To find some language offensive about the funeral?

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Out at the pub tonight and talk turns to the queens funeral.

Im not an ardent royalist or anything but I will be watching as a historical event and in recognition of the queens service.

My friend is very left wing and said ‘I won’t be watching, fuck that,, fuck the monarchy, I won’t be watching to save the electric’. (This is someone who does not have to count the pennies).

AIBU to say this was a bit offensive, and a simple ‘I won’t be watching, it’s not for me’ would have been fine and respectful to people who do want to watch,

It almost seems as though being offensive is ‘cool’.

Will “we”? I thought Truss was planning to reduce taxation, not increase it. Neither today’s funeral nor next year’s coronation will mean a penny less in your bank account or mine.

This about sums it up for me. The whole fucking shitshow offends me.

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Do you mean cousins went into an institute in 1930 and were reported as dead by 1940? What did you expect the Queen to do when she was a child? Or to even know what was happening?

Is there proof the Queen even knew until much later? At which point moving them may have cause more harm than good.

Many of their own family didn’t know they were alive. You do realise this was common at the time? It wasn’t just the Royal Family that did. Sadly, it wasn’t really considered wrong to do these things.

There’s lots to criticise. So not sure why we need to make things up.

I just think a lot of it is brainwashing. I watched a documentary on N Korea. The people there hero worshiped the president. You can guarantee there'll be mass hysteria when he dies. Its bizarre.

Of course, we’re exactly like North Korea, ffs. Brainwashing because people have different opinions, oh superior one whose brain somehow escaped the national laundry?

It's about respect really. There's time for the monarchy/no monarchy discussion in the future. But someone has just died. Regardless of whether you like or agree with her position in life, have the decency to wait until she's buried. Others are grieving.

There's nothing superior about just thinking outside of the box. Also I've read the book by Norman Baker. I think a lot of royalists would think differently if they read it.

I think if we all stopped thinking there was a right to never be uncomfortable or offended we'd all get along a lot better and be a bit happier

You recognise that many North Koreans must show they idolise the President by their actions, expressions and deeds, and if they slip up in any way they and their entire family will be sent to re-education camps - or killed?

Forced adulation is not comparable to an activity that is completely voluntary. There are plenty of threads and thousands of posts on MN disagreeing with the monarchy and joining the queue; this could not even occur North Korea. That you have the freedom to agree or disagree with the monarchy and/or government of the day and even express it is something you shouldn't take lightly.

Who is us? How embarrassing

I would suggest she was probably trying to be offensive. And that's ok. I wouldn't be offended because I agree, to a certain extent. She has every right to believe and say what she wants, she's not hurting anyone or inciting violence.

The idea that the Queen was a sweet, innocent old granny is utterly baffling. Here is a woman who was incredibly well travelled and famously politically engaged, who saw so very much history from the most privileged of positions, and who knows all the state secrets she wanted to know - innocent she was not.

Absolutely this! It’s so shameful yet so many people seem happy to just go along with what’s happening.

They should have banished the monarchy as soon as the Queen died. Way too much money get’s spent on them when the rest of the country is suffering

Since when did HMQ want to be seen as a little sweet old grandma? I don’t agree with that at all.

King Charles gives his entire income and received about 30% back as sovereign grant.

Leftie republicans are a bitter and sour-faced bunch of moaners, who seem to want to suck the soul out of this nation.

Yes I'm not saying the two countries are in any way comparable but people over there do feel genuine love (or what they think is love,) for their leader. Their grief when he dies won't be forced. They hold him in high esteem, even if they're frightened of him. They've known nothing else, not looking too deeply into why they love him, that's where the comparison is.

Not remotely interested in watching it, disgusted by the amount of £££ wasted on it - but I don't choose to have such foul mouthed friends.

I share your friends sentiment and I've really tried to work out this week why it pisses me off so much, because it does really piss me off.

Im normally a live and let live sort; I don't care what people do with their time as long as everyone involved is happy with it, but this...this 10 days of mourning...it's just so frustrating, and I think this is why:

We've been through an horrific few years, some more than others, but nonetheless very few of us would've escaped the impact of covid on some level. On top of that we've had the anxiety of Brexit, the crippling fuel costs, food prices rocketing, nhs crumbling...basically, it's hard to not feel shit about the current situation. We've had the government trolling us for the last few (12 ) years, telling us to comply with their rules, even if that means not seeing dying loved ones, or your business going under,etc yet their behaviour has been fucking outrageous, and still there's been no consequences. It hard to not feel powerless in this country and the 'elite' are just taking the piss out of 'us', in plain sight and we do nothing.

Now, the queen has died we are supposed to mourn her passing and celebrate her life, but for many of us the monarchy is no more than yet another symbol of inequality, oppression and extreme privilege and it feels actually obscene to celebrate it when some are going through the worst period of a generation.

Seeing those people line up for hours just makes me frustrated (sad even) because (to me) it simply symbolises acceptance of all the bullshit it represents; a subservient, docile nation waiting in line for more of the same.

In short, it makes me frustrated that there is no public appetite for change and we'll continue to have little ones going hungry whilst prime-ministers and monarchs pick out their new gold wallpaper. It's just shit.

(Though, I've had no sleep so I could just be cranky 🤷🏻‍♀️)

That diplomacy would just as easily be given by a president. Maybe better. World leaders would still come. As for the revenue, they cost us more than they give.

She is a friend, who was in the pub with you no less. Why on earth would she feel like she should have to censor herself in those circumstance?

I’m not a royalist, but the Queens passing has saddened me in some ways, and I may tune in today as it is as you say a historical event.

But absolutely abolish the monarchy and everything it stands for.

This ☝️ With bells on

Most folk in real life have been nothing but respectful in my experience.

It is reading this site, Mumsnet, that I have been especially offended by disgusting and disrespectful comments by its users.

I appreciate being left wing often means being an anti royal etc, but even our Labour Party have been nothing but respectful and gracious over her Majesty’s passing. Just a shame about some of their voters.

Honestly, some people should really hang their heads in shame.

I genuinely don’t get why people on social media are so annoyed that people do care or that people are queuing or do see her as family

Because it goes against their echo-chamber beliefs that the country is divided, that everyone is anti-monarchy, etc.

Its' too much for them when they get even a glimpse of reality

So everything wrong in the country is because of moaning republicans? 😲The soul of the nation is being sucked out by the elite hoarders of wealth.

I absolutely have no words.

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