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The Queen ‘under medical supervision’ Part 2

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Festoonlights · 08/09/2022 16:21

A continuation for those that want to share their respectful feelings and thoughts

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Blossomtoes · 08/09/2022 16:53

Perhaps this isn’t really the right thread for you @IHateWasps? You might be happier somewhere else.

sunglassesonthetable · 08/09/2022 16:53

Just a thought but perhaps the ponies are to carry the coffin?

With respect the ponies just went through a gate . That's it.

Utilityroomenvy · 08/09/2022 16:53

Thank you OP for starting this thread. A pity those who don’t care less aren’t able to show how little they care by not actually posting on the thread.

I feel very sad and have spent some time thinking back over her reign and how she has united our country in some testing times. She has carried out her role with grace and dignity, and a few of her descendants could learn from that.

inappropriateraspberry · 08/09/2022 16:53

I think many are overthinking the whole thing! Just let them get on with it privately, respectfully, as a family.
Yes it's sad, but not unexpected and we should just let them get on with it.
I also agree that some people on here are far too invested in all this. Leave them be!

AnneBoIeyn · 08/09/2022 16:53

sausage767 · 08/09/2022 16:49

Carry it where?

Interesting question… how do you think HM would be conveyed back to London? I’m imagining a motorcade including a hearse, but which way would it go? Can’t really picture it speeding down the motorway.

She will come via train. She will rest at Holyrood then lie in state at St Giles before being brought to London, with stops at all the stations she passes through.

Againstmachine · 08/09/2022 16:53

So piss off the thread. How bloody condescending of you.

This is posted in AIBU so people should be prepared to be told they are.

the80sweregreat · 08/09/2022 16:53

Witchell is a nightmare :(
Leave Meghan alone.

Heyyebskeikwbevg · 08/09/2022 16:53

@sausage767 tbe Queen will be transported to Edinburgh and certain services performed. She will then travel by train to London- people will line the platforms and crossings throwing flowers on the train.

FetlocksBlowingInTheWind · 08/09/2022 16:53

Dinoteeth · 08/09/2022 16:48

I think they are waiting for the other Royals to get to Balmoral. They won't want to announce while they are on the road.

Yes that makes sense. Maybe they shouldn't have started so early then...it's just blathering to pass the time.

I guess it's helping us all get through the waiting. So awful.

ChagSameachDoreen · 08/09/2022 16:53

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 08/09/2022 16:47

www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/mar/16/what-happens-when-queen-elizabeth-dies-london-bridge Article about what's expected to happen.

Extract about what happens immediately:
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Parliament will gather. If possible, both houses will sit within hours of the monarch’s death. In 1952, the Commons convened for two minutes before noon. “We cannot at this moment do more than record a spontaneous expression of our grief,” said Churchill, who was prime minister. The house met again in the evening, when MPs began swearing the oath of allegiance to the new sovereign. Messages rained in from parliaments and presidents. The US House of Representatives adjourned. Ethiopia announced two weeks of mourning. In the House of Lords, the two thrones will be replaced by a single chair and a cushion bearing the golden outline of a crown.
On D+1, the day after the Queen’s death, the flags will go back up, and at 11am, Charles will be proclaimed king. The Accession Council, which convenes in the red-carpeted Entrée Room of St James’s Palace, long predates parliament. The meeting, of the “Lords Spiritual and Temporal of this Realm”, derives from the Witan, the Anglo-Saxon feudal assembly of more than a thousand years ago. In theory, all 670 current members of the Privy Council, from Jeremy Corbyn to Ezekiel Alebua, the former prime minister of the Solomon Islands, are invited – but there is space for only 150 or so. In 1952, the Queen was one of two women present at her proclamation.
The clerk, a senior civil servant named Richard Tilbrook, will read out the formal wording, “Whereas it has pleased Almighty God to call to His Mercy our late Sovereign Lady Queen Elizabeth the Second of Blessed and Glorious memory…” and Charles will carry out the first official duties of his reign, swearing to protect the Church in Scotland, and speaking of the heavy burden that is now his.
At dawn, the central window overlooking Friary Court, on the palace’s eastern front, will have been removed and the roof outside covered in red felt. After Charles has spoken, trumpeters from the Life Guards, wearing red plumes on their helmets, will step outside, give three blasts and the Garter King of Arms, a genealogist named Thomas Woodcock, will stand on the balcony and begin the ritual proclamations of King Charles III. “I will make the first one,” said Woodcock, whose official salary of £49.07 has not been raised since the 1830s. In 1952, four newsreel cameras recorded the moment. This time there will be an audience of billions. People will look for auguries – in the weather, in birds flying overhead – for Charles’s reign. At Elizabeth’s accession, everyone was convinced that the new queen was too calm. The band of the Coldstream Guards will play the national anthem on drums that are wrapped in black cloth.
The proclamations will only just be getting started. From St James’s, the Garter King of Arms and half a dozen other heralds, looking like extras from an expensive Shakespeare production, will go by carriage to the statue of Charles I, at the base of Trafalgar Square, which marks London’s official midpoint, and read out the news again. A 41-gun salute – almost seven minutes of artillery – will be fired from Hyde Park. “There is no concession to modernity in this,” one former palace official told me. There will be cocked hats and horses everywhere. One of the concerns of the broadcasters is what the crowds will look like as they seek to record these moments of history. “The whole world is going to be bloody doing this,” said one news executive, holding up his phone in front of his face.
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On the old boundary of the City of London, outside the Royal Courts of Justice, a red cord will hang across the road. The City Marshal, a former police detective chief superintendent named Philip Jordan, will be waiting on a horse. The heralds will be formally admitted to the City, and there will be more trumpets and more announcements: at the Royal Exchange, and then in a chain reaction across the country. Sixty-five years ago, there were crowds of 10,000 in Birmingham; 5,000 in Manchester; 15,000 in Edinburgh. High Sheriffs stood on the steps of town halls, and announced the new sovereign according to local custom. In York, the Mayor raised a toast to the Queen from a cup made of solid gold.
The same rituals will take place, but this time around the new king will also go out to meet his people. From his proclamation at St James’s, Charles will immediately tour the country, visiting Edinburgh, Belfast and Cardiff to attend services of remembrance for his mother and to meet the leaders of the devolved governments. There will also be civic receptions, for teachers, doctors and other ordinary folk, which are intended to reflect the altered spirit of his reign. “From day one, it is about the people rather than just the leaders being part of this new monarchy,” said one of his advisers, who described the plans for Charles’s progress as: “Lots of not being in a car, but actually walking around.” In the capital, the pageantry of royal death and accession will be archaic and bewildering. But from another city each day, there will be images of the new king mourning alongside his subjects, assuming his almighty, lonely role in the public imagination. “It is see and be seen,” the adviser said.
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What a ridiculous palaver. The country is on its knees and they're concerned with these silly rituals.

Chakraleaf · 08/09/2022 16:54

Dinoteeth · 08/09/2022 16:37

If / when HMQ dies do schools and shops close?

Only for the funeral

girlmom21 · 08/09/2022 16:54

Tierne · 08/09/2022 16:47

True enough, you all make good points. So Charles it will be... Maybe he will reign for 20 years

He won't make 20 I don't think.

SleeplessInEngland · 08/09/2022 16:54

inappropriateraspberry · 08/09/2022 16:53

I think many are overthinking the whole thing! Just let them get on with it privately, respectfully, as a family.
Yes it's sad, but not unexpected and we should just let them get on with it.
I also agree that some people on here are far too invested in all this. Leave them be!

But the point of the royal family is pomp and ceremony.

Not even saying that as a diss: it’s obviously endured and will continue to endure.

Fenella123 · 08/09/2022 16:55

Even the Global Cycling News presenters (+) covering the Vuelta are all in black!
I'm assuming that a maid went in with the Queen's morning cuppa and found she'd passed away or similar, and today has all been one of those in-between periods where everyone knows but nobody says it.

(+) This never ever happens, "be safe be seen" sort of seeps into the daily fashion choices even in the studio

TheUsualChaos · 08/09/2022 16:56

I still think she has already passed tbh. I don't think the BBC would do this level of reporting if family were still waiting. Elderly folk can last for days when they reach the final stage of their life so it just wouldn't make sense to start reporting like this unless it had already been confirmed.

TwinGirlsOnTheWay · 08/09/2022 16:57

TheUsualChaos · 08/09/2022 16:56

I still think she has already passed tbh. I don't think the BBC would do this level of reporting if family were still waiting. Elderly folk can last for days when they reach the final stage of their life so it just wouldn't make sense to start reporting like this unless it had already been confirmed.

Exactly - my Nan lasted 4 days on drivers and they ran out, they were on the way to get more when she passed. I don't see why they would be running news like this, nothing else on at all, if she was still alive

DillonPanthersTexas · 08/09/2022 16:57

ZooMount · 08/09/2022 16:46

To be so heartless and unfeeling for someone who has given her life to being our Queen, whether you agree with the royals or not, is quite frankly bizarre - have you considered counselling for your cold heart?

Jesus wept 😂

FetlocksBlowingInTheWind · 08/09/2022 16:57

TheUsualChaos · 08/09/2022 16:56

I still think she has already passed tbh. I don't think the BBC would do this level of reporting if family were still waiting. Elderly folk can last for days when they reach the final stage of their life so it just wouldn't make sense to start reporting like this unless it had already been confirmed.

I agree, I think an announcement is coming soon.

mateysmum · 08/09/2022 16:57

Clive Myrie now in the BBC hot seat - sombrely dressed

Burpeea · 08/09/2022 16:58

My DB works in news gathering and the word is that there is an announcement at either 5pm or 6pm

inappropriateraspberry · 08/09/2022 16:58

@SleeplessInEngland
Pomp and ceremony for the funeral etc, yes, but if she is passing away, that moment should be private, whoever you are.

NanaNelly · 08/09/2022 16:58

sausage767 · 08/09/2022 16:49

Carry it where?

Interesting question… how do you think HM would be conveyed back to London? I’m imagining a motorcade including a hearse, but which way would it go? Can’t really picture it speeding down the motorway.

It will probably be by Royal train so people can pay their respects as it travels towards London, or it will be by the Royal Flight.

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 08/09/2022 16:58

Given that Prince William appears still to be in transit, I doubt we'll hear anything at 5pm.

ImJustMadAboutSaffron · 08/09/2022 16:59

mateysmum · 08/09/2022 16:57

Clive Myrie now in the BBC hot seat - sombrely dressed

Clive's a good shout. Dread to think what Phil and Holly will say if she's died. They'll be unbearable.

girlmom21 · 08/09/2022 16:59

mateysmum · 08/09/2022 16:57

Clive Myrie now in the BBC hot seat - sombrely dressed

But wearing a blue tie, not black.

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