To be sad that Queen has died but can't wait for the sycophancy to be over

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I am no royalist but like many in the same position I am truly moved by today's historical news

It is a "once in a lifetime" moment for many of us and I am going to admit that despite strong Republican views I surprised myself by being knocked sideways by news

Not that it wasn't expected and that the Queen hasn't had a good life but by the sheer magnitude of what is happening

However other threads seem to be dismissing the fact that we can feel both - sadness that an elderly individual who was "known" to all of us has died and an unwillingness to join in the "grief jamboree".

I feel like I did when Diana died - I am struggling to recognise the grief others are manifesting and the absolute deferential attitude present here

I feel like this will just build and build and we will be exhausted by end of it

Oh good, the armchair psychologists have arrived.

You don’t know what sycophancy means, do you?

Not me. My reaction on hearing the news that HM had died was "has she? Guess Charles is King now". That's it. I can't grieve a 96 year old woman I didn't know.

1. he had actually met QE2 several times.
2. he is a politician. Did you know that politicians have people to manage their comms?
3. since when is the OP required to measure her thoughts against those of Jeremy Corbyn? Is he the yardstick against which royal thoughtcrime is assessed?

You don’t know what sycophancy means, do you?

Oh, a pedant! Aren't you clever? I think we all know what the OP means.

I don't share the general outpouring of grief and sadness. I didn't know the queen. I felt 'something' when I heard of her death - perhaps wistfulness at the passing of an era. I'm sorry for her family. When Princess Diana died, I was shocked because she was young and the circumstances were so tragic. I felt empathy for her two young sons and her extended family. But not grief.

I understand the whole period of mourning thing as it's a requirement and I completely understand the renewed interest in the queen's life and history. I also understand the sadness of the occasion in and of itself. But not the 'grief' from people who only knew her from the telly and tea towels.

Here’s one of the ‘telly and tea towels’ grievers.

Her motivation appears to be wanting to have a good emote about her own problems.

Has anything wlse happened in the world?

If so, not a single news programme is reporting it

The endless threads on MN about the Queen. Enough now

Yep. She's dead. She has died. That was the news yesterday. Now a bit of perspective would be just fine.

I agree op, it is sad, it always is to some degree, but I never feel particularly sad when someone dies of old old age and in all the comfort that the world can offer.

Even my own grandmother when she was 91. I was sad more for the fact that dementia made her last year bad and that the geriatric ward that she died on after a stroke seemed badly run (10 years ago) and very sick old people all around were left in pain and poor condition. I am sure that the Queen was not in that level of pain or discomfort though.

I feel more sadness for people who have gone to soon and in terrible circumstances- the idea that someone's last moments are pain and fear gets me most, and where a loved one is taken too soon the pain for their family. Or someone who dies alone and who have had a hard life.

YABVU - our Queen who has given 70 years of service has died and most of the country are shocked and are interested in the media coverage. If you don’t want to watch the news there are literally hundreds of alternative channels and streaming sites you can watch instead. This is a moment of our history. Stop trying to police what people watch!!

Yes, I wondered if Liz Truss will be remembered as the Woman who Killed The Queen.

Not because of a Government conspiracy, just the stress of the day.

It might have been an accident 😉

Radio 2 are playing "gentle music" . They did this when prince Philip died as well and it often makes for interesting juxtapositions. Eg I doubt many UK citizens previously associated John Legend with HRH (sample lyrics: "all of me loves all of you, loves your curves and all your edges"). However anyone tuned into Ken Bruce this morning now will.

@Hambledy 😂

OMG!

@WifeMotherWorker

YABVU - our Queen who has given 70 years of service has died and most of the country are shocked and are interested in the media coverage. If you don’t want to watch the news there are literally hundreds of alternative channels and streaming sites you can watch instead. This is a moment of our history. Stop trying to police what people watch!!

How do you know most of the country is shocked? We will never know because that is the only narrative being pushed here.
I am not stopping you watching anything nor am I denying it is a momentous historical event.
Swipe away at me but I'm not sure you have read my thread properly.
In all respect it is quite hard to find anything mainstream (that I would normally listen or watch) showing anything but wall-to-wall coverage.
All that is fine - it is the fawning presenters (yes you Witchell) and the gaslighting about a "national mourning" I watched TV last night - a lot of people were genuinely upset and moved but a minority were waving, smiling and taking selfies in front of Palace - the BBC ignored that

If most of the country is shocked that a 96 year old has died, that says a lot about the state of the place.

If I see one more 'oh I thought you'd go on forever, RIP' I'll roll my eyes right out of my head.

That sums up pretty much how I feel, too.

But I'm also feeling quite intrigued, and I'm wondering what sort of monarch Charles will be.

LOL.

We do seem to have become quite bad at working out likely consequences these past six years tbh.

I agree it is a historical moment. But I'm not sure the world is 'shocked' at the death of an elderly lady in her late 90's.

Agreed. Heard a few people say that last night - they were shocked that she had died.

I honestly don't see how anyone could possibly be shocked that a 96 year old has passed away. Saddened, yes. Shocked? No.

Especially as every time there was a photo of her, or news than she had cancelled something/sent someone in her place for the last few years have prompted a "she will be gone soon" response.

My grandmother was 94 when she passed. Was I heartbroken? Yes. Was i shocked? No. We knew our time with her was limited - she was 94.

The wall to wall tv coverage is a bit much.

I appreciate they might devote news broadcasts to the queen’s death, but the endless waffling on and repeating themselves is somewhat ridiculous. I looked at the BBC1 schedule and they are covering it all day 😵‍💫

The BBC complaint record was broken when Phillip died, I think they had well over 100,000 complaints about the blanket coverage. You’d think they’d have learned from that.

Last Night of the Proms has been cancelled. I wonder whether they couldn’t have made it about her, a celebration of her life?

Last night when I got in I wondered why BBC1 and BBC2 had to be showing exactly the same news, simultaneously. You WILL grieve! You WILL show respect blah blah duty blah service blah.

Cover the story but just on one channel!

"Don't watch/read/engage/join if you don't like it..."

It's not as simple as that and you know it.

This stuff is already EVERYWHERE and it will be very difficult to avoid for a very long time. Many people are going to find themselves in unavoidable situations where simply "not joining in" IS going to come with unpleasant social consequences.

Yes there's stuff we can all do to "try to avoid" it but we can't fully escape it. That's what OP is talking about. That's what's going to leave people resentful and exhausted.

My mother sent me this. My mother who is so unfeeling and was less saddened about the death of my Nan. It’s a fucking joke and I can’t wait for the mass hysteria to be over!