To be sad that Queen has died but can't wait for the sycophancy to be over

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I am no royalist but like many in the same position I am truly moved by today's historical news

It is a "once in a lifetime" moment for many of us and I am going to admit that despite strong Republican views I surprised myself by being knocked sideways by news

Not that it wasn't expected and that the Queen hasn't had a good life but by the sheer magnitude of what is happening

However other threads seem to be dismissing the fact that we can feel both - sadness that an elderly individual who was "known" to all of us has died and an unwillingness to join in the "grief jamboree".

I feel like I did when Diana died - I am struggling to recognise the grief others are manifesting and the absolute deferential attitude present here

I feel like this will just build and build and we will be exhausted by end of it

Fuck me, that corgi's got wings.

These are end times, lads.

Scenes from outside Buck P this evening

A bloody circus

That paddington bear thing is ridiculous. It is really insulting to reduce a complex, real woman who had her flaws and strengths like the rest of us, to someone that talks to stuffed animals. Do the media think we are children?

😂 a winged Corgi has made my day !

Not for me. I just find it fake, and annoying as fuck.

I've only told the kids to be prepared to be bombarded with mawkish shite and performative grief for the next three weeks. GCSEs out of the window so they can colour pictures of Good Queen Lizzie and write acrostic poems.

@Bretonbear it's not quite as good/bad as Captain Tom ascending to the NHS rainbow complete with walking frame but it's getting there.

We're in light-up Jesus territory on Facebook now just hours in. Literally anything goes.

You’re struggling to recognise the grief? So what? What’s it to you? I feel very sad about it and even teared up a bit but I’m not getting involved in what others are saying or doing on SM, simple really.

I feel the same, OP but am not going on about it to others as I get they don't feel the same. I'm not watching the news and I'm just carrying on with my normal life. I don't want to see people wearing black, reliving her life endlessly or anything so I'm just body-swerving it until it stops. I don't feel sad because I think she had a great death (who is up and about two days before like that. pretty impressive?) and an interesting long life and it's now over.

I agree OP. I find it strange that people feel such grief for someone they didn't know. You can feel sorry that a person has died and sad for those who loved that person but to actually mourn for a person you have only seen on TV is just bizarre

Well based on your rant about how weak you consider everyone to be, I could ask you the same - but hey ho. All good.

Its the end of an era, and with that comes some reminiscing. Possibly also some introspection on the changing cultural and historical landscape of this country?

That said, I'll leave the extremes of either the prostrate performance grieving or the brutal dismissal of anyone who might feel a little discombobulated, to those who feel it important to insist they're way is the only way!

Im just recognising that it's a moment in time to stop and think for a moment, that's all.

their not they're obvs

@Overshadowed

I'm so sorry for your loss today

I felt differently when Diana died because she was 36 with a 15-year-old and a 12-year-old. Now that really was a surprise and very tragic but again, I accept others feel differently.

Winnie the pooh is also in on the act now.

I wouldn't worry, people get bored easily. It'll be something else this week.

Wonder what our new gov will push through in the next 10 days though.

I thought BBC calling it a tragedy was a bit much.

My MiL was more measured. She's 88 and a royalist, and texted me "sad but inevitable!"!

I understand the symbolic importance of her passing, and that is I believe what people feel grief about. Her role was extraordinary, but objectively as a person she was probably not - at least no more than you or I or billions of others. She was no Shakespeare or Newton etc. So pay respects for sure and contemplate on how the UK has changed the last century, but to say she built modern Britain etc and other stuff doing the rounds is just silliness.

It's also entirely predictable and exactly as it should be. Major news is major news, journalists prepare in advance. Perhaps that should be the headline.

Is Winnie the Pooh swearing at Piglet again?

Will nobody post this poem I keep hearing about? I am desperate to read it. The only social media I do is LinkedIn and they are all a bit too serious to repost badly spelled poems about dead dukes tapping their wives on the shoulder whilst she talks to Paddington bear etc etc.

It's on another thread

@Thistleinthenight your mil ime like the Queen and like my own parents and pils is of an age when one is surrounded by one's peers dying and it does take on a different hue at that life stage.

That she was at said life stage won't stop all the outpouring of dross we're about to face though.

Eg there was a woman on earlier who claimed that "throughout her reign, her mantra was 'if you don't see me, you won't believe in me ' "... er, wut? Like Tinkerbell, or Spiderman or something? She'd literally got herself on telly to chat shit and be paid for it and the BBC were happy to oblige.

@Iamthewombat

To like this poem about the Queen http://www.mumsnet.com/Talk/amiibeingunreasonable/4629594-to-like-this-poem-about-the-queen?msgid=-4629594#-4629594

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