To find some language offensive about the funeral?

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Out at the pub tonight and talk turns to the queens funeral.

Im not an ardent royalist or anything but I will be watching as a historical event and in recognition of the queens service.

My friend is very left wing and said ‘I won’t be watching, fuck that,, fuck the monarchy, I won’t be watching to save the electric’. (This is someone who does not have to count the pennies).

AIBU to say this was a bit offensive, and a simple ‘I won’t be watching, it’s not for me’ would have been fine and respectful to people who do want to watch,

It almost seems as though being offensive is ‘cool’.

What shows lack of intellect is saying "my heart is broken", a 86 year old woman dies and it's heartbreaking! You think that's show intellectual t?

It shows a total lack of empathy for anyone that has suffered heart break?

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You're not the gatekeeper of grief and you don't get to dictate how other people say they feel.

I'm certainly not heartbroken but the Queen's death has been deeply poignant to many people for lots of different reasons. I find some of the very emotional reactions hard to understand personally, but I'm not standing in their shoes and it's not for me to judge them. There are many reasons why someone may be deeply affected by the Queen's death.

@SpidersAreShitheads being heartbroken is ridiculous and over bearing and hysterical!

Maybe when these grief thief's have real heart break they'll understand the difference.

That's my opinion and you don't get to say what my opinion should be.

This.

*But… you’ve just proven my point? It was the “anti” folk shouting obscenities, trying to protest, throwing themselves at the coffin, generally being disrespectful and making scenes. Maybe that’s why they’ve been arrested?

Funny how these supposed hardened republicans are only coming out the woodwork now. Why choose the period of mourning to be so disrespectful? I’m sure if they were half decent they’d at least wait and organise proper protests. What did they think would happen holding up shitty signs to a man who’s mourning the loss of his mother?*

Protesters haven't been doing what you described though? Holding an anti monarchist sign isn't the same as calling you a sheep or half wit. Honestly, in my sphere, all I've heard is vitriol towards anyone expressing any anti monarchist sentiment.

And as to your why now question - because the cogs of the monarchy didn't wait for a period of discussion. They didn't wait for a man to mourn the loss of his mother to declare a new king.

Well said @Eddieisadick

I've got nothing against royals as individual people. In fact, I've felt really fucking sorry for them being paraded around in their grief for us to gawp at. They've been treated like animals.

I also don't like it when little old ladies die. That is sad. But the Queen/royals as an institution dying? Doesn't make me sad.

They're allowed to say it. It's a bit performative and if they knew how you felt it might have behooved them to rein it in, but it's how some people feel.

Johnny Rotten himself has said he doesn't want the tune to profit from her death.
Not entirely sure what the other pistols think .

Articulated much better than I could.

It’s just about respect isn’t it, luckily I don’t know anyone in real life who would belittle my views like that. Especially if she knew you were upset.

The royal family give more in soft diplomacy and revenue than they take. Watch the world leaders come together tomorrow, it’s no accident they’re all there for a lady who ‘didn’t really do anything’.
It’s just wilful ignorance at this point.

That's life for me.

The monarchy isn't even on my radar.

I just tolerate being.

I never saw the queen as this "little sweet old grandma" type figure at all. But that's how she wanted to portray herself. Far from sweet I'd say.

Just because you're offended doesn't mean you're right.

It's only the royalists who are being vocal with their performance grieving. The rest of us keep quiet, in public at least. I've not seen one single post on facebook threatening to unfriend for speaking highly of the queen. But vice versa. Absolute vitriol from the performance grievers I'm afraid.

Offensive is in the eyes and ears of the beholder!

You are offended by someone who has a different opinion and swore a bit? Goodness. No one feels the same about the Queen s death. Some may feel heart broken, other have mixed feelings sad she is gone but annoyed by the constant coverage , some couldnt give a shiny shit, some may have hated her and all she stood for. All are valid.

70 years service... blah, blah... You all know there are ex service men who gave up the best years of their lives and are now suffering terribly with mental health problems and are homeless, right?

I wouldn't be rude but I would abolish the monarchy tomorrow given the choice. The funeral and coverage has been excessive and more worrying is the behaviour towards those who have protested.

Your heart is breaking for someone who protected her disgusting son and paid the 9 plus millions to someone he has never met 🙄

Or dumped their disabled cousins in an institute and said they were dead .

I really struggle to understand the depth of feeling people have when someone they don't know dies e.g royals or celebrities. The people queuing 20 plus hours (one did it twice and one brought her dead mother's ashes with her) to walk past the coffin of someone they don't know. I just don't understand.

I agree with poster who said they feel a bit sorry for the royals - total lack of privacy and I feel don't have much control. I know they are rich but it seems a very gilded cage.

I dont find it offensive. I find it funny. Imagine a grown man being so worked up over something he doesn’t care about and won’t watch.

How much electric does a TV use a day?

I do think there’s a sense of ‘the more against the funeral I am, the better it makes me as a person.’

I genuinely don’t get why people on social media are so annoyed that people do care or that people are queuing or do see her as family. I lost my mum a few months ago. The Queen dying doesn’t make a mark on that. I haven’t watch much. I will watch the funeral. Definitely didn’t queue and don’t see the Queen as a big part of my life. But I don’t get the vitriol (especially on here) towards people who do.

They exceptionally cool have started parroting ‘forelock tugging, bootlickers’ as though they came up with themselves. There’s threads about how people have lost their minds because they took their kids, or think of the Queen like family. Again, not my point of view but not a sign someone has lost their mind. Thread upon thread that’s deleted where the super enlightened Op is telling people the Queen isn’t in there and people are paying their respects to an empty box, based on ‘I saw it twitter’ in an attempt push home ‘people who care are just stupid and wasting their time’

Theres the idiots who genuinely believe the funeral is costing the tax payer £6 billion so they can appear compassionate and wail ‘how many hungry children could be fed. Why don’t you care about that? I care, I care most’

There infinitely more people asking ‘am I allowed to do xyz’ on social media, than people actually saying your shouldn’t be doing xyz. There’s very few people saying anyone has to watch and to do anything else is disrespectful. But loads assuming people think that.

Anyone who does think going for run/not watching/ having a drink etc today is disrespectful are probably idiots over other things too and this is just the most recent thing they can use to judge people over. They will have been the ones reporting their neighbours for going for a walk, for over an hour, during lockdown.

Not sure why people feel the need to judge others for doing things that have nothing to do with anyone else.

But my experience is more the ‘anti funeral’ side that can’t let people get on with it.