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whatstheproblemguys · 19/09/2022 20:39

We've had a fairly good relationship with our neighbour up to now, so am genuinely curious as to whether my view is skewed or not.

We live in a semi detached and have done for the last 10 years.
There have been occasions over this time where we've helped next door out, usually with things like appliances having broken and pests in the garden or house. We've never asked a thing of next door as we generally get on with our own stuff or hire someone to fix it ourselves.

Now onto my issue.
Next door has rabbits. They are those small rabbits, even though fully grown. They are allowed to run free in the garden over the daytime, even with everyone at work/school.

Recently, a neighbours cat has shown interest in the rabbits, so understandably next door is worried about this and has decided to make the garden 'safe'. The plan, as we were told it, was it put anti cat spikes on their shed and the shed next door (not ours, the other side). I thought it was weird at the time, thinking just having them on the shed wouldn't do anything but didn't say anything.
Next thing I get a message a couple of weeks ago to say the workmen are coming, could they access the shed from my garden. I said no problem, just to tell me when they needed to come in and I'd put the dog inside, as I wasn't working that day. I double checked that they were just going on the shed, and they said yes!
I was putting some stuff away upstairs and looked out the window, and noticed the workmen had put the spikes all round the top of the fence on their other neighbours side, and the back, and that they were now measuring the fence on my side. So I went out, and asked if they were planning to put them on our fence, he said yes, that's what they'd been paid to do. He said 'well that halts my next question, as I was going to ask if we could put them on your side of the fence, as it is the flat side'
I explained that I'd been told they were just going on their shed, not the fences, and as the fence is under our ownership, we weren't happy about them being on there at all, let alone our side, especially as we hadn't been asked.
The workman was fine, said no worries, they'd pack up and let the neighbour know and that as the fence is ours, they couldn't continue.

The neighbour messaged the same day, asking us to reconsider and at least think about it.

Fast forward to this weekend, where after us having reiterated our point that we didn't want them on our fence. We explained that we don't like how they look, don't want the screws coming through to our side, and also don't think that they are actually going to fix the problem. We've now had a barrage of stroppy messages blaming us for the money they spent on materials, that the rabbits now can't run free because it's not safe and that we've ruined their lives.

So, AIBU to think that having rabbits running around the garden, regardless of cat spikes, is a bad idea? That we're not dicks for not wanting spikes on our fence? And that they should have been honest from the start?

Thank you to anyone who got this far 😂

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Rosehugger · 21/09/2022 09:39

And I used to have chickens - foxes gradually picked them off. They will definitely go for rabbits roaming in the garden. I'd suggest to them that if they don't make a run for their rabbits they soon won't have a cat problem as the rabbits will be eaten anyway.

CunningStunt86 · 21/09/2022 09:39

ChilliBandit · 19/09/2022 20:49

They are batshit. You did nothing wrong. It will all blow over when they realise cats easily find a way around cat spikes anyway. They are sly creatures.

"They are sly creatures"

The neighbours? Yes, they do seem it!!

whoruntheworldgirls · 21/09/2022 09:40

Ewock · 19/09/2022 21:41

They are crazy. We have dwarf rabbits and also a cat from the house behind who likes to stalk them. We have bought spray which is working but we never leave the rabbits unattended. There are other animals which could hurt them. We have a large hutch and large run. They have access to the run at all times during the day. When we are home they have access to the entire garden. Our choice to get rabbits so our problem to make it safe not our neighbours.

Can i ask what spray? I have a cat getting in my garden all time and catching the birds, despite having a bell on it's collar so i'd like to deter it.

Mumofferralkid3 · 21/09/2022 09:44

Your neighbour is bonkers. It's not your fault that they went ahead and took liberties.
As for knowing your neighbours are nuts , they hoover their rabbit sh*t. That made me heave.

CannibalQueen · 21/09/2022 09:46

Cat spikes won't stop cats. Foxes. Or hawks. They are not protecting their rabbits at all.

Rosehugger · 21/09/2022 09:51

Yes, good point. We often have buzzards circling the garden!

Kitchenlight · 21/09/2022 09:56

whatstheproblemguys · 19/09/2022 21:01

I think they meant we'd ruined the rabbits lives, rather than the peoples lives, but still super dramatic!
I'm sure the rabbits would rather they weren't chased round the garden by a cat, which they've sent me footage of!

They could just put a massive net over their entire garden st their fence height. Then the rabbits could have the run of the garden

GnomeDePlume · 21/09/2022 10:00

Neighbour's cat used to sleep in my rabbit's run. One day the rabbit took his chance to have his wicked way with the cat. The cat shot out and took to living a very retired existence in high places.

beachcitygirl · 21/09/2022 10:10

They are batshit.

concernedrepurplehouse · 21/09/2022 10:11

LimpBiskit · 19/09/2022 20:49
Buy a pet fox

lol :).
this reminds me of when my bizarre neighbours wanted their chickens to roam free down the lane….

TollgateDebs · 21/09/2022 10:25

Cat spikes don't work - take it from someone whose neighbour spiked their own fence and then had to watch the cat easily get through, over and walk between them!!

Rosehugger · 21/09/2022 10:27

The odd cat would go for a rabbit, most would be wise to remain curious at a distance. They could kick a cat that gets too near into next week.

Dreamwhisper · 21/09/2022 10:30

I haven't rtft and am sure it's been said many times but rabbits are equally if not more so at risk from birds of prey, especially domestic rabbits as they tend to be flashier in colour.

If they love their rabbits so much then they should move to free roaming and bunny proofing their homes, and letting the bunnies out when they are there to supervise.

gatehouseoffleet · 21/09/2022 10:35

Annoyingkidsmusic · 21/09/2022 09:31

They sound really, really thick.

Anyone who has astroturf is really thick. Especially if they've got pet rabbits. Why would they want to nibble at plastic?

FangsForTheMemory · 21/09/2022 10:38

I’d definitely be getting a medium bird of prey on loan.

BexieIDisSherlocked · 21/09/2022 10:44

Do the rabbits even have enough enrichment? The garden sounds rather barren and boring. They need toys, hides, tunnels and an area to dig. I was hoping the RSPCA site would say something about the awful astroturf, but I’ve not found anything. Poor wee things bless them. Your neighbours, on the other hand, are idiots.

WhichSideOfTheMoon · 21/09/2022 10:52

I’m another one who is worried about the rabbits being on astroturf.
I have just looked on Google - somewhere it says that although rabbits don’t eat it as such, they can gnaw and chew on it, and it is TOXIC!

I would try to talk to the neighbours reasonably!
Tell them about the birds of prey, that actually rabbits like real grass, and that plastic grass is toxic.

They would do far better spending their money on a large covered run, providing real grass (if they can), and providing the rabbits with as many natural things as possible.
Rabbit-friendly plants….shade….hay…..etc?

BunnyMumofSix · 21/09/2022 10:54

I used to let my bunnies have the run of the garden, one day while sat outside a Magpie swooped down and pecked one of the rabbits eyes out, it was so fast and over before we could actually move, even the dog didn't move until after it was over, Luckily we were out there so we got the bunny to the vets in record time. Now they no longer have the run of the garden which I do feel bad about but I've made them some 24/7 runs which connect to smaller runs that I can move around the garden for fresh grass.

Your neighbours are bonkers, runs don't have to be the tiny things pet shops sell and keep them safer.

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WhenISnappedAndFarted · 21/09/2022 10:54

I have free roaming rabbits and also have cats. They aren't the small dwarf rabbits though. Initially the cats were interested but one of my rabbits kicked a cat with her back legs when he got too close and they've left them alone since. I've not had any issues with other predators either.

They've got no right to complain that you are ruining the rabbits lives when they have them living on astroturf.

shockthemonkey · 21/09/2022 11:03

whatstheproblemguys · 19/09/2022 20:53

This is what I said, to which they told me that they shouldn't have to be confined to a run when they could make the garden safe with these spikes and I'd ruined the lives of the rabbits.

So they can jolly well turn their entire garden into a rabbit run. That way the rabbits still have the run of the whole space, and remain safe from cats and foxes.

And a good point from PP about other predators. Do you have red kites around where you live? They'd be happy to scoop up the odd rabbit or two, no problem.

TheOrigRights · 21/09/2022 11:04

My dog loving but cat hating neighbour put those darn spikes on her fence. I laughed when the cat just tiptoed around them.

Cognacsoft · 21/09/2022 11:05

gatehouseoffleet · 21/09/2022 10:35

Anyone who has astroturf is really thick. Especially if they've got pet rabbits. Why would they want to nibble at plastic?

Agreed.
In hot weather astrofurf reaches very high temperatures so the rabbits wouldn’t be able to walk on it anyway and the whole idea of a rabbit run is to give them access to fresh grass.

Jaffacats · 21/09/2022 11:06

Yanbu: it’s your fence. Your neighbours are being melodramatic and impractical. Rabbits can attract all sorts of predators and those spikes probably won’t deter a determined cat. They could have spent some cash on a bespoke mesh run.

Booklover3 · 21/09/2022 11:12

We used to have chickens… those spikes don’t do anything. Fox still clambered over them. They don’t work at all

DisappearingGirl · 21/09/2022 11:13

Personally the spikes wouldn't bother me - they're pretty low key aren't they - so if they've gone to the trouble of trying them on the other sides of their garden I wouldn't personally mind if they wanted to put them on my fence as well. I'd probably say yes for good neighbourly relations. Though technically you have the right to say no of course, if the idea really bothers you.

But I do agree that the rabbits are at risk anyway as in all the other comments.

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