I have outgrown men

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Before all the namalt brigade come along I'm well aware.

Thing is it's true I have outgrown the ridiculouness and childishness of men.

I'm married but even so I feel like I'd be better off alone most of the time. Nothing wrong with dh as such but I'm more able and stronger alone.

I have just been to the pub and all the women were complimentary of each other. Going with the flow. And enjoying themselves. The men were either grumpy or showing brovado. There was an incident on our table that involved new men intimidating each other and I just went home.

The thing is this isn't a table of young men. It's professionals and grown ups. I just cant be bothered with it.

None of the women got involved but it spoilt the night.

I told dh I don't have time for such pathetic behaviour.

It never ends. It doesn't matter how old or wise we become men seem to revert back to this strange behaviour.

I deal with it day in day out at my work and I simply can't be bothered. If I never had to see another man, mansplaining, dominating conversation, throwing their weight around, bravado, dick measuring, causing a scene in my life it would be too soon.

Absolutely done with it.

Not sad. It's true. In a marriage the man and woman are rarely equal partners, the woman almost always ends up doing more.

@ideasmirrour

How baffling you don't understand that many white women abused, accused and oppressed black men, women and children

Especially in the US

Ever heard of Emmet Till?

Ah yes, because we can find a few counterexamples in recorded history means that it’s all equal, doesn’t it? Like the existence of Myra Hindley and Rose West means the vast majority of violent sexual crime is not committed by men? That kind of thing?

This is what male apologism is. Good for you. One thing about the vast majority of men — you can absolutely rely on them never to say “yes, my kind are a bit of a problem, aren’t we? I do my best to be a better man, face up to the truth of male supremacism and oppression, and challenge poor behaviour from other men wherever I can.”

Thanks for demonstrating the usual male response, @Abhannmor. Can you explain why my male friends and colleagues near uniformly dropped me and ignored me the instant I had a baby and got ill, fat and ugly? I hadn’t done anything else to them, but guess I just deserved it for the moral crime of no longer being attractive, yes?

my son is an exception

I'm sorry but you just cannot have it both ways.

I’m an American historian — but yes, the Karens were at fault here! They must have been the ones doing the lynching, no?

If you son gets engaged would you advise his girlfriend to leave him?

Her son is probably 'different' 😂

Ah it’s the real misogyny on display now. Being treated badly by men - well, you must have deserved it, you whining fun-sponge!

Hmm, why is it that men are so unappealing? Is it the entitlement, the name-calling, the arguing about things using silly counterexamples and zero knowledge, the barely concealed misogynist aggression or the aggressive dismissal of all women’s complaints as them having no sense of humour? Oh, I can’t decide!

It’s always a pleasure to be on one of those threads where posters come on and quite literally bear out the entire point.

@Sunnysideup999

my son is an exception.

Every woman think their sons are the exception.
Or their husband, dad, brother, male friend….

That’s part of the problem.

As an aside; I'd love to know how many of the man-haters on here believe TWAW.

YADNBU

Well put!

No law that says women can’t be misogynists! Lots on this thread! (@Abhannmor is male afaik)

You’re demonstrating some entrenched misogyny here, for example. Woman recounts an experience of men you don’t want to believe? Dismiss it by calling her names. Because it can’t be true that men will one day treat you like that, no?

Any younger woman in doubt - remember that when you suddenly aren’t seen as sexually available or attractive any more, you’ll suddenly be a “whining fun sponge” if you don’t accept that that’s what women really are if they aren’t fuckable — and WORSE STILL — if they complain about it! Nothing worse than a fat old woman with no sense of humour, amirite? Karens all over the place, funsponging about, how dare the old cows speak up and spoil the cool girls’ illusions.

Snap. When I separated from my ex and had the kids most weekends I wasn't exactly beset by female suitors either. Although when the children got into their teens one or two told me I 'should move on' as they were grown up .

But I came to my decision : the job and the kids came first. I'd had three longish relationships. I was done. A bit selfish in some ways. I understand if women feel likewise because it does wear one down. There's a lot to be said for being a singleton. I always have a chuckle when the inevitable Incel gets tossed into the argument. It means as much to me as Terf now

Of course not. That’s one of the reasons they’re so shouty and entitled and have zero sense of respect towards women — obviously.

@ideasmirrour

Are you seriously downplaying the racial abuse and violence white women committed against black men, women and children as simply being 'Karen's'?

That's disgusting

I've returned from a weekend away celebrating my youngest daughter going to Australia, there was a do where most of the male guests were in their 20s-30s, they were without exception friendly, engaged and interesting to a getting on for 70 something. I am finding it hard to adjust to my self centred, disinterested and boorish husband.
I have hopes for the younger generation of males...

Ah, right on schedule, some manufactured faux disgust and misrepresenting what someone else actually wrote as a weak way to try and win a point.

I can guarantee I know a fair amount more about the American South than you do; but you just go ahead and feel all righteous there trying to blame men’s behaviour throughout history on women, if it makes you feel better. It’s internalised misogyny — pure and simple.

Feel free to explain the sadness inherent in encouraging women to live their best lives?

And to live their best lives do they need to make memories and live laugh love?

Some men are arseholes, some women are arseholes. That's it.

I agree.

No ones forcing you to be in a relationship, so just be single.

I can’t stand men or women who moan about their partners constantly but don’t do anything about it.

People are people is what it comes down to.

I get it.

My man is kind and considerate, unassuming, and cleans and does the washing. He gets emotional at sad movies. He can’t cook for shit and appreciates and thanks me because I can. He puts me first, always. He has never catcalled a woman in his life. The older I get, the older he gets, the more I love him. He is the exact opposite of what I was attracted to in my 20s. I was stupid. I am so lucky. I want my son to grow up and be just like him.