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To think £6,000 a year energy bills are completely unsustainable

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Butterflyfluff · 22/08/2022 08:27

Following on from this thread but quite unbelievably the projected figure has gone from £4,200 to £6,000 now.

www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/4607670-to-think-that-very-few-people-can-manage-ps4200-energy-bills?page=40

Where will this all end?

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1dayatatime · 25/08/2022 21:11

user1477391263 · 25/08/2022 19:59

Worldwide, nuclear facilities on average take about five years to build. We need to get going now.

Actually new nuclear across western countries have all been massively delayed and massively o et budget

The Finnish project was supposed to take five years and it currently stands at 17 years and still not built:

www.powermag.com/finnish-nuclear-plant-under-construction-since-2005-faces-yet-another-delay/

Flammen Ville in France is 4 times over budget was supposed to take five years and it currently stands at 15 years and is still not built.

amp.france24.com/en/live-news/20220112-france-s-new-generation-nuclear-plant-delayed-again

Hinkley was supposed to take 7 years and is massively over budget and it construction currently stands at 14 years and it's still not built.

In short unless you want a rush job build with potential short cuts on safety as they do in China then new nuclear is really not the way to go.

GreenLunchBox · 25/08/2022 21:34

Bearsan · 22/08/2022 10:06

Big businesses run this country, the Tories are just their puppets.
Their only goal is to be mega, mega rich even if the rest of us starve/ freeze.

“Because the Tory Party functions purely as an administration team for billionaires who buy policy. Little more.

“Occasionally they’ll toss a sweetener to the masses.

“Something to keep them happy. Something superficial and meaningless to their everyday lives.”

twitter.com/MarinaPurkiss/status/1561294620490964994?t=j46gjIjkVSCpWzkeNmoLNQ&s=19

GreenLunchBox · 25/08/2022 21:48

thebellagio · 22/08/2022 11:28

why is there no appetite whatsoever to try and claw some of the £37 BILLION wasted on test and trace? The firms that took cash fraudulently to deliver PPE but never actually delivered a single item....How is that not criminal fraud?

Why is nothing being done to try and recoup that money? even if they only recovered a billion that would go a long way to helping people...

Or is it because it will showcase the utter incompetency of the government?

Corruption.

Us little people are sitting on the sidelines screaming about it on Mumsnet and Twitter but the people who have power to do something about it won't because it benefits them

We really are like third world countries now- the politicians squandering the country's money while the nation starves.My Nigerian friends have said the same about their country for decades. I guess it's our turn.

Eeksteek · 28/08/2022 18:23

Angelofthenortheast · 22/08/2022 11:42

@thelongconmom im not sure how spending time in nature will reduce emissions, but I agree that it's an essential solution for mental health.

I would say you're average person's energy consumption is: heating water to wash themselves, washing their clothes, keeping food fresh, and lighting and heating their house from the time it gets dark (so 4pm in winter). There's no way anyone can realistically cut down on these things in this freezing cold country.

Ultimately, businesses should cut back before any of us do. When I worked in a high street shop, we had the heater on full power all day because the doors were propped open to be more inviting to customers drifting in!

Almost all of our usage is 'background' use. You can see it when I make a coffee or put dinner on. Admittedly, there are some background things that make a difference. (I think the garage freezer is using a fair bit) but it's nothing massively extravagant.

ShesNotTheMessiah · 30/08/2022 09:37

For me, much of energy saving comes down to chipping away at little bits until they add up.

e.g. I measured the under cupboard strip lights in the kitchen and found they are using 40w between them. On all day (otherwise the kitchen gets dark) and that adds up to almost £200 at next year's prices. So they can get cut right down/off.

There is a little drink cooler fridge we inherited when we moved in. Tiny. Next year it'll cost £110 to run. So off that goes.

We have a small PC that runs hard drives where we store bought films. Next year: £105. Off that goes.

Freezers in the garage set to -22c. Changed tempt to -18c and saved around £50-75 over the next year.

The kettle, used for 15 mins a day (i.e. 3 or 4 full boils) will = £190 a year. So savings to be had there.

What has struck me, is just how often online help is outdated now prices have gone mad. When you look at advice regarding energy saving bulbs the line is often "they cost pennies". They don't anymore. We have energy saving smart bulbs that I installed because everyone was leaving lights on - these cut off in places like hallways where they are not needed full time. I've totted up the wattage/average use and calculated the total cost of these next year at £335. In the old days they would have been about £6.40 per month so not cost-prohibitive. But with next years projected costs, they are no longer cheap to run and their usage needs to be considered.

AtomicBlondeRose · 30/08/2022 10:33

@ShesNotTheMessiah I keep seeing - even in the last week - posts here on MN claiming that such and such a thing “costs pennies” to run.

Electric blankets, slow cookers, some light bulbs and my personal bugbear, heated airers - not saying people should stop using them at all but they are not necessarily very cheap to run.

ShesNotTheMessiah · 30/08/2022 10:51

Yup, even a 13w energy saving light bulb (a 100w equivalent), used for 5 hours a day = £20 a year if prices rise as expected.

Nothing costs pennies to run anymore Sad

I agree about heated airers. I just cannot get it to make financial sense to buy one - though appreciate everyone washes and dries in different ways so they may make sense for others.

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