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AIBU?

Period of mourning has sent some people batshit?

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LimpBiskit · 13/09/2022 17:45

I've noticed a ramping up of crazy on here over the last few days with some odd threads. Also more fratchy interactions on more balanced ones. AIBU that the queen's death has destabilised things a bit?

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gnilliwdog · 13/09/2022 23:23

@FromageRouge Ah, OK. I was shocked at the news and was in London, but was working incredibly long hours so missed out on the atmosphere. I was a bit puzzled that people I knew were going to lay flowers, even though I liked her and was sad. I didn't really understand why it was important to them, but nobody pressured me to go or even talk about it. Maybe I was too absorbed in my work to notice.

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Welshrarebitontoast · 13/09/2022 20:09

Mercury retrograde …

Ha… I’m glad you said it! 😆

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countrygirl99 · 14/09/2022 07:25

YaWeeFurryBastard · 13/09/2022 21:02

Some of us have done many of those things and the death of the Queen is a very poignant reminder that the era of people we loved very much is now over.

Nobody is asking you to be interested in the funeral, people are asking the vitriolic anti monarchists to give it a rest for a few days.

Shame Charles didn't wait until after the funeral to issue redundancy notices to long serving staff. Not too exhausted and grief stricken to do that was he.

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lightisnotwhite · 14/09/2022 07:36

Shame Charles didn't wait until after the funeral to issue redundancy notices to long serving staff. Not too exhausted and grief stricken to do that was he.

I don’t know what you mean by “redundancy notice”. Everyone has been told there will be movement from Clarence House as the King lives in Buckingham Palace. Some redeployment and some enhanced redundancies. The consultation period to discuss options will in fact be after the funeral.

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countrygirl99 · 14/09/2022 08:10

So you agree some will be made redundant and he didn't even have the grace to wait until after the funeral before kicking off the process.

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Septemberslooming · 14/09/2022 08:38

The redundancy notices and the silly behaviour over a leaking pen has helped me to take a more realistic view of the monarchy we're going to experience now. I'm very saddened by the death of the Queen but I'm actually glad we're getting these stories which allow us to take a more dispassionate view of our King in the midst of a mourning period.
If he can't control his behaviour over a pen I can more clearly understand his difficulty with personal relationships. The honeymoon phase will be over soon and it's going to be interesting to see how he performs.

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PerfectlyPreservedQuagaarWarrior · 14/09/2022 08:40

The honeymoon phase will be over soon and it's going to be interesting to see how he performs.

Absolutely.

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Diverseopinions · 14/09/2022 09:17

As long as nobody is trapped in a castle like Rapunzel, personal relationships won't be my concern, especially since, as an elderly grandfather, Charles doesn't make parental choices for little kids.

As long as the royals keep greeting and thanking volunteers; standing in for heads of state showing them the history, so Prime Ministers can get on running the country; thanking more volunteers again, I'll be happy.

If I were French, I'd be forced to think about Macron having to leave off running the economy to make a speech about the Queen and then go to a funeral in Britain. If France had a royal family, some of those ceremonial and symbolic duties could be shared around to both help the tourism industry and leave the government a bit more free to concentrate on policy rather than fostering goodwill.

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IHeardYa · 14/09/2022 09:39

@Bukhara Well said!

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Runnerduck34 · 14/09/2022 18:24

I think the media are whipping it up a bit .
It's an historic moment but she's an old lady who had an amazing life.
It's not exactly tragic, and can't truly understand why some people are are reportedly so devasted.
I think they are the minority tbh. Not much discussion at work. One person I know has been up to see it, we live 90 mins away so not huge journey .
Honestly a bit fed up at wall to wall coverage. Just switched TV on earlier and it was coverage of people shuffling past her coffin . Highlights are enough don't need to see every single person walk past!

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Skodacool · 14/09/2022 18:28

The queue has a thread on Twitter, it’s hilarious

twitter.com/hashtag/TheQueue?src=hashtag_click

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Skodacool · 14/09/2022 18:30
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LemonPledge555 · 14/09/2022 18:41

An ex colleague of mine who is a self proclaimed “non royalist” has berated a local cafe for giving their opening hours for Monday. Who is supposed to pay for the loss of income for a small business? And are we all supposed to sit in a dark room watching the coverage while we weep?

If people feel the need to grieve/pay respects that’s fine… but it’s not disrespectful to choose not to.

As others have said - can you imagine if we were to be watching a forced mourning period in (for example) N Korea? We’d be aghast at that kind of dictatorship.

The world has gone mad. Although I agree it’s probably related to more the HM passing. I’m very sad for their family. We lost my nan this year and she’s left behind a void and I can only imagine they are all very sad too.

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LemonPledge555 · 14/09/2022 18:49

*than HM

Not “the HM” 🤦🏼‍♀️🤦🏼‍♀️

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Legallyblonde77 · 14/09/2022 18:49

Bukhara · 13/09/2022 18:31

Yes, a definite strain of royal demise-inspired lunacy has emerged, but seems also to be in some vague way related to end of empire and to Brexit — sort of ‘Yes, we may no longer have an empire, have voted to make our country increasingly irrelevant and isolated off the back of an internal Tory squabble, and be governed by the venal, unqualified and incompetent, but by God, we do royal death ceremonial well!’

this 🖕

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Lapun · 14/09/2022 18:51

As a person of 88 I am not trying to grab any chance before I die. I am old enough to have had my first child on Coronation Day in 1953. I loved and admired the Queen and feel that some of you fail to realise how much the Monarchy means to the majority of the population. It is disappointing to read that so many here have little understanding of national grief. It will all be over by next Tuesday. I do believe in free speech and have no desire to shut Republicans up, though they will not get a fair hearing in these particularly sad days. Be patient. “This too shall pass” and it is but a short time of reflection.

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PerfectlyPreservedQuagaarWarrior · 14/09/2022 18:56

Lapun · 14/09/2022 18:51

As a person of 88 I am not trying to grab any chance before I die. I am old enough to have had my first child on Coronation Day in 1953. I loved and admired the Queen and feel that some of you fail to realise how much the Monarchy means to the majority of the population. It is disappointing to read that so many here have little understanding of national grief. It will all be over by next Tuesday. I do believe in free speech and have no desire to shut Republicans up, though they will not get a fair hearing in these particularly sad days. Be patient. “This too shall pass” and it is but a short time of reflection.

Equally, you show no evidence of understanding how the monarchy is viewed by other segments of the population. Perhaps if you could do more than simply be sad at people who hold different views to you and do not value the things you do, you might not have to live with that disappointment.

You're also being quite optimistic thinking it'll all be over by next Tuesday.

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Gingernan · 14/09/2022 18:58

I'm not a Royalist but,gosh I feel sad! Her coronation was one of my first memories,I'm a little younger than the King.
I'm at the stage where I sometimes do things out of character and part of me would like to be there on Monday. But the other part that says,you have already gallivanted to London this week and can't afford to keep doing it,will probably win. Also I don't think I could cope with queueing for hours, toilet issues etc.
People do get quite competitive about it, one lady in Edinburgh had queued up 7 times!
I was very moved watching the procession to Westminster Hall this afternoon...I'm particularly impressed with Princess Ann. What a woman!
I have to shake myself a little bit,sad though this is,end of an era,and the pageantry is pretty breath taking...it's time to think of the rest of us.

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amispeakingintongues · 14/09/2022 19:08

Since lockdown people have been psychologically trained to do/think/say the same and the way people have responded to yet another national tragedy is a result of this herd mentality we have now. I honestly have never heard half my associates even mention the queen until she died, yet now they feel obligated to practice performative mourning. Its all very bizarre, insincere and most of all - plain cringe.

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stillherenow · 14/09/2022 19:09

I'm enjoying Twitter too! The Queue is a 'thing'!

I do wonder if the parents who have taken their kids out of school to queue for 30 hours will get fined. Could be an expensive business. I'd not be going on national telly myself in that situation.

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Onthedowns · 14/09/2022 19:25

PerfectlyPreservedQuagaarWarrior · 14/09/2022 18:56

Equally, you show no evidence of understanding how the monarchy is viewed by other segments of the population. Perhaps if you could do more than simply be sad at people who hold different views to you and do not value the things you do, you might not have to live with that disappointment.

You're also being quite optimistic thinking it'll all be over by next Tuesday.

On the countary I think Lapun has put a well reasoned post. You seem to be one

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PerfectlyPreservedQuagaarWarrior · 14/09/2022 19:33

Onthedowns · 14/09/2022 19:25

On the countary I think Lapun has put a well reasoned post. You seem to be one

It isn't a matter of opinion that Lapun has failed to show any understanding of some people's views on the monarchy and the 'national grief' issue, though. There simply isn't any attempt at it. She did express quite nicely that she feels very sad at people who feel differently to her on the issue, but that's not the same thing as reasoning.

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notimagain · 14/09/2022 19:35

@Diverseopinions

If I were French, I'd be forced to think about Macron having to leave off running the economy to make a speech about the Queen and then go to a funeral in Britain.

Maybe true to some extent but of course just like the UK France has a Prime Minister as well as having a Head of State.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%89lisabeth_Borne

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Diverseopinions · 14/09/2022 19:44

Notimagain

The Head of State in France is more political than ceremonial. It's good that our royals are supposed to be non-political.

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