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whatstheproblemguys · 19/09/2022 20:39

We've had a fairly good relationship with our neighbour up to now, so am genuinely curious as to whether my view is skewed or not.

We live in a semi detached and have done for the last 10 years.
There have been occasions over this time where we've helped next door out, usually with things like appliances having broken and pests in the garden or house. We've never asked a thing of next door as we generally get on with our own stuff or hire someone to fix it ourselves.

Now onto my issue.
Next door has rabbits. They are those small rabbits, even though fully grown. They are allowed to run free in the garden over the daytime, even with everyone at work/school.

Recently, a neighbours cat has shown interest in the rabbits, so understandably next door is worried about this and has decided to make the garden 'safe'. The plan, as we were told it, was it put anti cat spikes on their shed and the shed next door (not ours, the other side). I thought it was weird at the time, thinking just having them on the shed wouldn't do anything but didn't say anything.
Next thing I get a message a couple of weeks ago to say the workmen are coming, could they access the shed from my garden. I said no problem, just to tell me when they needed to come in and I'd put the dog inside, as I wasn't working that day. I double checked that they were just going on the shed, and they said yes!
I was putting some stuff away upstairs and looked out the window, and noticed the workmen had put the spikes all round the top of the fence on their other neighbours side, and the back, and that they were now measuring the fence on my side. So I went out, and asked if they were planning to put them on our fence, he said yes, that's what they'd been paid to do. He said 'well that halts my next question, as I was going to ask if we could put them on your side of the fence, as it is the flat side'
I explained that I'd been told they were just going on their shed, not the fences, and as the fence is under our ownership, we weren't happy about them being on there at all, let alone our side, especially as we hadn't been asked.
The workman was fine, said no worries, they'd pack up and let the neighbour know and that as the fence is ours, they couldn't continue.

The neighbour messaged the same day, asking us to reconsider and at least think about it.

Fast forward to this weekend, where after us having reiterated our point that we didn't want them on our fence. We explained that we don't like how they look, don't want the screws coming through to our side, and also don't think that they are actually going to fix the problem. We've now had a barrage of stroppy messages blaming us for the money they spent on materials, that the rabbits now can't run free because it's not safe and that we've ruined their lives.

So, AIBU to think that having rabbits running around the garden, regardless of cat spikes, is a bad idea? That we're not dicks for not wanting spikes on our fence? And that they should have been honest from the start?

Thank you to anyone who got this far 😂

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ChilliBandit · 19/09/2022 21:03

Rabbits on astroturf?! They’ve ruined the rabbit’s lives themselves. What if they eat all that plastic? That is really cruel the more I think about it.

StridTheKiller · 19/09/2022 21:04

Won't stop birds eating or menacing them. Bellends.

Creepymanonagoatfarm · 19/09/2022 21:06

Keep your phone handy op. Videos of dcats prancing over such spikes is hilarious! It won't deter any.
The weather /rain will probably kill off the rabbits anyway..
They aren't decent people if they haven't provided appropriate accommodation for their bunnies.

whatstheproblemguys · 19/09/2022 21:07

Also, just to be very clear in case anyone thinks I'm drip feeding and going to drop a massive revelation, we don't have a cat and never have.
The cat in question is from over the road.

Their issue is purely that they say the cat enters their garden from our side now that they have spikes on the other 2 fences, whether that's over the back and onto their shed (which there aren't any spikes on) or over our fence.

I've not seen the cat in our garden during the day which is probably because we have a dog who has access to the garden in the day, and next door says their camera picks it up coming from our side, especially at night.

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Exasperatednow · 19/09/2022 21:07

Tell them to make their rabbits, house rabbits.

Surely they should have thought of all this before getting rabbits.

EfficientDynamics · 19/09/2022 21:08

I thought this was a weird post and then found out they haven't even got grass, wtf

OldEnoughToHaveReadBunty · 19/09/2022 21:09

They are crazy for more than just thinking they can attach spikes to your property!

Do foxes & large birds respect these spikes?

As others have said, they need a safe run for them unless they are in the garden supervising.

whatstheproblemguys · 19/09/2022 21:11

Creepymanonagoatfarm · 19/09/2022 21:06

Keep your phone handy op. Videos of dcats prancing over such spikes is hilarious! It won't deter any.
The weather /rain will probably kill off the rabbits anyway..
They aren't decent people if they haven't provided appropriate accommodation for their bunnies.

They still roam the garden in the winter, but they open the shed door for them to have respite from the weather, which last year caused rats to be frequenting their garden shed and hutch (hence the comment in my op about pests).

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whatstheproblemguys · 19/09/2022 21:12

Exasperatednow · 19/09/2022 21:07

Tell them to make their rabbits, house rabbits.

Surely they should have thought of all this before getting rabbits.

They did this for a while when they had a ray problem but they couldn't stand the smell in the house.

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Wrinklydinkly · 19/09/2022 21:12

I had free range bunnies and cats. The bunnies had a big long run for safety when I was out or busy,and roamed around when I was there. We also had a bunny friendly staffy ,who wouldn't tolerate any strange predators eyeing up her fluff babies .

whatstheproblemguys · 19/09/2022 21:14

Wrinklydinkly · 19/09/2022 21:12

I had free range bunnies and cats. The bunnies had a big long run for safety when I was out or busy,and roamed around when I was there. We also had a bunny friendly staffy ,who wouldn't tolerate any strange predators eyeing up her fluff babies .

See, this is sensible! I suggested a run, but was told that they shouldn't have to be in a run, they should be able to make their garden safe.

Their rabbits are out all day with nobody there as they work full time and the kids are at school. They just have a camera on the garden to check on them.

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Chocolatesandroses · 19/09/2022 21:18

Hoover it up with the rabbit poo I heard it all now 😂😂😂 ffs that’s disgusting

Georgeskitchen · 19/09/2022 21:18

YANBU. The safety of their rabbits is not your problem. Small rabbits are in peril from many predators and as PP pointed out, spikes won't prevent the airborne ones!! 😉😉

Bergamotte · 19/09/2022 21:23

whatstheproblemguys · 19/09/2022 21:14

See, this is sensible! I suggested a run, but was told that they shouldn't have to be in a run, they should be able to make their garden safe.

Their rabbits are out all day with nobody there as they work full time and the kids are at school. They just have a camera on the garden to check on them.

They could "make their garden safe" by basically constructing a garden-sized run. Well, a little bit smaller than the garden to leave a path round the edges of the fence.
Would stop the rabbits chewing the fences (that can't be good for them if the wood is treated) and be much more effective protection against hawks, foxes, cats etc.

Nat6999 · 19/09/2022 21:25

Why don't they house their rabbits in the shed & have a secure run with a roof of wire netting on it?

Narwhaleahoy · 19/09/2022 21:27

YANBU.
I have neighbours who had the plastic spiky fence things fitted. They also have a massive, very scary to humans, German Shepherd dog. My tiny cats just walk along the top of the fence and sneer. My neighbours now phone me to complain the cats bully their dog. Cats are very adaptable and spikes will not faze them at all!

katkit · 19/09/2022 21:29

Yanbu. Havent they heard of sparrow hawks and foxes?

ChilliBandit · 19/09/2022 21:32

@katkit - we have a large population of red kites. The rabbits would be toast in hours.

whatstheproblemguys · 19/09/2022 21:32

Nat6999 · 19/09/2022 21:25

Why don't they house their rabbits in the shed & have a secure run with a roof of wire netting on it?

In the winter they put the hutch in the shed, but leave the door open so they can run around the garden if they want to.
I suggested getting a run, and their exact words were: 'why should they go in a run when we can make the garden safe. I just find this really unkind, but no worries, the rabbits will just not be able to have the life they had before and I’ve wasted money I can’t really afford paying for half a job and materials.'

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mondaytosunday · 19/09/2022 21:33

They can put a net over their garden. I've see this to prevent cats from getting out of a garden, so it must prevent them getting in.

whatstheproblemguys · 19/09/2022 21:34

Narwhaleahoy · 19/09/2022 21:27

YANBU.
I have neighbours who had the plastic spiky fence things fitted. They also have a massive, very scary to humans, German Shepherd dog. My tiny cats just walk along the top of the fence and sneer. My neighbours now phone me to complain the cats bully their dog. Cats are very adaptable and spikes will not faze them at all!

I said this too. That the cat will just get round the spikes if they really want to. It's a young, very agile cat.

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bagboo · 19/09/2022 21:36

LimpBiskit · 19/09/2022 20:49

Buy a pet fox

😂

whatstheproblemguys · 19/09/2022 21:36

mondaytosunday · 19/09/2022 21:33

They can put a net over their garden. I've see this to prevent cats from getting out of a garden, so it must prevent them getting in.

I haven't suggested this, but can imagine that I'll get the 'why should I when I can put spikes on the fence' response.
Ill suggest it if they come back to me.

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Londonderry34 · 19/09/2022 21:38

Worried about them. Rabbits?

whatstheproblemguys · 19/09/2022 21:40

katkit · 19/09/2022 21:29

Yanbu. Havent they heard of sparrow hawks and foxes?

They have been running free for close to 2 years now without actually being got by anything. Rats tried to get them last year, and now this cat.
We do have kites in the area, and buzzards, so I guess it's only a matter of time before they notice and they have birds as a problem too!
They can't say I didn't try 🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️

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