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To think these messages aren't innocent?

151 replies

confusedanddispute · 24/09/2022 00:57

Between my husband and his ex from a long time ago. It's the times that bother me the most, late nights when he was out and not with me.

These were sent to me, I didn't find them, never had a reason to go through his phone and even if I wanted to (which I kind of do now) he has a lock on it. Married 3 years, together 5.

To think these messages aren't innocent?
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WagathaChristieMystery · 24/09/2022 01:03

Are the messages from your husband the ones in white? It sounds like they have an easy dynamic between them (I guess that’s sort of to be expected, given they have history). It’s nice to see they still get on, but I understand why you feel uncomfortable at them speaking with each other and also at times when your husband is on a night out.

Could you talk to your husband about it and raise it with him like you have here - ie. someone sent you these messages, and see what he says?

confusedanddispute · 24/09/2022 01:06

WagathaChristieMystery · 24/09/2022 01:03

Are the messages from your husband the ones in white? It sounds like they have an easy dynamic between them (I guess that’s sort of to be expected, given they have history). It’s nice to see they still get on, but I understand why you feel uncomfortable at them speaking with each other and also at times when your husband is on a night out.

Could you talk to your husband about it and raise it with him like you have here - ie. someone sent you these messages, and see what he says?

Yes my husband is the messages in white. I suppose I could speak to him but I wouldn't want to have to divulge where I got the messages from. He would just tell me to get a grip anyways and that nothing was going on.

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HangOnToYourself · 24/09/2022 01:08

Did his ex send.them? If so it sounds like she is trying to cause trouble.

Luredbyapomegranate · 24/09/2022 01:17

The ex sent them you think?

They just sound like close friends, rather than anything more, but if she sent you these then obviously she is trouble and I would speak to him.

steff13 · 24/09/2022 01:25

They sound innocent to me, but I don't understand where they came from. Are there more?

BadNomad · 24/09/2022 01:27

Eh. There is nothing in them to say "not innocent." What's the story? Did they bump into each other? Did she phone him up while drunk?

Scottishguy · 24/09/2022 01:34

She's trying the resolve and he says he's happy straight out the gate. Unless there's other ones where he's flirting it looks like he's shutting it down.

MarieKlepto · 24/09/2022 01:41

Who/why/how did you get them is a factor. A few years ago I got a SM message from an ex (not husband but a v significant part of my life). I responded in a friendly/cool manner like your husband did initially. That was the end of that. Off he popped, obviously trying to fish or whatever. I didn't get back to him a couple of weeks later with "Oi" to try and get a further response. I didn't tell my husband about it, it was unnecessary.

fallfallfall · 24/09/2022 01:49

much more info needed. example; i'm 65 if i was to contact my first bf from secondary school on fb and say hello and comment on a photo of his happy little family i wouldn't be doing anything other than a mature gentle conversation with someone with whom i shared a troubled teen romance.
my dd's partner heard his ex wife's father had passed away he offered his condolences they were married for 10 years. that's a kind gesture not fishing to rekindle the romance.
why are you questioning his motives?

Vecna · 24/09/2022 01:51

Sorry, I do find it suspicious. It's the unsociable hours they were sent that bothers me.

SettingsO · 24/09/2022 01:55

It reads to me that she’s saying she’s embarrassed that she came on to him, but he gave her the brush off by telling her he is happy, presumably with you.

Vapeyvapevape · 24/09/2022 01:59

Who sent them to you and why ? The 'why' is important, is someone trying to tell you there's something going on? Is the ex stirring up trouble? The timing on them could mean they were drunk.

Vapeyvapevape · 24/09/2022 02:01

Scottishguy · 24/09/2022 01:34

She's trying the resolve and he says he's happy straight out the gate. Unless there's other ones where he's flirting it looks like he's shutting it down.

This is true up to the point where he messages again trying to get a response.

Vapeyvapevape · 24/09/2022 02:03

Vapeyvapevape · 24/09/2022 02:01

This is true up to the point where he messages again trying to get a response.

This should have been to @SettingsO

Discovereads · 24/09/2022 02:30

You do know that such messages can be faked? How do you know they are authentic?

AndTwoFilmsByFrancoisTruffaut · 24/09/2022 02:35

I think I’d be a bit hmm until the ‘oi’.

Then my instincts would be to be suspicious. Why is he pushing for a response. Like he’s enjoying the somewhat odd exchange. I think she came onto him, he likely did rebuff. But at the same time, enjoyed the attention and wants some more.

Discovereads · 24/09/2022 02:36

www.anonymoustext.com/blog/send-a-fake-text/

You can send fake texts to anyone, including yourself and part of this includes faking another person sending them. You can even select a time for them to be sent. No need to stay up till 3am or get up at 6am.

willithappen · 24/09/2022 02:38

Discovereads · 24/09/2022 02:36

www.anonymoustext.com/blog/send-a-fake-text/

You can send fake texts to anyone, including yourself and part of this includes faking another person sending them. You can even select a time for them to be sent. No need to stay up till 3am or get up at 6am.

It's an Instagram message

Discovereads · 24/09/2022 02:43

willithappen · 24/09/2022 02:38

It's an Instagram message

Oops. But Instagram messages can be faked as well. Every type of message can be:

fakedetail.com/fake-instagram-chat-generator
generatestatus.com/fake-instagram-direct-message/
zeoob.com/generate-instagram-chat/
www.wofox.com/ui-editing-tools/instagram-chat-mockup

mitskii · 24/09/2022 02:50

I’m curious - presumably your husband is the person on the right, which would mean that the person who sent them to you was either him or someone with access to his instagram. Who sent them to you? Or is he the one on the left?

Discovereads · 24/09/2022 03:07

Vapeyvapevape · 24/09/2022 01:59

Who sent them to you and why ? The 'why' is important, is someone trying to tell you there's something going on? Is the ex stirring up trouble? The timing on them could mean they were drunk.

This is very important. You didn’t find these messages on his phone. So they may not even be real/have happened. They have red flags too. Like what are the odds that every message would not only be sequentially on a later date, but also sequentially at a later time? very slim.

In addition, the time stamps have clear signs they may be made up numbers.

  • First msg @ 21:39…..2, 1 is a descending sequence
  • Second msg @ 22:38….this is a digit for digit ascending sequence on hour 1,2 and descending sequence on minutes 9,8 from first text. Really odd coincidence.
  • Third msg @ 03:26…3,2 another descending sequence
  • Fourth msg @ 06:12…1,2 an ascending sequence
Fakers tend to over-use ascending or descending digit sequences when generating fake numbers. Every text shows this= over use. Crazy odds this would happen IRL. Fakers also tend to use one sequence of favourite digits more often…and yep the 1,2/2,1 sequence appears three times in four texts, don’t forget to count the 1,2 going from first text to second text of 21 to 22 for the hour.

Fakers also have favourite digits….obviously the favourite digits here are 1,2,3…they’re in every message. Quite peculiar.

Can see the same sequencing and repetition in the dates 13, 16, 17, 07

Discovereads · 24/09/2022 03:17

Missed the second text also has 2,3 descending sequence in the time stamp.
So that’s five descending/ascending sequences in four messages.

Scroll through real conversations on your phones. You won’t find these patterns in a real conversation.

Mybestyear · 24/09/2022 03:48

@Discovereads -this is fascinating although I have literally no idea what you are talking about - can you explain for dummies please??? Thanks

leavesonthegroundsoon · 24/09/2022 03:55

@Discovereads
Does that mean messages have been deleted?

leavesonthegroundsoon · 24/09/2022 03:58

@Discovereads
What do you mean 'fakers'? How would someone do that? Do you mean they've been tampered with, then screenshot to send?