How did she decline so rapidly?

[Maggiethecat]

Not really trying to know the cause of the queen’s death although I have wondered but can’t get my head round that picture of her greeting Liz Truss to her death 2 days later.

Initially thought it must have been something acute like a stroke or heart but then it seems like she has been ailing (haven’t really taken note, other than palace statements of mobility issues).

Perhaps she had been bedridden for weeks and made a huge effort on Monday to fulfil her last duty but I’m inclined to think had that been the case more of her family would have been near.

You didn't know that excessive smoking and drinking was bad for you before this? How odd....

For sure the Royals has been prepared for this.
This picture still gets me though ;

😂You can't be serious

Dont be so ridiculous!

It was quite visible to me that the writing was on the wall for the Queen by that picture with Liz Truss, I discussed it with my family at the time. I did not expect her to die immediately though, just that she would probably have not more than a year, probably less, definitely wouldn't make 100.

I think it's useful to talk about death, including what things like bruises mean, shrinking into yourself, difficulty holding your head up or whatever.

My husband died also @TheClockEnd , hugs to you, knowing more about the dying process and seeing several people die has been helpful for me in many ways, I feel more at ease with them and also more at ease in knowing what will happen to me (I hope I am as lucky as the Queen in a relatively quick death).

There is absolutely no way they would photoshop it, it would easily shown to be photoshopped by experts. You couldn't make it completely perfect when it would be dissected by the whole world.

So, what… seeing Liz Truss becoming PM did her in? Yeah, I buy that 😂

No one dies of old age or ‘it’s their time

Actually my father's death certificate has "frailty of old age" on it. He also had Parkinson's, but that wasn't considered to be the only cause of death. He was 93.

They may put the same on the Queen's death certificate so nobody knows if she had cancer etc until the files are opened at some point.

I think it speaks volumes that people decide they know the details of other people's lives like this. It is bonkers.

The Paddington picture isn't very well drawn and is mawkish. The Queen didn't wear those kind of heels in her more mature years. And did Paddington die? Just find that one weird.

As to the reason for her death, I am reminded of the reply when I asked my parents/grandparent when I was little how an older person had passed away. "Ran out of breath," was usually the reply.

Tbh, the prospect of having to have regular meetings with Liz Truss would be enough to make me lose the will to live.

My maternal grandmother dies aged 68 - she had been in the rudest of health having given up smoking ten years earlier. She was watching her favourite opera on TV, peeling an apple to eat (she had dentures) and her heart stopped. It couldn't have been more peaceful for her! Post mortem revealed her arteries were very clogged up and it could have happened at any moment but it was a perfect way to go - we like to think that grandad had come to collect her as they had been apart for too long and she missed him hugely.

My paternal grandmother declined over about 20 years, ending up doubly incontinent and in a home aged 98, bedridden for several weeks, eventually breathing her last after three days of my father sitting at her bedside waiting for that last minute.

@randomsabreuse I had this exact thought.

It happened with my mum. Although getting on in years, apart from minor health problems, she was very strong. One day we went shopping and she was completely fine. Dropped her home, gave her a big hug, chatted later that night on the phone and then the following morning, just like that, she was gone. Went for a snooze, laid down, shut her eyes and it was over. Her heart just stopped.

I am currently watching my own mothers rapid decline, the doctors keep sending her for 'tests' which I frankly feel are a waste of time, she is old, frail, becoming confused, has lost a huge amount of weight very quickly (and she wasnt big to start with) she is not enjoying life, she can no longer do the things that made her happy. This may sound callous, she is my mum and I love her but I am hoping that this decline speeds up and that she is not here for much longer, I hate seeing her 'lose' herself. Btw, we only have to help her stand up, really gently, and she bruises where we touch her, her skin is paper thin.

I believe she is dying of old age, just like the Queen.

My husband died also @TheClockEnd , hugs to you, knowing more about the dying process and seeing several people die has been helpful for me in many ways, I feel more at ease with them and also more at ease in knowing what will happen to me (I hope I am as lucky as the Queen in a relatively quick death).

Yes this.

Well, this from The Times today cheered me up. I'm glad she was still enjoying life right til the end, despite obvious physical problems:
"A clergyman who spent last weekend with the Queen said that she had been “full of fun” and the “life and soul of things”.
The Rt Rev Dr Iain Greenshields, 68, stayed with the Queen at Balmoral ... and had dinner on Saturday evening and lunch on Sunday afternoon with the Queen, the Prince of Wales and the Princess Royal. He told The Times: “It was a fantastic visit. Her memory was absolutely amazing and she was really full of fun.
“It came as a great shock to me when I heard she was gravely ill because she was in amazingly good form over the weekend.

Im never one for these things but my OH sent me that last night, really made me cry

What a bloody stupid thing to say

My own thoughts are that the Queen possibly had a fall yesterday morning or overnight and sustained a head injury . The bruising on her hand is fairly common for a frail 96year old and potentially she might have been taking anticoagulant for other medical issues. This is only a guess and not fact.

Funny enough my first thought at that picture was 'What the fuck happened to Paddington?!'

Hear hear

I also think that if she'd been struggling with end stage cancer (as some PPs have suggested), Harry would definitely have gone to see her. The fact that a visit wasn't scheduled suggests no one thought she was seriously ill, other than the usual sad frailties which come with being 96.

All we saw was a still picture. She could have been taken from her death bed to take that picture

That awful Colin Campbell woman hinted not so subtlety that she had cancer .