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whatstheproblemguys · 19/09/2022 20:39

We've had a fairly good relationship with our neighbour up to now, so am genuinely curious as to whether my view is skewed or not.

We live in a semi detached and have done for the last 10 years.
There have been occasions over this time where we've helped next door out, usually with things like appliances having broken and pests in the garden or house. We've never asked a thing of next door as we generally get on with our own stuff or hire someone to fix it ourselves.

Now onto my issue.
Next door has rabbits. They are those small rabbits, even though fully grown. They are allowed to run free in the garden over the daytime, even with everyone at work/school.

Recently, a neighbours cat has shown interest in the rabbits, so understandably next door is worried about this and has decided to make the garden 'safe'. The plan, as we were told it, was it put anti cat spikes on their shed and the shed next door (not ours, the other side). I thought it was weird at the time, thinking just having them on the shed wouldn't do anything but didn't say anything.
Next thing I get a message a couple of weeks ago to say the workmen are coming, could they access the shed from my garden. I said no problem, just to tell me when they needed to come in and I'd put the dog inside, as I wasn't working that day. I double checked that they were just going on the shed, and they said yes!
I was putting some stuff away upstairs and looked out the window, and noticed the workmen had put the spikes all round the top of the fence on their other neighbours side, and the back, and that they were now measuring the fence on my side. So I went out, and asked if they were planning to put them on our fence, he said yes, that's what they'd been paid to do. He said 'well that halts my next question, as I was going to ask if we could put them on your side of the fence, as it is the flat side'
I explained that I'd been told they were just going on their shed, not the fences, and as the fence is under our ownership, we weren't happy about them being on there at all, let alone our side, especially as we hadn't been asked.
The workman was fine, said no worries, they'd pack up and let the neighbour know and that as the fence is ours, they couldn't continue.

The neighbour messaged the same day, asking us to reconsider and at least think about it.

Fast forward to this weekend, where after us having reiterated our point that we didn't want them on our fence. We explained that we don't like how they look, don't want the screws coming through to our side, and also don't think that they are actually going to fix the problem. We've now had a barrage of stroppy messages blaming us for the money they spent on materials, that the rabbits now can't run free because it's not safe and that we've ruined their lives.

So, AIBU to think that having rabbits running around the garden, regardless of cat spikes, is a bad idea? That we're not dicks for not wanting spikes on our fence? And that they should have been honest from the start?

Thank you to anyone who got this far 😂

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sueelleker · 21/09/2022 11:20

GnomeDePlume · 21/09/2022 10:00

Neighbour's cat used to sleep in my rabbit's run. One day the rabbit took his chance to have his wicked way with the cat. The cat shot out and took to living a very retired existence in high places.

😂😂😂

Somethingneedstochange · 21/09/2022 11:20

We used to have rabbits would never let them have the run of the garden. One of my nephews rabbits was attacked by a cat and sadly they lost him. We do get a lot of cats in our garden as well as crows and seagulls. All of which are capable of killing a rabbit. We had runs for them if we were out in the garden we would let them roam. Until one borrowed out and got killed by a car. So after that only let them in the runs. We would leave them out in the runs if we were going out for a few hours but never all day. What do they do If the weathers bad? One of my friends rabbits had the run of the garden. When it snowed unexpectedly in March of her teen children came home and found him frozen to death. Pet rabbits should really be in a shed during the colder months. They can't cope with the colder months and equally during a heatwave

Banana2079 · 21/09/2022 11:26

Most cats won’t be interested in the rabbits but even if the spikes were on your side it wouldn’t prevent cats from getting into the garden they sound like very irresponsible owners they should put them in a hutch when they’re out . It’s foxes they should be worried about not cats the fox will just burrow under the fence lol

Unexpecteddrivinginstructor · 21/09/2022 11:32

My cat sleeps on my shiatsu mat, can't see a bunch of spikes being effective.

Whoactuallythinksthat · 21/09/2022 11:33

I have to be honest and say that the spikes probably wouldn’t bother me. However, your neighbours’ attitude sucks. They weren’t honest and they’re irresponsible pet owners. So on that basis YANBU!

Ein · 21/09/2022 11:46

Your neighbours are idiots and worse, liars. Good thing you caught the workman!

You’re correct that the cat will find a way over the cat spikes. Cats do not like cat spikes, but put prey on the other side and they’ll happily run along the spikes to get the prey.

My friend used to have free range rabbits. Got eaten by a cat. Bought more. Got eaten by a fox.

The irony is that your neighbour’s rabbits would probably be much happier in a run where they’d feel safer.

Creepymanonagoatfarm · 21/09/2022 11:57

I hope there is a helpline for all these poor assaulted dcats!

Vickie232 · 21/09/2022 11:58

Yanbu, they shouldn’t be leaving the rabbits out all day when they aren’t home! And the spikes are not going to stop other predators such as large birds that swoop into gardens for food!

walterwhitesgf · 21/09/2022 12:09

Our (weird) neighbour has these spikes on their fence which borders our garden. It doesn't stop cats getting into their garden at all. I see neighbourhood cats managing to negotiate their way over them often. As has already been said, oher predators such as birds of prey, foxes and even rats if the rabbits are small enough to be taken or injured by a cat, will still be able to get at the poor rabbits anyway . I'm surprised they haven't already .

InsertPunHere · 21/09/2022 12:23

I hadn’t realised those spikes were supposed to deter cats! I thought they were to discourage pigeons from landing on the fence.

Every day’s a school day…

Fladdermus · 21/09/2022 12:28

whatstheproblemguys · 20/09/2022 00:57

I didn't know that! Why does it invalidate insurance?
Be good to have the reasoning in my back pocket for round 3!

I think that if you have them on your fence then you are liable for any injury caused by them.

Thinkingblonde · 21/09/2022 12:39

It won’t stop the cats getting in. Our neighbour out the back has those spikes. I’ve seen a cat doing a beautifully executed ballet type walk through the spikes and then watched as it jumped into the blokes garden.
I hope he has a fox proof hutch and a covered run too.

TheOrigRights · 21/09/2022 12:41

InsertPunHere · 21/09/2022 12:23

I hadn’t realised those spikes were supposed to deter cats! I thought they were to discourage pigeons from landing on the fence.

Every day’s a school day…

You are right, they are to stop the birds, NOT cats. Cats are way to clever to be outsmarted by a row of spikes.

TheOrigRights · 21/09/2022 12:41

*too clever

WindsweptNotInteresting · 21/09/2022 13:13

InsertPunHere · 21/09/2022 12:23

I hadn’t realised those spikes were supposed to deter cats! I thought they were to discourage pigeons from landing on the fence.

Every day’s a school day…

I bought some of the plastic spikes for the top of our swing set to stop the pigeons pooping on the swings (they are not sharp spikes, so would not actually hurt them, they are just uncomfortable) and this is what I have to put up with... They are clearly mocking me. Bastards.

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GasPanic · 21/09/2022 13:22

Maybe you should just cave in and let the spikes go on.

Judging by what's said on here, the things will be lucky to survive a couple of days as they get either attacked by a swarm of different predators or tunnel out only to get mown down by motor vehicles.

Then you can reply with a smug told you so and remove the spikes.

SapphireSeptember · 21/09/2022 13:44

Poor bunnies having to live on AstroTurf! 😢 I'd kidnap the bunnies, personally, and then give them to someone who'll look after them properly...

Bunnyfuller · 21/09/2022 13:52

😂😂😂😂😂 perhaps suggest they train a guard cat, you know, to fight all the other cats off. Or have the garden fitted with one of those big aviary net things. Or a glass dome, a la Eden Project.

poor rabbits, living their best natural life ON ASTROTURF 😂😂😂

Onlyhuman123 · 21/09/2022 13:59

whatstheproblemguys · 20/09/2022 00:03

It's these. I honestly don't even think the cat will touch them. They're tiny and at the very least, might feel slightly uncomfortable under its foot, by no means are we talking fatal injuries or impaling.

Sorry OP, but one of our cats paws was badly damaged by these bloody spikes put up on OUR fence by our curmudgeon of a neighbour...swiftly unscrewed, shoved through her letterbox with a note asking if she would like to pay the vet bill?? So they can and do damage cats sadly.

niccyb · 21/09/2022 20:26

They sound absolutely nuts!
I've had 3 rabbits at once running free in my garden. They would go in their run when at work and if we were in we would give them free reign in the garden! The cats on the estate would terrorise them yes and they would give as good as they got or go in the run.

it's your property not theirs. What sort of people think they can do that?? Tell them to get lost

BeepyBoo · 22/09/2022 20:02

Even if I didn't mind the spikes, I'd be annoyed and uncomfortable that they just arranged for them to be fitted to my fence without having a conversation with me first about it, to check if it was ok. That's enough to say no.

To me that's crossing boundaries and I'd be worried about other things they'd think they could just do, without any thought of how it affects me. They sound like the kind of people who notice who they can ride rough-shod over, and then take the piss.

Reminds me of the time I let a boyfriend stay in my house whilst I was at work, then one day I opened my laptop and there was a photo he'd placed on the homescreen. He'd not asked if he could use the laptop, and I didn't know he'd been using it. Then he acts like it's fine. Spooky and disrespectful.

Cailleach1 · 22/09/2022 20:31

StridTheKiller · 19/09/2022 21:04

Won't stop birds eating or menacing them. Bellends.

Em, is there not a possibility that the rabbits could burrow out of the garden if they are running free? If some predator or other doesn't get them.

The concrete of the fence posts will go down so far, but burrows can as well.

Cailleach1 · 22/09/2022 20:33

Sorry @StridTheKiller , didn't mean to quote you.

whatstheproblemguys · 22/09/2022 22:23

BeepyBoo · 22/09/2022 20:02

Even if I didn't mind the spikes, I'd be annoyed and uncomfortable that they just arranged for them to be fitted to my fence without having a conversation with me first about it, to check if it was ok. That's enough to say no.

To me that's crossing boundaries and I'd be worried about other things they'd think they could just do, without any thought of how it affects me. They sound like the kind of people who notice who they can ride rough-shod over, and then take the piss.

Reminds me of the time I let a boyfriend stay in my house whilst I was at work, then one day I opened my laptop and there was a photo he'd placed on the homescreen. He'd not asked if he could use the laptop, and I didn't know he'd been using it. Then he acts like it's fine. Spooky and disrespectful.

Totally agree!
I think that's my issue more than the spikes if I'm honest. Don't be sneaky over it and then pissy with us when you get caught out.
We haven't seen them in a few days. Also noticed that their kids have been more careful about kicking their footballs over and if they do, they've stopped knocking the door and are just waiting for us to throw them back. Prior to this they were knocking 5-10 door knocks an evening!

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whatstheproblemguys · 22/09/2022 22:24

Cailleach1 · 22/09/2022 20:33

Sorry @StridTheKiller , didn't mean to quote you.

They have astroturf, and the rabbits don't seem to try to dig through it.

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