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Patronising MN replies that people pretend are sincere…

173 replies

Itsbadbitchoclockyeahitsthickthirty · 05/09/2022 12:57

I’ll go first:

”Are you very young OP?”

OP posts:
Jibbajabba1 · 05/09/2022 17:38

‘I feel sorry for you’
’you have ocd’
’you need help’
😬😂

MostTacticalNameChange · 05/09/2022 17:44

picklemewalnuts · 05/09/2022 15:07

I read that more as 'my husband is amazing but it's still a compromise. It was barely' maybe worth it for him but I wouldn't risk it again.

I agree they might mean it like that but is mentioning your amazing partner to someone unhappy, lonely or trying to find someone that helpful? I dunno - I am genuinely single by choice and those comments just ring so untrue - they are basically saying I'd be single too if i didn't have someone amazing who loves me. I don't believe 'em, think it's an attempt at stealth boasting. Like my 'mate' saying she'd just love a house like mine...if only she didn't have so many things, friends and visitors Grin

CatsandFish · 05/09/2022 18:50

Thereisnolight · 05/09/2022 14:32

I think this is very relevant and a good question.

Ditto Were you the OW?

Agreed. Some OPs are so cryptic and sparse with information. How can we help them if they say for example "I confronted him about it". And.... leaves it hanging there? The fact we even have to ask what he said shows that the OP is not giving us the information.

CatsandFish · 05/09/2022 19:03

For me it's the "what were you doing snooping in your husband's phone" as if a) phones are meant to be private things - it's not with my husband and I, we don't have secrets and share our phones, until Mumsnet I thought everyone did! and b) it's a form of victim-blaming by saying the 'crime' of snooping in her own spouse's phone is a much worse sin than having an affair/spending all family money on motels/other woman and possibly exposing the OP to an STI.

Imobsessedwithsuccesion · 05/09/2022 19:35

My absolute favourite is when the OP posts that she's lonely and would like a partner. She adds that she has friends, hobbies and has tried lots of things but nothings worked and she is feeling a bit crap.

Someone then pipes up 'I loved being single, before I met DP and had 5 kids I had a lovely time'. If it was that good, why did you change it!!!

Also 'I'd love some peace and freedom' Again, you chose to give that up. OP wants what she wants.

If being single was so great, why did all these posters give it up? And I'm happily single by choice so I know it's great but it's the hypocrisy that annoys me!

saraclara · 05/09/2022 19:38

For me it's the "what were you doing snooping in your husband's phone" as if a) phones are meant to be private things

They are.

weinerdog · 05/09/2022 19:42

saraclara · 05/09/2022 19:38

For me it's the "what were you doing snooping in your husband's phone" as if a) phones are meant to be private things

They are.

True, however point b) is accurate. You get 10 posters chiming in with 'why did you snoop. So controlling and insecure' after the DH has refused sex for a year and been having an affair

CatsandFish · 05/09/2022 19:46

saraclara · 05/09/2022 19:38

For me it's the "what were you doing snooping in your husband's phone" as if a) phones are meant to be private things

They are.

Not in a marriage. At least not outside of Mumsnet.

WhileMyGuitarGentlyWeeps · 05/09/2022 19:49

artishard · 05/09/2022 14:40

'Hi, man here!'

Grin

I also hate:

Consultant here.
Teacher here
Lawyer here
Doctor here

I mean there's nothing wrong with it really but it just irks me. IDK why!!! Angry Maybe they could say.. 'I'm a lawyer and this is my take on it...' It just annoys me!

@forlornlorna1 · Today 15:09

"Could they be autistic"

I dislike this too.... Offered for any irrational or unacceptable behaviour. Quite insulting to autistic people too. See also 'could they have Alzheimer's disease?' if someone is really aggressive and rude, and 'could he have depression?' when a poster's husband is nasty/moody/aggressive towards them.

WhileMyGuitarGentlyWeeps · 05/09/2022 19:51

saraclara · 05/09/2022 14:28

Thanks @WhileMyGuitarGentlyWeeps ! I got one of those last night when a poster decided that I needed psychiatric help when I got totally reasonably (but repeatedly) pissed off on a thread!

@saraclara and @weinerdog

It's f*cking annoying isn't it? So rude and condescending to suggest someone is 'weirdly invested' or ' a bit angry!' and SO misogynistic and nasty to say 'you sound unhinged!'

5128gap · 05/09/2022 19:55

'You need to work on your self esteem' (because objecting to your partners use of porn/prostitutes/leering at teenagers is down to your jealousy and lack of confidence)
'I find it so sad when women feel the need to...' (do anything to their appearance)

Thereisnolight · 05/09/2022 20:00

BigSkies2022 · 05/09/2022 15:41

Well, what did they say when you told them thats not on!?

Well, nothing, I havent actually talked to them about it

Fuck off and talk to them and then come and complain

Well, the reason the question ' What did they say when you told them,,, etc" is patronising rather than good and relevant, is that it assumes the course of action proposed by the person posing the question is the only possible one. So it comes across as rather sneery - 'why haven't you already done this absolutely obvious thing,[you idiot]?' And there might be a number of reasons why. The OP might genuinely not know that a situation is unfair/unreasonable/someone is being vile; or the person being vile is terrifyingly violent/mad/Mafia-connected; or the OP has problems which might prevent them marching up to the person and demanding they desist.

But if you were to ask, "Have you had a chance to talk to them about it, OP?" - well, that is a more helpful, open question, is it not? The OP might then say, no, and I'm scared to because....or No, and I don't know how to go about it without causing offence, ...or No, because I can't leave the house because of crushing agoraphobia...and then posters who were genuinely interested in the OP's dilemma might have something useful to add.

Does that help clarify it for you? HTH.

I hate HTH personally.
Super patronising.

Datingadviceplease · 05/09/2022 20:00

Imobsessedwithsuccesion · 05/09/2022 19:35

My absolute favourite is when the OP posts that she's lonely and would like a partner. She adds that she has friends, hobbies and has tried lots of things but nothings worked and she is feeling a bit crap.

Someone then pipes up 'I loved being single, before I met DP and had 5 kids I had a lovely time'. If it was that good, why did you change it!!!

Also 'I'd love some peace and freedom' Again, you chose to give that up. OP wants what she wants.

If being single was so great, why did all these posters give it up? And I'm happily single by choice so I know it's great but it's the hypocrisy that annoys me!

'Being married living in my six bedroom chalet with husband you adores me and looking at my perfect 3 DC is not all its cracked upto be!'

DillonPanthersTexas · 05/09/2022 20:14

Consultant here.
Teacher here
Lawyer here
Doctor here

i don't actually mind people stated their profession if it means they can provide some concise advise to a problem rather then let the pound shop Weetabix box lawyers stink up the place with what they once saw on an episode of Ally McBeal
^^

MoveBitch · 05/09/2022 20:17

"genuine question"

Whenever this phrase is used, you can be damn sure it's not a genuine bloody question!

Imobsessedwithsuccesion · 05/09/2022 20:22

Datingadviceplease · 05/09/2022 20:00

'Being married living in my six bedroom chalet with husband you adores me and looking at my perfect 3 DC is not all its cracked upto be!'

Exactly @Datingadviceplease and I say this as someone who wouldn't thank you for it but it must have it's benefits Grin

xiaoxo · 05/09/2022 20:27

“why sit and write up this entire bloody thread whinging when you could go round there and confront them yourself instead”

boils my piss

girlmom21 · 05/09/2022 20:36

Not in a marriage. At least not outside of Mumsnet.

Yes they are. You're entitled to privacy if you're married.

Arbesque · 05/09/2022 20:49

Buuhuuh · 05/09/2022 17:20

"You sound a bit moody, OP. Have you considered getting some counselling? x"

The x at the end is icing on the cake.

THANK YOU, DR PHIL!

Oh God yes. I once posted, on a thread about SUVs, that I found them annoying in car parks because it was difficult to see around them.
Some absolute passive aggressive eejit suggested I do a course for nervous drivers.

iklboo · 05/09/2022 20:59

genuine question"

I have used that one to clarify I'm not being a goady cah when I need something clarifying.

Sort of - 'I hate all clowns and anyone who likes clowns should be locked up'

Why clown fabs locked up? What's happened that you don't like clowns so much? Did something awful happen when you were little that started this? Genuine question, I'm not suggesting everyone should love evil bastard clowns.

MarshaMelrose · 05/09/2022 21:02

Tell your DH to just hand his notice in and go get a better paying job. 🤔

Arbesque · 05/09/2022 21:03

Yes I have said 'genuine question' to make it clear I'm not sneering at or snidely challenging the OP.

ICaughtTonsillitisFromAFriendsKid · 05/09/2022 21:05

Is your husband always a dick?

MistressoftheDarkSide · 05/09/2022 21:14

My pet hate is when the OP has poured out the most complex, heart rending situation, the real being at the centre of a shitstorm scenario, plus every single thing they have done to change/improve/address every single thing they’ve mentioned, they’re at their wits end and are basically venting, and someone says:

”Why don’t you just…. (Insert impossible solution to the problem)?”

Even when it’s quite obvious they have tried everything within the scope of their circumstances and the most pragmatic, resilient person would be hard pressed to do anything else.

And when the OP tries to explain why said solution is out of their reach, the implication that they just aren’t trying hard enough…..

Sometimes people just need to get things out of their system !!

Sometimes their are genuine new suggestions that might be helpful, but often I read threads thinking “Did you not read the OP at all???”

Blueberrywitch · 05/09/2022 21:17

Sometimes I stumble on threads from like 2009 and it is shocking how different they are in tone, so so kind to each other. It’s sad how it’s changed! 😢

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