To think we're about to witness a repeat of Labour's wrong Miliband brother moment?

[KenAdams]

How Liz will won above Rishi is beyond me. I mean, I know they're both Tories and we are where we are but her interview with Laura K on Sunday really worried me.

I feel like the country is on a knife edge waiting to see what she will announce and I'm 99% sure it just won't be enough and it will start a chain of events that will make for such a difficult time for this country.

I do think it would be stopped if Rishi were PM or at least kerbed but I feel that the Tory party are about to make the wrong decision with who they chose and with it will bring dire consequences for the country.

I would think it would make them unelectable but if they've selected an ERG PM then who knows any more? Maybe I'm just a cynic but I'm so concerned about the next few weeks and months.

Ack. They voted for her because the Tory party always loves an overly strict nanny sort.

It's almost freudian.

Truss has made it clear she will pander to funders and big business hence why she went from being the joke candidate to the front runner.
The Tories have a real problem.
Labour should be making much more of the open goal they've been given but they're too bloody busy telling people off for striking and pretending they don't know what a woman is. It's a complete shambles.

Maybe I’m naive but do many “thick” people end up graduating from Oxford, especially having attended state school

Having parents with high aspirations, being diligent, and acing your exam papers as a 17/18 year old are all laudable traits and show a reasonably/relatively high level of intelligence. But bear little to no relation to a persons ability to effectively run a government department let alone a whole country.

@Festoonlights

Utterly deluded - Boris wont be back as PM ever. Douglas-Home has a similar arrogance that "people and party" would demand him back. They didn't.

How is it in Moscow?

Oh really. I think you will find Truss has been parachuted in - but it will be Boris that will win for the Conservatives.

Quite frankly its like choosing between a turd and a shite.

Re ‘thick and Oxford’, I don’t think that the kind of academic ability that enables you to graduate from Oxbridge necessarily means that the person is over-endowed with common sense.
I’ve noticed more than once that CS can be decidedly lacking in academically very clever people.

Festoonlights, I can't be bothered to itemise each and every one of your responses to carefullycourageous' list, but a very quick look into the assertion regarding attacks on lawyers and judges shows it is very definitely not a lie, especially over the prorogation issue (and I would love to know how you lay that at the door of Remainers.....) - No 10 actually had to issue an apology over their comments.

The Windrush scandal only really surfaced in 1027, so not 'Decades ago', in fact very recent. People who had a perfect right to be in the UK started being deported following the 'Hostile Environment' legislation of 2012. So at most, one decade ago, and far more recently than that too.

FFS. Not 1027, 2017

I think this is EXACTLY what the plan is.

Is that the range of your argument?

So inflation wont eat up increases in defence spending?
Thatcher didn't support the SM and £150 is plenty of a 6k bill.....

Riiiiiight.... get ready for a long period in opposition, perhaps then you lot will return to one nation conservatism.

So much to rip apart in this post but I don’t have the time this morning. However you bang on about people being in their own special bubble and then say this “windrush policies - HAPPENED DECADES AGO!”. No, idiot. It’s clearly a reference to 2018.

I agree entirely here @wackamole

I also think that Truss will hasten the demise of the Tories (hurrah!) but I shudder to think what damage she will cause in the few months (hopefully) before that happens. She is squaring up to La Sturgeon which will make for an overly antagonistic IndyRef2 in Scotland next year (where I live) but on a global scale she will damage relations with China, Europe, the US - anyone at all really -

I think it's rather telling that her own Father has expressed his dismay.

That was in reply to
@Festoonlights

'How is it in Moscow?'

You tell us, @Festoonlights - it's the Tories whose fundraisers have been snuggling up to Putin.

www.businessinsider.com/tories-call-oust-co-chairman-ben-elliot-russia-links-2022-3?amp

I am a former - pre-Brexit and Lockdown - member of the Conservative Party, and Liz Truss is the very last leader who would persuade me to re-join. She is a walking disaster, and will consign the Conservative Party to years in opposition.

She's just not bright enough

Truss has an Oxford degree. She is also northern, comprehensive school educated, blonde and female. All of which may lead some people to assume she is a bit dim. She is not.

It is a choice between Tweedledum and Tweedledee though isn't it.

Liz had an affair on her DH, so she is someone who has lied, been deceitful, duplicitous and selfish with the person closest to you.

Rishi Sunak is a massive hypocrite. He and his wife have no morales. You can't inflict financial pain on people when Chancellor, whilst your tri-nationality wife keeps all her assets offshore so the underclass of the UK won't benefit from the tax revenues on her massive wealth.

It is irrelevant to me who gets in. I held my nose and voted for Boris, despite having a totally rubbish Conservative MP. I won't vote for them again. That may mean a hefty tax rise for me, but I don't mind. Things have gone too far in this country and we need to start looking after each other, not just the dividend holders of massive companies.

This. Both Truss and Sunak are bad candidates. But good candidates do sometimes put up their hands. Rory Stewart was good, also Tom Tugendhat was way better than Truss/Sunak. Problem is, the Tory MPs vote for whoever promises them the world, not for the most competent. And then the Tory party votes for whoever is prepared to lie to them the most.

The next PM was chosen by a majority of only 150,000 voters who included children, from a pool of two candidates, both incompetent and both close friends of the man who just got fired for incompetence/dishonesty.

The system is broken. And that is a very big problem.

Truss has an Oxford degree

Many people have Oxford degrees, it doesn't mean they have the skills to run the country

Absolute dingbat. I give her till Christmas.

And probably unconscious racism - better a woman pm than an ethnic ....

Really? Truss' new cabinet is likely to include many people who aren't white.

Truss has an Oxford degree. She is also northern, comprehensive school educated, blonde and female. All of which may lead some people to assume she is a bit dim. She is not

Her nickname is Thick Lizzy…..

None of the things you cite mean she isn't a total muppet.