How did she decline so rapidly?

[Maggiethecat]

Not really trying to know the cause of the queen’s death although I have wondered but can’t get my head round that picture of her greeting Liz Truss to her death 2 days later.

Initially thought it must have been something acute like a stroke or heart but then it seems like she has been ailing (haven’t really taken note, other than palace statements of mobility issues).

Perhaps she had been bedridden for weeks and made a huge effort on Monday to fulfil her last duty but I’m inclined to think had that been the case more of her family would have been near.

Not sure how you can say that with such certainty. It could have been that, but it could also have been a cannula in the hand, or it could have been an everyday bruise. I’ve noticed a minor knock can cause a horrible purple bruise now I’m in my 50s…

Please tell me you’re not being serious.

Sorry to hijack your thread but I wanted to ask about the corgis. She bought a new puppy fairly recently I think. Last couple of years. Who will take them?

Prince Andrew is apparently taking them, I think he bought them for her.

I reay can't see that happening. They will be kept in the family, as the Queen would have wanted.

I like that theory @randomsabreuse and I am glad Boris has had the opportunity for yet more showmanship pulled from under his feet.

Very quick decline is a thing. Whilst unwell for years 2 days before my grandad died he had a fancy steak dinner, dessert and a couple of glasses of wine with my grandmother in a way he hadn't for years, 36 hours later he was dead. By the time the family gathered a few hours before his death he could no longer talk and could hardly move, a stark contrast to 2 days before. It can happen so quickly.

She's such a nobody she had to go onto I'm a Celebrity and even then nobody cared about her horrible opinions.

@Allgoodthings1 so if it was known she was very poorly why didn't her family get to her quicker it doesn't make sense.

My father was 86
No health issues
Good weight / non smoker
Walked and still cycled
Felt a bit poorly in the morning
Died that evening.
Cause of death was noted as a heart attack but it came from nowhere

An elderly body just has far less resilience to anything.

Following Philips death, I feel like she held out for her Jubilee but probably everything after that was 'waiting'.

Often not a lot - could be bruising from cannulation but could quite equally be as the result of leaking blood vessels caused by the ageing process and loss of elasticity of the skin and blood vessels. A lot of very elderly people get bruises for no apparent reason because their blood components change in % and they lose clotting factors as their bone marrow slows down production of new cells.

The fact that some of her family didn't get to her more quickly makes you think it was quick really.

If it was known Andrew and Edward would have been there surely? Not dashing to Balmoral by the end of the day.

She had Anne and Charles with her who appeared to be in Scotland 'waiting', how would you feel knowing that you were declining and all your family are sitting about in your house waiting for you to die

She may well have said,, just call people when its necessary

Or perhaps it was very much more sudden than people are thinking in that by the morning they thought she had a few more hours left

I've been happily chatting to a patient over lunch and by tea time I'm doing last offices.

I suspect that her decline was unexpectedly sudden, hence the family were largely unprepared.
I thought she looked so frail in the photo with Liz Truss, very pale but that wonderful smile still lighting up her face.
The bruise could have simply been from knocking her hand; I had a massive one like that (I’m on aspirin), I bruise very easily.
Bless her, what a inspirational woman.

Given that those dogs have their own room in the palace, have their sheets changed daily, meals prepared by a chef, and two footmen to look after them (doggie 1 and 2 apparently), I doubt that they will end up on the streets or in Battersea dogs home! They have better lives than the majority of us!

Andrew, Beatrice and Eugunie gave the Queen her latest puppy as a present, so I'd assume that one of them would take the dog if Charles didn't want to keep them. Though I'm sure he will.

Of course we're curious about the cause of her death, it's a very human response.
if we're told someone has died our response is generally along the lines of 'oh no! What happened? Were they ill? ' and so on, no matter how old the person was.
I wonder if she had heart problems, perhaps a minor heart attack some while ago, which affected her mobility and led to heart failure. Or, similarly, a minor stroke followed by mobility problems and then a further stroke.
I do think we should be informed, I really dislike all the lies and secrecy which have surrounded the royal family for far too long.
I think it was Prince Edward who let the cat put of the bag quite a few years ago; he told the press pack when he was asked about rumours of a royal engagement or similar and he replied 'you know you'll just be lied to, you always have been.'
(And don't get me started on the subject of royal wills!)

She had Anne and Charles with her who appeared to be in Scotland 'waiting', how would you feel knowing that you were declining and all your family are sitting about in your house waiting for you to die

We were all around my OH as he died over 10 days. We were waiting and we all knew including him. What else would you do?

I suspect that her decline was unexpectedly sudden, hence the family were largely unprepared.

Yes

You don't need to be bedridden for weeks to die at 96 ffs 😂

😂 don't worry, I'm sure they won't be turfed out to live out their days as street dogs.

Happened to my Great Grandfather. Very sudden he was digging his garden two days before!

guess I'm curious bc I might learn something from her death on how to live longer.I learnt from her sister's death that drinking/smoking excessively will send you to an earlier grave

I think we have all known for years that excessive drinking and smoking shortens your chances of a long life.

Genes (the Queen Mother was 101 when she died); privileged childhood; well nourished; no financial worries; access at all times to quality medical care; retaining hobbies and interests into old age...

Why should we be informed? Was the Queen a lesser being than any other citizen of the UK, that she doesn't deserve patient confidentiality?

This.

And it’s well reported that she hadn’t been up to normal duties a lot recently.
it’s not that sudden!