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To not accept this holiday as I can’t afford the tip?

130 replies

SillyFood · 10/09/2022 18:56

I recently inherited some money and I used most of it to pay a large chunk of the mortgage but put £10k of it aside and have booked a proper holiday of a lifetime to Thailand in October for myself and dc. My aunt, who I inherited the money from had always made me promise I’d spend a chunk of it on a big treat for myself that I’d never normally do so that’s exactly what I’ve done.

DH and I are divorced but I’m still pretty close to his family. His SIL works in the travel industry and has very kindly been helping me organise this holiday. She’s booked us various excursions that I couldn’t work out how to do and got us some amazing discounts on hotels which I’m truly grateful for. When I first starting talking to her about it one of the things she suggested was a sailing charter. They looked absolutely amazing but, although I could just about stretch to the cost of the charter itself (about £4k 😱) she said that tips of 10-20% are pretty much expected so I ruled it out and booked other stuff instead. The trip is now pretty much completely booked, all excursions paid for or deposit down and it’s cost £8,200 so I’ve got £1800 left to spend when we’re out there.

Yesterday ex SIL phoned me up to say that ex MIL was going to be calling that afternoon and that she suspected she had some news that I wouldn’t like. Ex MIL calls me and tells me excitedly that she’s booked the sailing charter for us for the holiday as she really wanted to spoil her GC’s, she didn’t want to wait until she was dead for us to have a treat and that she knew we really wanted to do it but couldn’t afford it. I told her that we had everything booked now, that it was in a different part of the country to where we’ll be on the date she’s booked it and I didn’t know if I’d be able to get everything refunded/ deposit back. She brushed this aside and said she’d send me the link, that she’d paid for it and once I saw it then she knew that I’d love it.

The link is to a charter on a bloody super yacht. Looking at the prices I think she’s spent an absolute minimum of £10k on the 3 day charter. The original one we were looking at was sailing on a traditional boat, going to nature reserves and snorkelling. This is suggesting casinos, nightlife, possible firework displays for an extra £4k, a proper chef when my kids only eat beige food. Ex PIL are not rich. I do not know why they have done this. Even if I cancel the 3 nights accommodation that I’ve booked and rearrange the whole thing so that I’m in the place I need to be for this bloody boat I still need to cut back spending so I’ve got an extra £2-3k for tips. I am so grateful that she’s thinking of us but it is neither what I want to do or what I can afford.

I’ve tried speaking to her and she just isn’t listening. She’s adamant in doing it because I’m uncomfortable accepting such a large gift (which is a part of it tbh). SIL is going to try and speak to her but I don’t know if she’ll manage to get through to her. I don’t think I’m being ungrateful but I would genuinely rather she donate the money to charity than spend it on something that makes this holiday that I’m so looking forward to into something I don’t want.

OP posts:
SillyFood · 10/09/2022 18:56

And, yes, I know the amount of money I’m spending on a holiday is obscene but I’ve never done anything like this before, I won’t have chance to again and I really want to.

OP posts:
Hellocatshome · 10/09/2022 18:58

Oh God what a nightmare. Do you think ex DH would have much luck having a word with her?

NewBootsAndRanty · 10/09/2022 19:02

I don't get the tip thing - if she's paying for the cruise, how are you expecting to spend 20-30k in 3 days (based on 10%)?

Sunnyqueen · 10/09/2022 19:05

I think on this occasion you should really just do what you want to do, as you said this is a holiday of a lifetime you don't want to have any regrets. Your mil has jumped the gun, yes she's tried to do something but it was ill judged.. You are just going to have to explain as delicately and nicely as possible and hope she's not mad for too long.

itsgettingweird · 10/09/2022 19:09

NewBootsAndRanty · 10/09/2022 19:02

I don't get the tip thing - if she's paying for the cruise, how are you expecting to spend 20-30k in 3 days (based on 10%)?

Eh?

The tip for a 10k cruise would be expected to be 1-2k.

The OP has spent 8k on hen holiday from 10k she kept back from inheritance that went on her mortgage.

Where are you getting 20-30k from?

I think you just need to tell MIL straight.

Tell her if she really wants to spend 10k you'd be much happier with it going on another trip if a lifetime somewhere else or in a trust for your DCs.

mayapel · 10/09/2022 19:09

NewBootsAndRanty · 10/09/2022 19:02

I don't get the tip thing - if she's paying for the cruise, how are you expecting to spend 20-30k in 3 days (based on 10%)?

The grandmother has paid £10K for the charter and the tip expected from the crew (courtesy of OP) will be around 20-30% on top of this, which is £2K-£3K.

FacebookPhotos · 10/09/2022 19:10

Don't change your plans and don't go on the boat trip. This is so much money to spend on a holiday, and it sounds like it's a once in a lifetime trip for you. You absolutely must do what you wanted to.

It is unfortunate that her kindness is so misjudged in this instance, but that's not your fault.

NewBootsAndRanty · 10/09/2022 19:11

mayapel · 10/09/2022 19:09

The grandmother has paid £10K for the charter and the tip expected from the crew (courtesy of OP) will be around 20-30% on top of this, which is £2K-£3K.

Ah, got it. Thanks, couldn't get my brain around it!

mayapel · 10/09/2022 19:11

Sorry 10-20% (so £1k-2k)

Yesmate · 10/09/2022 19:12

Just don’t go on it. Tell her you have booked your trip and excursions, you chose not to do a charter and you don’t want to change your plans.

YellowTreeHouse · 10/09/2022 19:15

Just don’t tip. It doesn’t matter how “expected” it is.

Hotandbothereds · 10/09/2022 19:16

She’s batshit - who on earth books a trip for someone like that without checking!!

You will have to be straight with her - not only do the dates not work but there are additional costs involved and she needs to cancel the booking.

Did she just book it herself, not via SIL?

Hotandbothereds · 10/09/2022 19:17

YellowTreeHouse · 10/09/2022 19:15

Just don’t tip. It doesn’t matter how “expected” it is.

But OP isn’t in the right part of the country for when it’s booked either, I wouldn’t rearrange a whole holiday around something I didn’t even want to do.

merryhouse · 10/09/2022 19:18

Just don't go.

She's spent the money whether you go or not, and you don't want to do it. So don't.

Ilikewinter · 10/09/2022 19:19

Wow, well I hope she can get a refund!.
Youre going to have to be really firm with her on this one and probably she will take it really badly as it sounds like she thinks shes brought you the best gift ever.

ArialAnna · 10/09/2022 19:20

I would keep concern about tips out of the conversation as that will just make ex MIL think you actually do want to go, but are worried about extra costs.

"Ex MIL I want to stick to the plans I've already made, as the kids and I are really looking forward to the excursions we have booked, but very happy to do a different holiday with you another time" Repeat as required.

QuestionableMouse · 10/09/2022 19:20

NewBootsAndRanty · 10/09/2022 19:02

I don't get the tip thing - if she's paying for the cruise, how are you expecting to spend 20-30k in 3 days (based on 10%)?

10% of 10k isn't 20k. It's 1000 but that could go up depending on service, spending on excursions and such.

Laquila · 10/09/2022 19:22

Oh my word. I wish I had some good advice for you but I just wanted to sympathise. I don't do very well with things being taken out of my control at the moment and I'd find that really really stressful.

MichelleScarn · 10/09/2022 19:24

YellowTreeHouse · 10/09/2022 19:15

Just don’t tip. It doesn’t matter how “expected” it is.

Always wondered what would happen if you didn't tip in such situations, would you be asked to leave the holiday, could staff refuse to serve you? 😬

Seemslikeaniceday · 10/09/2022 19:26

@SillyFood i hate to say this but I think £10k is the starter price and you may have to pay for fuel, food, alcohol etc (all at a premium) and the tip is a % of the total figure.

I would ask SIL to investigate and produce a full breakdown of all the costs including tip. You can then send this to your MIL and state you just cannot afford it.

Seemslikeaniceday · 10/09/2022 19:28

@SillyFood £10k one a trip of a lifetime is not unreasonable. Your Aunt would be delighted, have a fantastic time.

MarmiteCoriander · 10/09/2022 19:30

I'm confused! Is the sailing thing in Thailand? Its absolutely not customary to tip in Thailand, so I have no idea why SIL would think this? Has she ever been been there, or is the sailing in another country???

I, personally, think you ABU to have any involvement with SIL or your ex's family to have booked the trip! I've been to Thailand multiple times and would have booked flights myself, and excursions once there- for MUCH cheaper than you would book from the UK. Clearly you either didn't want to book yourself or you get on very well with SIL? But she has clearly talked to MIL about your plans which I would think is a breach of customer confidentiality.

I'd stick to your own plans. Your money- your holiday. Have a fabulous time.

ChimChimeny · 10/09/2022 19:31

ArialAnna · 10/09/2022 19:20

I would keep concern about tips out of the conversation as that will just make ex MIL think you actually do want to go, but are worried about extra costs.

"Ex MIL I want to stick to the plans I've already made, as the kids and I are really looking forward to the excursions we have booked, but very happy to do a different holiday with you another time" Repeat as required.

this is Good advice, maybe text or email it to her as she isn't listening when you tell her verbally.

and £10k is a decent xhunk.of money but not for such an amazing trip. there are people who spend that on a trip to Disney world!

Arenanewbie · 10/09/2022 19:34

She’s batshit - who on earth books a trip for someone like that without checking!!
Yes, this^ The financial circumstances aside how can you book even a day trip for someone? It’s absolutely ridiculous. If you have plans you have plans, this is how it works in real life.

Hohofortherobbers · 10/09/2022 19:35

She needs to get her money back! That could pay for an amazing holiday for you all another year.... She could even join you?