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Period of mourning has sent some people batshit?

237 replies

LimpBiskit · 13/09/2022 17:45

I've noticed a ramping up of crazy on here over the last few days with some odd threads. Also more fratchy interactions on more balanced ones. AIBU that the queen's death has destabilised things a bit?

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LaLaLouella · 13/09/2022 18:52

I think the whole country seems to be loosing its mind over this.

Our local FB has been full of frothing and demands that local business should shut, all fun stop, people MOURN! And now we have a stream of local businesses making long justification posts as to why they are daring to stay open. It all seems so extreme!

ValBiro · 13/09/2022 18:53

Not everyone who doesn't care much for the royal family would identify as a republican though or feel they are part of a 'movement', I know I don't.

I'm just "meh".

I think it's poignant @Questionaboutjoboffer , what you have said about a lot of people having died recently, and the fact that a lot of them would have been younger than 96 too.

jetadore · 13/09/2022 18:59

Nah, I disagree, people haven’t gone batshit, this has just given all the batshit people free reign to act out in public.

Sweetlikechocolate6 · 13/09/2022 19:00

I do like royalty and especially royal history but I feel a bit like I did during lockdown one that it’s all a bit intense and yet I liked the Queen and I find her passing sad .

DarceyG · 13/09/2022 19:02

LimpBiskit · 13/09/2022 17:45

I've noticed a ramping up of crazy on here over the last few days with some odd threads. Also more fratchy interactions on more balanced ones. AIBU that the queen's death has destabilised things a bit?

Maybe it’s because we are not getting another news, we all subconsciously know that once we emerge from mourning there will be a whole new load of crazy to deal with.

Diverseopinions · 13/09/2022 19:06

It's amazing how queues and queues of people are lining up and really large throngs of people have been photographed paying their respects. Is it a thirty hour wait, in some places, did I read?

I think with royalty, you never really can predict how popular they are going to be and how much affection will pour out - till you see, on the day, the crowds and the tears. It reminds me a little of the crowds when Harry and Meghan wed and the dear sentimental Britishers took them to their hearts.

Yes. I agree. It's cold, rainy weather, yet people are going out there to feel apart of something that matters to them. Love is a wonderful, crazy thing. But crazy in a lovely kind of way😍😍

Culldesack · 13/09/2022 19:08

INeverSawAPurpleCow · 13/09/2022 18:34

It does feel like people over 70 grabbing the initiative for the last time.

How bloody awful of that age bracket, to remind themselves their lives still matter.

abcd4321 · 13/09/2022 19:11

stillherenow · 13/09/2022 18:31

I notice it on telly. I can't watch any tv news now but radio is a bit better. Utterly bonkers people queuing to get a look at a coffin - 30 hours !!! And all the plastic wrapped flowers! It's just mindless hysteria now. I was interested the first 2 days as a moment of history but everything has gone completely nuts

Nuts and bonkers was what happened when Diana died....this is remarkably restrained in comparison and so it should be as despite the late Queen's dignity and long service, it lacks the tragic element of the death of a 35 year old mother of two in a car crash.

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 13/09/2022 19:11

Culldesack · 13/09/2022 19:08

How bloody awful of that age bracket, to remind themselves their lives still matter.

Gotta love (not) the casual ageism that pops up on here. I mean, 70??? they must all be on the verge of dementia, mustn't they? (sarcasm, before anyone jumps on me).

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 13/09/2022 19:12

abcd4321 · 13/09/2022 19:11

Nuts and bonkers was what happened when Diana died....this is remarkably restrained in comparison and so it should be as despite the late Queen's dignity and long service, it lacks the tragic element of the death of a 35 year old mother of two in a car crash.

I was wondering if a few people here were around in 1997. Weren't shops and pubs that said they weren't closing on the day of her funeral threatened? perhaps shops are trying to avoid any repetition of that.

Culldesack · 13/09/2022 19:14

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 13/09/2022 19:11

Gotta love (not) the casual ageism that pops up on here. I mean, 70??? they must all be on the verge of dementia, mustn't they? (sarcasm, before anyone jumps on me).

I know! Loving the contrast to these bloody toxic threads, when you see how the RAF have behaved. Military precision: class personified x

LePigeon · 13/09/2022 19:15

Culldesack · 13/09/2022 19:14

I know! Loving the contrast to these bloody toxic threads, when you see how the RAF have behaved. Military precision: class personified x

More hysteria. Nothing 'toxic' about this thread.

Kissingfrogs25 · 13/09/2022 19:18

The republicans are just so weirdly offended that everyone loved the Queen. I agree entirely unnecessary, they can just pass all the threads that are connected to HMQ death, but no, they choose to be so rude.

I try to ignore them, many sound positively unhinged.

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 13/09/2022 19:18

LePigeon · 13/09/2022 19:15

More hysteria. Nothing 'toxic' about this thread.

Ah, 'hysteria.' That word. But no, nothing toxic about this thread.

Antarcticant · 13/09/2022 19:21

This is a 'normal service has been interrupted' period. Normal service has been bleak recently, so people are taking refuge in this period of unreality.

gnilliwdog · 13/09/2022 19:22

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 13/09/2022 19:12

I was wondering if a few people here were around in 1997. Weren't shops and pubs that said they weren't closing on the day of her funeral threatened? perhaps shops are trying to avoid any repetition of that.

I was around. I didn't go to London, but the news showed there were a lot of people laying flowers there. There were also people who wanted some sort of statement from the queen about it, I think, so they were camped out in London for a while. I don't think things were closed, but it's a long time ago, before the days of social media, so the only coverage was the news. I think. There used to be a fantastic Indian restaurant in East London that was entirely decorated with murals of Diana, though, think I was last there in 2000 ish!

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 13/09/2022 19:23

Antarcticant · 13/09/2022 19:21

This is a 'normal service has been interrupted' period. Normal service has been bleak recently, so people are taking refuge in this period of unreality.

I think people are unsettled. It was obvious the queen was very frail and realistically, at 96 didn't have much time left, but it was a shock after seeing that last picture of her at Balmoral, still smiling and still working. I know for me this week has felt like a weird hiatus from real life.

Culldesack · 13/09/2022 19:23

LePigeon · 13/09/2022 19:15

More hysteria. Nothing 'toxic' about this thread.

No of course not. Just another wonderfully positive QE II thread, bringing out the vultures. Nice, slow round of 👏

whynotwhatknot · 13/09/2022 19:28

i know what you mean but im enjoying the cooler weather fed up of the heat

Culldesack · 13/09/2022 19:28

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 13/09/2022 19:23

I think people are unsettled. It was obvious the queen was very frail and realistically, at 96 didn't have much time left, but it was a shock after seeing that last picture of her at Balmoral, still smiling and still working. I know for me this week has felt like a weird hiatus from real life.

Agree with you. Surrealism.

greenhousegal · 13/09/2022 19:32

One of the things that made me pause and think was the speed with which Charles became King. All that running around and signing things (I won't mention the inkwells...), and travelling to the four corners, and the pomp, and ceremony to mark the immediate assumption of his role as Monarch.

It was as if someone said "quick Charles, get in there and be King NOW, before the peasants have time to protest at the castle gates".

And before anyone has a go, I am well aware that the King took over immediately on the death of ER2 and that is how it is and always was, but it just made me think anyway.

TheyreOnlyNoodlesMichael · 13/09/2022 19:33

Reminds me of the early days of the pandemic. Wild eyed hysteria and there is only one acceptable line. The radio, social media and the TV tell us what to think and woe betide anyone who deviates.

The buzzword during covid was "selfish", with this particular bout of madness its "disrespectful".

Boxowine · 13/09/2022 19:41

I do think that momentous events tend to exacerbate existing MH issues. Whether it's depression or trauma or conspiracy theories. But it has been somewhat nutso times for the past couple of years so I do expect people to be a little reactive. Add in a full moon and mercury in retrograde, better hang onto your hats.

I keep saying I feel bad for young people these days. These are not the carefree times of my youth.

TempsPerdu · 13/09/2022 19:42

One of the things that made me pause and think was the speed with which Charles became King. All that running around and signing things (I won't mention the inkwells...), and travelling to the four corners, and the pomp, and ceremony to mark the immediate assumption of his role as Monarch.

I’m feeling this too. I think they’re terrified of leaving any kind of vacuum that allows people to start questioning and asking themselves whether this whole monarchy lark is actually a good idea.

Personally I’m experiencing a real disconnect between real life (where largely no one is especially interested, beyond vague sadness in an ‘Oh dear, what a shame’ kind of way), and what I’m seeing in the media, which seems somewhat akin to mass psychosis. It’s all quite surreal.

Bukhara · 13/09/2022 19:45

greenhousegal · 13/09/2022 19:32

One of the things that made me pause and think was the speed with which Charles became King. All that running around and signing things (I won't mention the inkwells...), and travelling to the four corners, and the pomp, and ceremony to mark the immediate assumption of his role as Monarch.

It was as if someone said "quick Charles, get in there and be King NOW, before the peasants have time to protest at the castle gates".

And before anyone has a go, I am well aware that the King took over immediately on the death of ER2 and that is how it is and always was, but it just made me think anyway.

Well, it’s a fair point nonetheless. A hiatus might make quietly dispensing with the monarchy and pensioning off the remaining royals seem like a perfectly valid decision, especially in the face of a winter of grim fuel bills. A glance at Versailles will make it clear that royal palaces still pull in tourists without royalty inhabiting them. Much safer to capitalise on the (baffling) popularity of a dead queen and for her successor to take over immediately and give the whole thing an air of inevitability.