Should I tip the pizza delivery person?

[JamesBondOO7]

Tomorrow I'm ordering pizza from Dominos
I usually leave to our children but I'm doing this
I will be ordering approx 85 quids worth of food for
6 of us inc 2 toddlers. As we are paying online
and IMO the bill is lager than the usal 50-sh after discounts - I will feel bad not tipping the man/woman

A quid is not right but then I'm thinking why should I as I', pay 2 quid (1-99) in delivery and the employer should be paying a proper wage

It will be easier not to tip as paying online but I don't want the delivery person
giving me faces etc though that would make it easier for me later ie not giving a tip

What do you think but I'm almost a 100% cert I won't

(on the odd occasion we eat out we tip 10% but it does hurt.

£85! Is that what pizza costs if you do a delivery now?

A mention in Newsweek.
I had a mention as well in the DM re BiL naming their dog after me.
Am I famous, lol?

Again I thank you all for helping me decide not to give a tip to the pizza guy.
Employers should pay a fair wage and fair compensation for wear and tear on their vehicles/etc.

It is not fair to tip the pizza guy IMO having read these comments/help as others in the shop on equally low wages won't get any share of the tips.

In London, I know this co charges between 1-99p for us this time and someone else told me it was 2-50 for them possibly the area is more built up - who gets that bit of the money?

There are many other sectors that get a similar wage, they don't get tipped, why should the pizza person.

I said and others have stated similar - eating out and being served by a waiter possibly a 3-course meal and tipping is a completely different experience and on the odd occasion I eat out we would pay 10% for A1 service with a smile and zero for a poor service.

A pizza delivery person is like our postman, bin man, parcel guy, Tesco man etc etc and we don't tip them and they come almost daily/weekly so why on earth tip the pizza guy

I think people who can afford to tip and don't are stingy. They try to cover this up by saying that employers should pay more but they real reason is they don't want to tip because they are tight.

That is your prerogative but I've made myself clear, it is the principle but as I said, you believe what you want as I want you to be happy like me.

We did not get to where we are by throwing away our money.
It's not just about earning money it is what you do with the money and being prudent counts for a lot.

This thread has entrenched my judgement about not paying the pizza person and I am so happy about it and the little guilt I had when I first posted about it has gone out of the window a long time ago.

This tipping culture is not for me. However, anyone that is happy to tip the pizza guy, by all means, go ahead and do this but it's not for me.

The simple truth. And if you can afford a takeaway, you can afford a tip.

That's not what OP said at all...

"A pizza delivery person is like our postman, bin man, parcel guy, Tesco man etc etc and we don't tip them and they come almost daily/weekly so why on earth tip the pizza guy"

^EXACTLY

A pizza delivery person is like our postman, bin man, parcel guy, Tesco man etc etc and we don't tip them and they come almost daily/weekly so why on earth tip the pizza guy

There’s a big difference between a proper job with paid leave etc and a zero-hours contract. Even so, many people also give the postman and binmen etc a tip at Christmas.

Refusing to tip the pizza guy is plain meanness. But go ahead and enjoy the cosy little glow of having an extra couple of quid in your purse while he misses out, since it makes you so happy.

I don't ever have cash to tip even if I wanted to.

People on zero hours contracts have to be given paid leave too in the UK. It's often added to the hourly payment. The pay isn't any different to others on minimum wage.

Hope many tesco drivers or bin men do you know who have to provide their own vehicle, pay for their own fuel, and if they damage the vehicle pay for it out their own pockets? (They get a small per delivery fee that doesn't cover vehicle costs))

How many bin men go to work expected to be available for and expecting to be paid for a 6 hour shift but told to go home after less than two because it isnt busy enough.

Your bin men, post men also get benefits such as paid above min wage, sick pay etc. They are in no way comparable.

The payment they receive per delivery will have been calculated to cover fuel and wear and tear. If it didn't Domino's would be breaking the law as that person would be receiving less than minimum wage. Tesco delivery drivers don't get an extra payment per delivery because they are using the company vehicle.
All people in the UK are entitled to benefits such as holiday pay (7 mins per hour worked). I don't think Tesco workers usually get sick pay beyond statutory sick pay and pizza delivery drivers would be entitled to that too.

If it’s tight not to tip pizza delivery drivers then surely it’s tight not to routinely add more onto the cost of every service or product.

What’s so special or demanding about delivering a pizza that it deserves a tip?

Its nothing to do with being tight, it’s about there being nothing to tip for when the only thing someone is doing is handing over a pizza.

At a hairdressers or a beauty salon someone might decide to tip because they recognise that they have had a particularly nice head massage, or the staff have been attentive by providing a drink or doing something else to make their client more comfortable, or there might have been a lovely personal conversation. The person providing those services have the opportunity to earn a tip, but a pizza delivery person just doesn’t.

From what a PP said about the wages Domino’s pay their drivers, they are earning more than the TA’s or nursery workers that care for and educate your child. Is it tight not to slip those people a couple of quid at the end of every day considering they’ve actually provided a personal service to you?

Why would it be considered madness to tip those people but tight not to tip someone that just hands over the pizza in a delivery you’ve already paid for?

It makes no sense, and it seems to me that those that are calling others tight for a perfectly normal choice are actually quite greedy in expecting other peoples money for no reason.

....I find the notion of throwing some poorly-paid minion a couple of dollars to do their ‘lowly’ job (because it is only the jobs we as a society seem to be lowly), to be so cringey. There is something incredibly patronising and classist about the practice.

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This

Are you saying the pizza delivery guys are not fully aware of what the job entails, costs, their wages etc before they take on this role??

What about the mileage claims? how much is that - who gets the 2 00 to 250p delivery costs?

The payment they receive per delivery will have been calculated to cover fuel and wear and tear. If it didn't Domino's would be breaking the law as that person would be receiving less than minimum wage.

This also... I think some people seem to get a kick out of making pizza delivery drivers some kind of "cause celebre" as downtrodden wretched charity cases.

Ds gets £1.30 per delivery. He has only been there a few months, drivers who have been there for longer say it has never been increased and have complained but it had fallen on deaf ears . It hasnt changed in 8 years, when fuel prices have gone from around £1.10 to £1.75 and cost of car maintenance has increased significantly. The drivers dont get the new delivery charges.

Drivers know what the job entails - the drivers are usually uni students working through uni, or low wage earners doing it PT to supplement their FT job, the flexibility (as long as you accept working most Saturday nights) suits them.

All those people say you are unreasonable, who cares. So what if you can afford the pizza, they are charging you delivery so where does that money go? Domino hire their own drivers, instead of deliveroo or ubereats, so are they keeping this charge or giving it to the drivers? We are not the US, WE DO NOT GARNISH PEOPLE'S WAGES

Growing up with a hard-working father who delivered Chinese food as his second job, despite having two dodgy knees and a heart condition, out in all weathers, snow, hail, torrential rain etc, not tipping is an alien concept to me. I've watched my dad deliver £79.90 worth of food in an extremely affluent area of Glasgow and the customer has stood there with their hand out waiting for their 10p change. A lot of drivers wages goes on fuel, and with prices more expensive recently there's not a lot left over. Get a better job, people say. But then who will deliver your food when it's cold, wet, or you can't be bothered? I'll always tip at least £2.

This appeared on my Google news. Well done OP.

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Here you go OP, you've made it onto lots of news sites.

Also I think you're a dad but according to the press you're now a mum...

It's off how in some jobs tips are expected yet others not. If only it was normal to tip nurses, for example.
Agree with PP on the whole awkwardness, feels like a pat on the head, a little pity treat - I can't help feeling a bit weird (was it enough, do they think I'm tight, were they offended, was it patronising?)

Be cause the jobs are usually underpaid and taken up by people who need casual jobs - students etc. It all adds up. My 16 year old earns less than £5 an hour. If every table she waited gave her just £1 tip that would more than double her earnings. So a 5 hour shift would take her from £25 to over £50 and it wouldn't make much difference to the people she served.

My daughters friend worked for domino's at 16 , in the kitchen's. Her boss put pressure on her to work unsociable hours and the pay, like you say is shockingly bad for these kids. She gave it up in the end, but because she was working in the kitchen she had no chance of getting any tips to top it up.

I've asked the student I know who delivers for Domino's whether gets tips. He said not many do (I'm guessing that most are students) & those that do tend to be the older generation.