Me my DH and 8 of our friends did one.

6 months later we had all won the Euromillions Jackpot. Not not as a syndicate but individually.

Maybe your mates one was made of polonium?

I did one just the other week, then the Queen died 2 days later.
Coincidence? I'd say not!

Miffee · 25/09/2022 22:00

What is a ouija board? I mean what are the component parts that make it dangerous? The hysterical replies warning against using them got me thinking. What is the defining feature?

Surely if I put a glass on anything with printed letters it is effectively a ouija board.

00100001 · 25/09/2022 22:04

Miffee · 25/09/2022 22:00

What is a ouija board? I mean what are the component parts that make it dangerous? The hysterical replies warning against using them got me thinking. What is the defining feature?

Surely if I put a glass on anything with printed letters it is effectively a ouija board.

It's the summoning of spirits... You have no idea what is coming to you.

Might be Mavis from a few doors down, who died a few weeks ago who wants to talk about her cat and how lovely she thinks it is you're feeding little Norris.

Might be John, who will spend his after life with throwing peanuts at you all night.

Might be Sam, who wants to scare you by rattling furniture.

Psychopomps · 25/09/2022 22:06

Miffee · 25/09/2022 22:00

What is a ouija board? I mean what are the component parts that make it dangerous? The hysterical replies warning against using them got me thinking. What is the defining feature?

Surely if I put a glass on anything with printed letters it is effectively a ouija board.

It’ll be the upturned glass. The demon drink inciting appearances by Beelzebub and the like… (Which, given the preponderance of Frightening Messages received by gangs of drunk teenagers in the early hours, mightn’t be so far off…)

Miffee · 25/09/2022 22:08

00100001 · 25/09/2022 22:04

It's the summoning of spirits... You have no idea what is coming to you.

Might be Mavis from a few doors down, who died a few weeks ago who wants to talk about her cat and how lovely she thinks it is you're feeding little Norris.

Might be John, who will spend his after life with throwing peanuts at you all night.

Might be Sam, who wants to scare you by rattling furniture.

Why are they so keen on ouija boards I wonder?

Surely the ouija board factories (a quick search on eBay and Google shows there must be fucking dozens) and Amazon warehouses must be full of ghosts rattling about and rocking chairs.

00100001 · 25/09/2022 22:18

Miffee · 25/09/2022 22:08

Why are they so keen on ouija boards I wonder?

Surely the ouija board factories (a quick search on eBay and Google shows there must be fucking dozens) and Amazon warehouses must be full of ghosts rattling about and rocking chairs.

It's because it's one of the optional clubs in the afterlife. And the Ouija Board Spirit Team gives out the best doughnuts at the onboarding Afterlife Activities Fair

The Pentagram Club only give out 5 sided treats, which kinda limits it to homemade biscuits, they cut out by hand. Problem is, they don't cook very well as they only really have candles to heat their oven... So take up isn't as high.

CurseOfBigness · 25/09/2022 23:02

@ReneBumsWombatsHow come you always channel evil spirits who speak your language? Are the Chinese and Spanish ones so polite that they don't wish to confuse you?

It’s not just the language. It’s how that language is communicating in writing.

In the context of a Ouija Board, if they’re connecting with very old spirits then how come they’re so literate too?

I thought literacy was rarer in the past?

00100001 · 25/09/2022 23:11

CurseOfBigness · 25/09/2022 23:02

@ReneBumsWombatsHow come you always channel evil spirits who speak your language? Are the Chinese and Spanish ones so polite that they don't wish to confuse you?

It’s not just the language. It’s how that language is communicating in writing.

In the context of a Ouija Board, if they’re connecting with very old spirits then how come they’re so literate too?

I thought literacy was rarer in the past?

There's an extensive choice of education I'm the after life.

Everyone is given the opportunity to learn to read and write.

They all have to pass basic literacy tests before being allowed to join the Verbal and Written Communication Clubs, (Automatic Handwriting, Seance, Ouija etc) and can even learn languages too. This allows for exchange programmes.

Obviously some aren't as adept as others and despite passing the tests and having chances to practise, some spirits freeze/fluff and will come out with the wrong information/names. But they get additional support after any seances and get to try again.

3 strikes and they're limited to Physical Communication Clubs (Poltergeist Patrol or Rattlers!) or Noises Only Clubs; The Moanners and Groaners or, (popular with ex-plumbers!) The Pipe Bangers.

CurseOfBigness · 25/09/2022 23:12

Pinktoothbrushesarefab · 24/09/2022 20:11

@XDownwiththissortofthingX
Why are priests the natural counter to 'spirits'? What sort of magical powers do they possess over and above mere mortals? Is it something they are trained in at priest school? Do they have a special containment unit in seminaries where aspiring priests can hone their powers against captive spirits? What if the spirit is an atheist, is the priest rendered powerless? What if it's a muslim spirit? do you call an Imam? do you need to mix and match your priest to meet the requirements of the spirit at hand?

I'll try and answer your questions.

  1. We are not talking about spirits we are talking about demons.
  2. Priests do not fight evil alone, but with the backup of the Holy Catholic Church.
  3. They have to be specially trained as exorcists in Rome.
  4. Demons do not follow any religion or even none.

As I think your questions are perhaps a bit tongue-in-cheek I'll leave you with this quote from Baudeliere; "The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn’t exist"

Certainly interesting that the Roman Catholic Church take training in exorcism so seriously. Or that they do exorcisms at all.

"The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn’t exist"

Atheists walk straight into the Devil’s trap…

Smart strategy on the Devil’s part. No Devil, then by extension no God either. So who are people going to turn to? The ghost busters?

CurseOfBigness · 25/09/2022 23:23

00100001 · 25/09/2022 23:11

There's an extensive choice of education I'm the after life.

Everyone is given the opportunity to learn to read and write.

They all have to pass basic literacy tests before being allowed to join the Verbal and Written Communication Clubs, (Automatic Handwriting, Seance, Ouija etc) and can even learn languages too. This allows for exchange programmes.

Obviously some aren't as adept as others and despite passing the tests and having chances to practise, some spirits freeze/fluff and will come out with the wrong information/names. But they get additional support after any seances and get to try again.

3 strikes and they're limited to Physical Communication Clubs (Poltergeist Patrol or Rattlers!) or Noises Only Clubs; The Moanners and Groaners or, (popular with ex-plumbers!) The Pipe Bangers.

So the Ouija board afterlife offers equal opportunities… very generous.

00100001 · 25/09/2022 23:26

CurseOfBigness · 25/09/2022 23:23

So the Ouija board afterlife offers equal opportunities… very generous.

Well, they're stuck together for eternity, best to make the time pass as harmoniously as possible.

CaptainThe95thRifles · 25/09/2022 23:35

EbbyEbs · 24/09/2022 08:41

Well, what would YOU do?

I do like going for walks in the woods but last time a giant stag came running out in front of us and we were charged by an angry badger so I’ve been a bit put off!

Why would a close encounter with a stag or an angry badger be less desirable than a close encounter with a spirit?

At least when you tell the story, people will believe that the badger existed and it wasn't just your mate jiggling the pointer!

MeInCoventry · 25/09/2022 23:46

IncompleteSenten · 25/09/2022 17:36

Oh, or is londonrach joking?
I can't even tell any more.

I kind of want to go say candy man and bloody Mary in front of the mirror and see if they fight each other.

I just had a great idea (if I do say so…) a Facebook “Candyman” Challenge!

Monies raised could be donated to a women's shelter.

Who's in?!

tkwal · 26/09/2022 00:19

GuyMontag

Father Jack ....is that you ?

BruceHellerAlmighty · 26/09/2022 00:38

CurseOfBigness · 25/09/2022 23:02

@ReneBumsWombatsHow come you always channel evil spirits who speak your language? Are the Chinese and Spanish ones so polite that they don't wish to confuse you?

It’s not just the language. It’s how that language is communicating in writing.

In the context of a Ouija Board, if they’re connecting with very old spirits then how come they’re so literate too?

I thought literacy was rarer in the past?

Spelling was different in ye pasten dayes too. And letter formation - f instead of s and such. There really is potential for all kinds of confusion.

I mean, nobody's going to be too worried if they summon a spirit called Fatan but maybe they should be.

00100001 · 26/09/2022 07:10

BruceHellerAlmighty · 26/09/2022 00:38

Spelling was different in ye pasten dayes too. And letter formation - f instead of s and such. There really is potential for all kinds of confusion.

I mean, nobody's going to be too worried if they summon a spirit called Fatan but maybe they should be.

I told you, Afterlife have extensive education and leisure programmes. The Olde Paste Ghoastes of Yore have had centuries of education to update their literacy skills, and all for free!

Gotta fill eternity with something to do, otherwise they'd all get bored.

Miffee · 26/09/2022 07:54

00100001 · 25/09/2022 22:18

It's because it's one of the optional clubs in the afterlife. And the Ouija Board Spirit Team gives out the best doughnuts at the onboarding Afterlife Activities Fair

The Pentagram Club only give out 5 sided treats, which kinda limits it to homemade biscuits, they cut out by hand. Problem is, they don't cook very well as they only really have candles to heat their oven... So take up isn't as high.

😂

Awwlookatmybabyspider · 26/09/2022 08:28

If you piss an evil spirit off it'll be about as funny as fart in a locked lift. Please don't do it

Miffee · 26/09/2022 08:31

Awwlookatmybabyspider · 26/09/2022 08:28

If you piss an evil spirit off it'll be about as funny as fart in a locked lift. Please don't do it

How does a ouija board make this more likely?

Pinktoothbrushesarefab · 26/09/2022 08:56

@Miffee
How does a ouija board make this more likely?

Because you are giving evil an opening and inviting it into your life.

The Ouija board is far from harmless, as it is a form of divination (seeking information from supernatural sources). The fact of the matter is, the Ouija board really does work, and the only “spirits” that will be contacted through it are evil ones.
It’s true that many people view the Ouija board as harmless. They often claim, “Oh, I don’t believe in it,” or something to this effect. However, a disbelief in something does not necessarily mean that something isn’t real. The Ouija board has an objective reality that exists apart from a person’s perception of it. In other words, it’s real even if you don’t believe in it.

ReneBumsWombats · 26/09/2022 09:08

Because you are giving evil an opening and inviting it into your life.

Hasbro isn't that bad.

The Ouija board has an objective reality that exists apart from a person’s perception of it. In other words, it’s real even if you don’t believe in it.

In other words, it's ideomotor movement. Demonstrably and provably so.

Pinktoothbrushesarefab · 26/09/2022 09:15

@ReneBumsWombats

If you don't want believe a word I say, that's your prerogative.

In any event the OP is BVU to try and force her DH to do something that gives him concern.

Psychopomps · 26/09/2022 09:28

Pinktoothbrushesarefab · 26/09/2022 08:56

@Miffee
How does a ouija board make this more likely?

Because you are giving evil an opening and inviting it into your life.

The Ouija board is far from harmless, as it is a form of divination (seeking information from supernatural sources). The fact of the matter is, the Ouija board really does work, and the only “spirits” that will be contacted through it are evil ones.
It’s true that many people view the Ouija board as harmless. They often claim, “Oh, I don’t believe in it,” or something to this effect. However, a disbelief in something does not necessarily mean that something isn’t real. The Ouija board has an objective reality that exists apart from a person’s perception of it. In other words, it’s real even if you don’t believe in it.

The ouija board has an ‘objective reality’ in the sense that it exists as a physical board with a planchette or, alternatively, a homemade set of hand-written letters and an upturned glass — that’s about it in terms of ‘objective reality’. The rest is a fluctuating haze of suggestibility, gullibility, ideomotor effect and group hysteria.

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