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AIBU?

Period of mourning has sent some people batshit?

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LimpBiskit · 13/09/2022 17:45

I've noticed a ramping up of crazy on here over the last few days with some odd threads. Also more fratchy interactions on more balanced ones. AIBU that the queen's death has destabilised things a bit?

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PerfectlyPreservedQuagaarWarrior · 16/09/2022 09:32

apintortwo · 16/09/2022 09:26

It isn't for you to decide

It isn't your place either

You are equating two very different things.

What you are doing is pronouncing on how people should behave now. The anti-monarchist equivalent of that would be to suggest that those of you who feel sad are not decent people, that this isn't the time or place when what we should actually be focusing on is what we want to focus on. Pointing out to you that you aren't entitled to dictate the terms of appropriate behaviour and discussion, ie what I am doing, is not comparable.

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countrygirl99 · 16/09/2022 09:58

@apintortwo are you prepared to pop round to my recently bereaved mum with alzheimers every time she wants to change channel or spend your afternoon finding stuff on Google/YouTube for her? Because she can't do these things anymore and I'm over an hour away, working and have plenty of stuff that needs doing including a load of re-organising project deliverables and updating websites because of this short notice bank holiday.

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MrsFezziwig · 16/09/2022 10:03

A mass grave has just been found recently liberated Isyum in Ukraine, early reports are suggesting it is going to equal those found in Bosnia. But no, we get Sue and Dave from Doncaster talking about the warm coats they have been wearing in a long queue.

News at Ten ran a story on Isyum last night. I’m not even a royalist but the ridiculous statements on here about being forced to watch news coverage or not daring to do anything other than watch the funeral on Monday are irritating me (not least because they’re generally accompanied by the sneering tone demonstrated above).
Oh well, back to my normal life where I’ve spent very little time discussing the queen’s death and have no idea what my friends will be doing on Monday.

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MarieIVanArkleStinks · 16/09/2022 10:07

@TheyreOnlyNoodlesMichael (liking the user handle. But .... they're worms!)

This is how I feel. People being arrested for silently protesting and the mob are baying for more of it!

A local ice-cream parlour posted on facebook last night that they will be opening from 1pm-10pm on Monday. The comments are insane! Apparently they should be boycotted and put out of business as punishment for their lack of "respect".

It scares the bejesus out of me, TBH. And I was interested by what the poster you were replying to said - can't use the 'quote' facility for a quote within a quote' - about criticality having completely gone down the pan. A truly captured institution is that of both compulsory and post-compulsory education. Anyone who teaches in a university will tell you trying to stimulate critical discussions in seminars is like trying to get a bell tone out of cotton wool, and it's the students now controlling the lecturers. Fairly present both sides of a current incendiary debate and if one student takes offence, publicity will start rolling and you could find yourself silenced, disciplined or at worst hounded out of your livelihood. There are several documented cases of it.

It's really bloody scary the way dissent is being silenced. I really think legislation against protests and two years of meek public complicity in the face of COVID - that bizarre parallel world in which you could be questioned as to your business if you went out in the car - has emboldened police. And this is the inevitable result.

They are not arresting people 'for their own safety', as some extremely gullible people have suggested. If so, why charge them? And these protestors have been charged, as were those who attended the Sarah Everard vigil.

I'm not a tinfoil hatter by any stretch of the imagination. But I can't help but think if there'd been an orchestrated, central government campaign to dumb down education, to quash critical thought, to the extent we ended up with a malleable population speaking in slogans and participating in 2-minute social media hates against dissenters - they could hardly have done a better job of it.

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MarshaBradyo · 16/09/2022 10:09

I’m getting news - Ukraine, mass grave, inflation figures and so on

I prefer this rate of news, I can easily block out Queen related as I wish and the rest doesn’t feel like it’s hammering bad news but I still know what’s going on

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DillonPanthersTexas · 16/09/2022 10:53

MrsFezziwig · 16/09/2022 10:03

A mass grave has just been found recently liberated Isyum in Ukraine, early reports are suggesting it is going to equal those found in Bosnia. But no, we get Sue and Dave from Doncaster talking about the warm coats they have been wearing in a long queue.

News at Ten ran a story on Isyum last night. I’m not even a royalist but the ridiculous statements on here about being forced to watch news coverage or not daring to do anything other than watch the funeral on Monday are irritating me (not least because they’re generally accompanied by the sneering tone demonstrated above).
Oh well, back to my normal life where I’ve spent very little time discussing the queen’s death and have no idea what my friends will be doing on Monday.

Well it's a good job I never suggested anyone was 'forced' to watch the news coverage of the Queen, as mentioned above I skipped over to Al Jazeera once it became apparent that BBC/Sky were still engaged in live rolling queue watch. I was merely pointing out the fact that the discovery of mass graves on European soil might have featured higher up the news agender this morning. My 'tone' is the general exasperation that the afore mentioned Sue and Dave's keep warm in a queue tips and what lunch Deborah might have in her bag is considered more news worthy then you know......war crimes and evidence that all men of fighting age have been forcibly conscripted as cannon fodder by the Russians

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MrsFezziwig · 16/09/2022 12:01

Well it's a good job I never suggested anyone was 'forced' to watch the news coverage of the Queen, as mentioned above

@DillonPanthersTexas I quoted your post with reference to your comment about Isyum. Then moved onto a separate point about statements in general on here. Sorry you’re not as important as you think you are.

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DillonPanthersTexas · 16/09/2022 12:22

MrsFezziwig · 16/09/2022 12:01

Well it's a good job I never suggested anyone was 'forced' to watch the news coverage of the Queen, as mentioned above

@DillonPanthersTexas I quoted your post with reference to your comment about Isyum. Then moved onto a separate point about statements in general on here. Sorry you’re not as important as you think you are.

A curious take. You referenced the 'tone' of my quoted post in the very next sentence after Isyum! So not exactly moving on to an entirely separate point.

Don't worry, me striving for importance on a MN thread is not really a life goal of mine so no need for apologies.

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MrsFezziwig · 16/09/2022 19:30

DillonPanthersTexas · 16/09/2022 12:22

A curious take. You referenced the 'tone' of my quoted post in the very next sentence after Isyum! So not exactly moving on to an entirely separate point.

Don't worry, me striving for importance on a MN thread is not really a life goal of mine so no need for apologies.

@DillonPanthersTexas

I didn’t apologise.

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IvorCutler · 16/09/2022 19:36

I am not in the uk but turned on bbc news earlier… they had a long segment about a woman queueing. She was told by security that the queue was closed. She was pissed off. She stayed in the queue… eventually she got her wristband. This was the news. What on earth is going on?

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AuxArmesCitoyens · 16/09/2022 20:01

The BBC is supposed to be impartial. It puts up a climate change denier every time it interviews a climate scientist for balance, FFS. Somewhere between a quarter and a third of the population are republicans - where is our balance? Why are our views not being given fair airtime by the national broadcaster?

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PerfectlyPreservedQuagaarWarrior · 16/09/2022 20:59

AuxArmesCitoyens · 16/09/2022 20:01

The BBC is supposed to be impartial. It puts up a climate change denier every time it interviews a climate scientist for balance, FFS. Somewhere between a quarter and a third of the population are republicans - where is our balance? Why are our views not being given fair airtime by the national broadcaster?

They know what the Tories would do if they even tried it.

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