I have outgrown men

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Before all the namalt brigade come along I'm well aware.

Thing is it's true I have outgrown the ridiculouness and childishness of men.

I'm married but even so I feel like I'd be better off alone most of the time. Nothing wrong with dh as such but I'm more able and stronger alone.

I have just been to the pub and all the women were complimentary of each other. Going with the flow. And enjoying themselves. The men were either grumpy or showing brovado. There was an incident on our table that involved new men intimidating each other and I just went home.

The thing is this isn't a table of young men. It's professionals and grown ups. I just cant be bothered with it.

None of the women got involved but it spoilt the night.

I told dh I don't have time for such pathetic behaviour.

It never ends. It doesn't matter how old or wise we become men seem to revert back to this strange behaviour.

I deal with it day in day out at my work and I simply can't be bothered. If I never had to see another man, mansplaining, dominating conversation, throwing their weight around, bravado, dick measuring, causing a scene in my life it would be too soon.

Absolutely done with it.

Honestly well done to all the poster's who have not experienced this or who feel sorry for the menz because all men in their life are fabulous. I'm truly happy for you. I'm glad as women you have not had to experience the shit men

Once finances are sorted stbx safe in new home I can’t wait. My home will be my sanctuary from this shit life.

I vote b). Not my experience.
But hey, OP, if that's what you feel, works for you.

I haven't experienced shit men because I don't associate with them

Maybe many on here need to raise their bars or take stock of their friends bars before chirping up slating an entire sex

It comes off as incredibly sad

No-one is saying men are fabulous. They're just people. Some great, some mediocre, some shit. Problem is not enough pushback against the worse aspects of men in and as a group.

@Annieisalright good for you lass good for you

Yes good for me

I'm no bitter enough to start such a ridiculous thread on here slating an entire sex

It's pathetic

I find it hard to relate to these kinds of threads and I think it's just a cultural thing, Irish men are by in large lovely! Catcalling isn't really something you see here for example.

@ThirtyThreeTrees where are you from?

Also, my DH has said many times that there's a feeling of aggression in uk pubs, and there are often fights are the end of the night. Uk men are v aggro in his experience.

I know what you mean OP

I said this on another thread, but there's a real vibe of toxic energy coming from men IME. I live in a very overcrowded area and use the Tube so maybe I notice it more.

I also dislike the local gym because of the loudness and while there's also a lot of hugging and backslapping, I'm starting to find that a bit odd. I know post lockdown many people were relieved to have hugs but starting to wonder if it's actually a bit alpha male.

I don't want to feel like this. I don't want to dislike half the world. I am just not seeing anything to like.

I can't relate to this narrative of men at all.

They'll be all right. Don't worry.

I've never encountered such behaviour in a normal pub in the UK.

You must visit sh*thole establishments or mix with the lower echelons of society..

I've always lived on my own

Occasionally I've downloaded a dating app and I'll see the profile
"Looking for 18-25yo woman, prefer blondes, must be size 6-10, own job, car, house. Sporty and educated" (etc etc)
Click profile. Man with beer belly, baseball cap, 49, no job, watches sport only on TV and lives with his mum

Nope

I am dating currently but he's a decade younger and well trained makes the bed, cooks, cleans, doesn't bitch about women and has 50/50 time with his daughter and often more

Women's lived are better without male partners. It's an established fact.

Thats not “an established fact”

It's actually pretty well established:

www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2019/may/25/women-happier-without-children-or-a-spouse-happiness-expert?

If you feel like you’d be better off without your husband why don’t you just tell him so you’s can split up, he will hopefully meet a woman who doesn’t see all men as inadequate or whatever and you can enjoy the rest of your life by avoiding all contact with other men so that they don’t bother you, problem solved.

yanbu.

I think this is sensible. It's certainly my plan.

A lot of what you say about men is true, but if you stop looking at women with rose-tinted glasses, and look outside the women close to you, you'll realise lots of women have different, but equally obnoxious characteristics. And I don't know is it just me, but the worst of both genders seems to come out in couples who are approaching middle aged onwards, and who have been together for a while.

Had such a heated discussion about this post with my DH just now, that I need to place mark and find it tomorrow! I just didn't realise this by myself, but it's true- YANBU, OP!
I hardly ever want to go to any parties now, as I can't be bothered with all the men just measuring d**ks, talking sport and house prices!

I’ve noticed a shift since being peri menopausal

i don’t desire being with a man like I used to, my tolerance level is lower and I no longer care if they are impressed by me

i find most men to be selfish, few I believe are trustworthy in relationships and few are aware of how sexist they are most are utter dicks

How many of you have sons? Are you going to include them as not being fit to live with?

I have a son

I am bringing him up to be respectful of girls and women and to consider girls and women as equal

it’s not always so easy when there are so ma h negative influences

i think children are bought up to be more self aware