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The Queen ‘under medical supervision’ Part 2

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Festoonlights · 08/09/2022 16:21

A continuation for those that want to share their respectful feelings and thoughts

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FarmerRefuted · 08/09/2022 16:46

Tierne · 08/09/2022 16:43

He might still abdicate. Handing it straight over to William is the best chance of preserving the monarchy

He really won't, he's waited his whole life for this. I think too that, even if he did want to abdicate, he wouldn't because William's children are still quite young and he'll want to spare him from being shoved into the top job while they're still litte. Charles will remember how it was having the monarch as a parent.

JoeyThePrawn · 08/09/2022 16:46

I wouldn't be surprised if the ponies were brought round so that she could see or smell them, a lot of animally people find comfort in this
I'm feeling very emotional , she has served her country well , I can't imagine life without her as our monarch

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 08/09/2022 16:47

www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/mar/16/what-happens-when-queen-elizabeth-dies-london-bridge Article about what's expected to happen.

Extract about what happens immediately:
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Parliament will gather. If possible, both houses will sit within hours of the monarch’s death. In 1952, the Commons convened for two minutes before noon. “We cannot at this moment do more than record a spontaneous expression of our grief,” said Churchill, who was prime minister. The house met again in the evening, when MPs began swearing the oath of allegiance to the new sovereign. Messages rained in from parliaments and presidents. The US House of Representatives adjourned. Ethiopia announced two weeks of mourning. In the House of Lords, the two thrones will be replaced by a single chair and a cushion bearing the golden outline of a crown.
On D+1, the day after the Queen’s death, the flags will go back up, and at 11am, Charles will be proclaimed king. The Accession Council, which convenes in the red-carpeted Entrée Room of St James’s Palace, long predates parliament. The meeting, of the “Lords Spiritual and Temporal of this Realm”, derives from the Witan, the Anglo-Saxon feudal assembly of more than a thousand years ago. In theory, all 670 current members of the Privy Council, from Jeremy Corbyn to Ezekiel Alebua, the former prime minister of the Solomon Islands, are invited – but there is space for only 150 or so. In 1952, the Queen was one of two women present at her proclamation.
The clerk, a senior civil servant named Richard Tilbrook, will read out the formal wording, “Whereas it has pleased Almighty God to call to His Mercy our late Sovereign Lady Queen Elizabeth the Second of Blessed and Glorious memory…” and Charles will carry out the first official duties of his reign, swearing to protect the Church in Scotland, and speaking of the heavy burden that is now his.
At dawn, the central window overlooking Friary Court, on the palace’s eastern front, will have been removed and the roof outside covered in red felt. After Charles has spoken, trumpeters from the Life Guards, wearing red plumes on their helmets, will step outside, give three blasts and the Garter King of Arms, a genealogist named Thomas Woodcock, will stand on the balcony and begin the ritual proclamations of King Charles III. “I will make the first one,” said Woodcock, whose official salary of £49.07 has not been raised since the 1830s. In 1952, four newsreel cameras recorded the moment. This time there will be an audience of billions. People will look for auguries – in the weather, in birds flying overhead – for Charles’s reign. At Elizabeth’s accession, everyone was convinced that the new queen was too calm. The band of the Coldstream Guards will play the national anthem on drums that are wrapped in black cloth.
The proclamations will only just be getting started. From St James’s, the Garter King of Arms and half a dozen other heralds, looking like extras from an expensive Shakespeare production, will go by carriage to the statue of Charles I, at the base of Trafalgar Square, which marks London’s official midpoint, and read out the news again. A 41-gun salute – almost seven minutes of artillery – will be fired from Hyde Park. “There is no concession to modernity in this,” one former palace official told me. There will be cocked hats and horses everywhere. One of the concerns of the broadcasters is what the crowds will look like as they seek to record these moments of history. “The whole world is going to be bloody doing this,” said one news executive, holding up his phone in front of his face.
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On the old boundary of the City of London, outside the Royal Courts of Justice, a red cord will hang across the road. The City Marshal, a former police detective chief superintendent named Philip Jordan, will be waiting on a horse. The heralds will be formally admitted to the City, and there will be more trumpets and more announcements: at the Royal Exchange, and then in a chain reaction across the country. Sixty-five years ago, there were crowds of 10,000 in Birmingham; 5,000 in Manchester; 15,000 in Edinburgh. High Sheriffs stood on the steps of town halls, and announced the new sovereign according to local custom. In York, the Mayor raised a toast to the Queen from a cup made of solid gold.
The same rituals will take place, but this time around the new king will also go out to meet his people. From his proclamation at St James’s, Charles will immediately tour the country, visiting Edinburgh, Belfast and Cardiff to attend services of remembrance for his mother and to meet the leaders of the devolved governments. There will also be civic receptions, for teachers, doctors and other ordinary folk, which are intended to reflect the altered spirit of his reign. “From day one, it is about the people rather than just the leaders being part of this new monarchy,” said one of his advisers, who described the plans for Charles’s progress as: “Lots of not being in a car, but actually walking around.” In the capital, the pageantry of royal death and accession will be archaic and bewildering. But from another city each day, there will be images of the new king mourning alongside his subjects, assuming his almighty, lonely role in the public imagination. “It is see and be seen,” the adviser said.
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user1477391263 · 08/09/2022 16:47

I'm overseas and woke up in the middle of the night over here. It's a strange and sad feeling.

Tierne · 08/09/2022 16:47

True enough, you all make good points. So Charles it will be... Maybe he will reign for 20 years

JustDanceAddict · 08/09/2022 16:47

End of an era. 😢

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 08/09/2022 16:47

He might still abdicate

The job he's been waiting for over the last 70 years? sure he will.😅

Dinoteeth · 08/09/2022 16:48

FetlocksBlowingInTheWind · 08/09/2022 16:43

How long can the BBC keep this waffling going? Endlessly skirting around what may be about to happen without actually being able to say the words?

I wonder if an announcement is expected at a certain time, like 6pm.

I think they are waiting for the other Royals to get to Balmoral. They won't want to announce while they are on the road.

IHateWasps · 08/09/2022 16:49

To be so heartless and unfeeling for someone who has given her life to being our Queen, whether you agree with the royals or not, is quite frankly bizarre - have you considered counselling for your cold heart?

Please let this be sarcasm.

sausage767 · 08/09/2022 16:49

wast542 · 08/09/2022 16:45

Just a thought but perhaps the ponies are to carry the coffin?

Carry it where?

Interesting question… how do you think HM would be conveyed back to London? I’m imagining a motorcade including a hearse, but which way would it go? Can’t really picture it speeding down the motorway.

TheWomanTheyCallJayne · 08/09/2022 16:49

Re the corgis (and Dorgis)
The last of the ones she bred over the years died a couple of years ago.
She still has several that have been brought in as puppies

ArtyChoc · 08/09/2022 16:49

4-5pm is a pretty standard time to bring ponies into their stables, the rain is causing a flush of grass growth and you have to be so careful with the weight of native ponies.

Spudina · 08/09/2022 16:49

I also suspect she has already died.

Utilityroomenvy · 08/09/2022 16:50

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So piss off the thread. How bloody condescending of you.

Lakeyloo · 08/09/2022 16:50

Dinoteeth · 08/09/2022 16:37

If / when HMQ dies do schools and shops close?

There will be a public holiday (or a day of mourning) on the day of the funeral, and another public holiday for the coronation. Banks will close and the markets (as in stock markets) won't trade but it's up to individual businesses if they chose to close.

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 08/09/2022 16:50

Just a thought but perhaps the ponies are to carry the coffin?

No. It's more than likely that the horsebox has nothing whatsoever to do with this. Any coffin will more than likely be moved by car.

ChickenGotLegs · 08/09/2022 16:50

Are you not all overthinking this connection with the ponies!

lilroo87 · 08/09/2022 16:50

I saw programmes have been suspended until 6pm so wondering if she has already passed and an announcement will be made around then.
Not really a royalist but it is a sad feeling, maybe because of all the other doom and gloom out there. Also I'm pregnant and feeling constantly emotional at the minute

AnneBoIeyn · 08/09/2022 16:51

Wow Witchell really is a horrid little man isn't he. Even now he can't resist a crowing little dig about Meghan 'not being welcome'.

Disgusting and so disrespectful to stoop to tabloidesque gossip at a time like this.

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 08/09/2022 16:51

Article above says Royal Train would bring the body to London after lying in state in Edinburgh for a period. A second train would follow to clear the track of any flowers thrown. Hmm I can well imagine crowds at every station, though.

HebeSunshine · 08/09/2022 16:51

Tierne · 08/09/2022 16:46

I didn't realise becoming the monarch would be seen as something to protect people from

Spending your life meeting random people, having no private life, worrying you could be assassinated at any time etc. Rotten job - I wouldn’t fancy it.

keeprunningupthathill · 08/09/2022 16:52

@sausage767 I've been just Brent wading about the plans and apparently it will be by train.

keeprunningupthathill · 08/09/2022 16:52

Reading....

LuluBlakey1 · 08/09/2022 16:52

Announcement from the Sussexes- Meghan will now not travel to Balmoral and will remain in London.

Good decision- I think they have made a sensible choice.

SunshineClouds1 · 08/09/2022 16:52

LuluBlakey1 · 08/09/2022 16:52

Announcement from the Sussexes- Meghan will now not travel to Balmoral and will remain in London.

Good decision- I think they have made a sensible choice.

Agreed

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