To find some language offensive about the funeral?

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Out at the pub tonight and talk turns to the queens funeral.

Im not an ardent royalist or anything but I will be watching as a historical event and in recognition of the queens service.

My friend is very left wing and said ‘I won’t be watching, fuck that,, fuck the monarchy, I won’t be watching to save the electric’. (This is someone who does not have to count the pennies).

AIBU to say this was a bit offensive, and a simple ‘I won’t be watching, it’s not for me’ would have been fine and respectful to people who do want to watch,

It almost seems as though being offensive is ‘cool’.

Meh I wouldn't have been but I have similar sentiments. I find the monarchy pretty sickening. Every picture I see of that ridiculous crown sitting on the coffin of someone that believed that god chose them to rule over all us lesser beings I feel angry that everyone continues to go along with this and support it. I was republican before but this last couple of weeks I feel very anti monarchy.

It's not a 'hatred thought [sic]' though is it, it's a legitimate political opinion that you don't happen to agree with.

You completely agree with some made up statement about billions being spent on a funeral?

There’s no billions spent.

The State Funeral isn't costing billions. 🙄

UK State Funerals are rare - last one was in 1965 for Churchill.

You do realise that anger and strong language, and opinions delivered in short comments rather than long-winded arguments, are not actually in any way evidence of low intellect, right? Sometimes a short, pithy comment is what is wanted.

Totally agree.

Possibly not billions, but certainly hundreds of millions of pounds. You should be more worried that every other part of the post is absolutely spot on.

Totally agree. Regardless of peoples feelings about the monarchy it seems people just like to be rude and nasty.

I left a couple of WhatsApp groups over it.

Lots of people get born into wealth. Not me, admittedly, but singling out one person for vitriol is a bit daft.

Bad timing for a Bank Holiday though.
October half term would be better.

Speaking as a Woke,Remoaner, atheist, Republican

His ancestors got a lot of their wealth by stealing it from other people and ultimately claiming parts of the UK as their own by conquering it.

And then decide that they are going to be Head of State forever.....

While the view that criticism of the monarchy amounts to rudeness is ridiculous, I do respect your way of dealing with the situation here. You evidently understood that the issue and the responsibility for dealing with it were both yours, and you took action yourself. There are a great many pro monarchists who could learn something from that.

The state, the establishment and the monarchy have really overplayed their hand here. A backlash is coming for Charles and he is highly unlikely to ever have the respect or near-universal acclaim his mother had. Time for a change.

Like you I’m not a royalist, if given a choice I would vote for a Republic. But I recognise the Queen for a lifetime of duty and will be watching.

I think the media does the Royal Family no favours in how all-consuming the coverage has been. People who at the start of the mourning period weren’t really bothered have had it foisted upon them in every channel, every newspaper and it’s all too much.

There are other things going on in the world. The UK is not at the centre of the world and it is a bit sickening. The Speaker of the Commons saying it was the most important event the world will ever see for example is ridiculous and overblown.

I think the media does the Royal Family no favours in how all-consuming the coverage has been. People who at the start of the mourning period weren’t really bothered have had it foisted upon them in every channel, every newspaper and it’s all too much.

This is true. That said, I've some sympathy with the ones who get state funding in particular because the Tories would have their guts for garters if they were seen not to be giving it sufficient prominence. In addition, it's much better for the government if we're all distracted by this, because none of the other domestic news that might otherwise be reported on is going to be positive. The Beeb and Channel 4 will know that.

There are probably going to be quite different factions playing out wrt coverage in the next couple of weeks. The royals themselves would be better off trying to fade gracefully into the background for a bit, given that there's a limit to how long this process can be imposed on the country without more obvious and visible dissent. But the government will want to ride the death for as long as possible.

Well, if she'd said that to one of the Queen's family then yes, I'd agree it was offensive. But assuming you're not a relative or close friend then no I don't think it was.

The enforced group think and mourning is what is pushing some people to be more blunt about their views. I'm one of them - not a fan of the royal family. Also not one to speak ill of the dead and she was probably one of the better ones. But the wall to wall whispery we all loved her what a Saint she was now let's do a one minute silence now let's stand in a queue for 14 hours to show respect thank you for your service ma'am. All services must be closed so we can mourn as there is only one appropriate feeling and respinse. Enough already! Thank fuck for Netflix.

They're mostly about people trying to demonstrate how middle class they are and sneering at anything they deem "common" or "chavvy". Everything from cake smashes to where you put the fruit bowl.

You can draw your own conclusions.

Like it or not, this is a huge boost for Britain, we are centre stage and there is no other country, not one, that does these events as well as us. The whole world is watching this, in some part to see how it is (and should be) done.
If you aren’t proud, there is something wrong with you.

Absolutely this.
I'd love five Elizabeth days a year-speaking as another Woke,Remoaner, atheist, Republican.

But during term time of course as I'm a teacher!

I'd rather have all this than think about the lamentable recently chosen cabinet.All the posters spewing vitriol have a wonderful alternative....people who were actually elected and chosen. If they aren't watching they'll have missed Mogg in his top hat. Haven't caught a glimpse of Mad Nad though.

I heard Andrew Marr on TV recently saying that constitutional monarchy needs to repeatedly make a case for its existence. He thought that this was King Charles' priority now - to make the case for monarchy. And he said that it's delicate and difficult.

So I think this is what's playing out here and in the pub in OP description. In a sense a monarchist should welcome this type of challenge as it could make the monarchy safer if they survive the challenge. It will probably mean the monarchy evolves if it is to survive. If the King uses his privilege to do good work on climate then people will be more positive towards the monarchy. I guess we shall see.

But at the same time there are a lot of people going on about how fabulous the queen was and all they can say is that she was 'nice' or reminded them of their granny. What's the difference between that view and the anti-monarchists? It's an equal measure of ignorance and lemming behaviour.

Yes I think it's offensive and disrespectful but I find left wing very political people very offensive in general.

It's very symbolic the Monarch's coffin lies on a gun carriage and the military play such a huge role in the ceremony - behind the power is an iron fist of the state at whose head they reign. Indeed the armed forces pay allegiance to the Monarch, not the state.

Long Live the King
Long to rule over us......

I wonder if you could get a pacifist as a Head of State?

Someone who refused to be associated with the military in any form...

Or even....an atheist?