To think that Liz Truss as PM will mean a Labour government?

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I am no fan of this so-called Conservative government (thanks to Brexit and lockdowns, both of which I detest). So I suppose I'm a lifelong centre-ish Conservative with a desire not to have a bunch of loony lefties in control, but with no real political home at the moment.

Given a choice between Truss and Sunak, I would have to choose Sunak. I know, though, that it will end up with Truss as PM.

AIBU to think this will mean a Labour government and years in the political wilderness for the Conservative party?

Let's face it we haven't got a Government at the moment,the biggest financial crisis to hit the ordinary people & where have they all been? Boris is probably wanking on a beach somewhere, no signs of Liz Truss & Rishi Sunak our candidates to be the new PM, not even a sniff of the Chancellor, nobody has the balls to come on television & answer the questions we are all asking, Martin Lewis has answered more questions & I can understand his anger & frustration on television today.

The Tories have done a fantastic job of turning the country into an effective 'one party state' and no matter how bad they are (and they are bad) people will always make excuses for them and continue to level extremely out of date accusations against the Labour party. Let's face it, could Labour really do any worse? After 12 years of Tory misrule, it must be about time we found out.

Liz shows not one ounce of empathy when talking about currrent times. She does not give two shits. I often wonder if her and priti are actually fucking human.

I'd rather a Lib Dem government personally.

Really we shouldn'tbe now ing about the Torys we should raging about how bag Labour are.
How they refuse to step up to the plate and bat, no wonder Tony Blair keeps saying can I come back please. He must be in shock at how Labour have been hand the Election on a plate and instead they don't even see the plate.
OMG what have we come to when they can't even win because they woke play.

OMG what have we come to when they can't even win because they woke play.

You need to elaborate. Didn't they hold Batley and Spen when it was expected to go Tory? Didn't they re-take Wakefield and win that by-election? What have they failed to win because of 'woke'?

Try and be coherent.

Lisa Nandy thinks that it's right that child rapists can be incarcerated within women's prisons. Granted, the law that allowed it to happen was passed under the May government but at least her successors have started to backpedal, rather than pushing on.

Most of the rest of their policies are ones I would class as "good intentions, but won't really work in practice". Looking down the list of policies of both main parties, I am struck by how similar they both are. The Conservatives haven't been very conservative over the last 12 years (particularly during May's reign, see above) and Labour aren't very socialist.

At the moment the only thing that the current government are doing well in my view is their support for Ukraine. I've no idea what Labour would have done had Miliband won in 2015, but somehow I'm not sure that it would have been as good. As for other areas of policy, I see the country falling apart but I don't see a real alternative presented by the opposition.

I'm in Wales where we've had a Labour government for 23 years, it's not all it's cracked up to be. The trains here are shocking, largely thanks to the no-growth franchise issued in 2003 under the Blair administration. Not just here, Northern also got a no-growth franchise issued in 2004 and Virgin CrossCountry was denied permission to order extra carriages by the government in the early 2000s. In the run-up to the 1997 general election, Labour pledged to reverse privatisation but never followed through on it, so you can see why I see little difference between the two parties. In other policy areas, Welsh Labour's administration has been hopeless too. Healthcare and education outcomes are consistently poorer than in England.

Unless one or both parties change tack drastically, the next election will be like deciding which sort of diarrhoea you'd rather have. Just looking up the Official Monster Raving Loony Party's manifesto, they seem like a good bet at the moment.

The Tories are out either way thankfully. Good riddance.

Have you seen the Russians burning off the gas they would normally supply to us & Europe via the Nordstream 1 pipeline? They are definitely sticking two fingers up at us.

Sorry that was a mistake, a funny one, should have been won't play but woke play is so much better.
Labour should have their game so together at this point in time. They should be lobbing hand grenade headlines every time a Labour MP opens their mouth. Look at how fiercely your all defending them here. Yet they are not. It is like some weird twilight world, as a Tory voter, who could swing I am constantly puzzled as to why Labour are AWOL.

Hope so

Hopefully

Half of them / us are women. So, you are wrong.

I can understand people not liking the Conservatives, but you need to ask yourself what have Labour done for this country?

Ever?

Erm, that would be nothing.

I would call myself a natural conservative voter but who the hell would ever vote for liz truss??? She is a truly incomprehensible abomination. Rishi wouldn’t get my vote either (rich, wants the power of being PM, doesn’t seem to give a shit about improving peoples lives), but Liz Truss???? I’d sooner vote Jeremy Corbyn, and for me that’s saying something!!!

Truss will hand deliver us a Labour government and I can’t wait!

Labour are not electable.
People won't vote for them.
Why are you not mad about this?

I think Labour will win but I don't see it making much difference. People are sick of politics and useless politicians, none of them really care about us, it's just a game to them, they all go backstage after the House of Commons is finished and get drunk together and laugh about how stupid "the plebs" are.

Well, there’s the NHS…
but if you don’t want to go back that far, all the stuff here. Honestly, you can’t believe what you wrote?

NHS has been pretty good.

they won their last two by elections and they're way ahead in the polling.

And on you squawk about how unelectable they are.

why don't you wait for the next GE and see what happens.

Sorted.

Trust? You think anyone will trust this bunch of Tories with anything? I wouldn’t trust them to run a bath, never mind the country.
And policies - at the last election people were shown labour policies without knowing whose they were and they were very popular. There were other issues then, both with the party and outside, but I don’t think it’ll be the same this time. People like Labour policies.

Genuinely embarrassed for you.

Here's hoping.

End of the day the Tories can win a vast majority of seats with just 30-40% of the vote in those particular constituencies due to the archiac voting system we have. The progressive vote is just too split and never seems to organise itself.

Appealing to the UKIP leaning types with hateful and spiteful policies is generally all they need to do to win an election.