To think £6,000 a year energy bills are completely unsustainable

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Following on from this thread but quite unbelievably the projected figure has gone from £4,200 to £6,000 now.

www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/4607670-to-think-that-very-few-people-can-manage-ps4200-energy-bills?page=40

Where will this all end?

Jesus Christ that woman. Of all the powerful intelligent women that could be in with a chance of power it's her. I daresay small children could come up with a better plan than that.

I don't suppose she intends it to get anywhere near being implemented, like most of the shit the pair of them have been coming out with during this leadership campaign, but even in that context it still sounds fucking deranged.

And because many of them have connections to oil and gas companies.

They would have been wined and dined by these people and charmed by them. Absolutely- these companies would have budgets for this because it protects their profits.

Until this changes, we are fucked.

GPs to write prescriptions for energy bills.

I saw this and despaired. Like the wait for a GP is not bad enough, without everyone trying to get a prescription for money off their energy bills. What. fucking farce.

Labour's is the only sensible policy - though I'd like to see something built it to encourage people to limit usage, e.g. the cap is held up to x kwh per person but usage above that gets progressively more costly per kwh, probably with some exceptions where fair.

It'll also need to last longer than 6 months, I suspect.

It is when you only receive about £500 every 4wks ESA...

How is it a cap if it's potentially going from £1200 to 6k - surely a cap is capped not continuously increased??!

If this happens it’s going to take away a chunk of disposable income for those of us who are comfortable at the moment. For those barely getting by to begin with its going to be utterly devastating and the choices they will face won’t be frivolous cost cutting- instead it will be do we eat or heat.

The cap is set based on the wholesale price, plus costs and a limited amount of profit. It's the wholesale price that has increased, hence the increase in the price cap.

I can afford it but my parents and Sister (DH & 2 kids), won’t be able to. As a result I will be expected to financially help out and that will ensure that I also struggle to make ends meet. Morally I can’t just let them struggle to heat their homes and feed themselves. My sister is in a right state worrying about it already.

same here. Will have to help my MIL heat her victorian terrace. And she WFH too.

To illustrate, in about 18 months, the wholesale price of gas has increased by about 5 to 6 times and electricity, around 4 times.

@BarbaraofSeville we all know the underlying causes. However, the government can't stand by and do nothing about the consequences.

The cap surely means that it cant go above £6000 not that peoples bills generally will be that much ! I hope

This. Boris should have been finished when what he said came to light. The Conservative party showed what they thought about the common people then. Nothing has changed.

We can absorb the extra costs, but like others that means not spending on the luxuries that we have and the ruin of those companies. Short term it’s the poor that are screwed, longer term we all are.

Big businesses run this country, the Tories are just their puppets.
Their only goal is to be mega, mega rich even if the rest of us starve/ freeze.

The svr cap is a limit on unit cost. £6000 is the predicted cost for a home using 12000kwh gas and 2900kwh electricity. Actual bills will be more or less based on usage.

Unfortunately we are in a place where the only option is unrest and to be honest it seems like they are antagonising people and are creating this chaos on purpose. This has always been a coordinated demolition of our wealth. Make money from chaos and instability.

People arent reading what is happening in other countries, so not seeing the long term future.

Those usage amounts aren't that much either. We use about that amount as a childfree couple in a small 2 bed semi. We could use less, but not hugely so and will be actively trying to cut down.

Anyone with a 4/5 bed who keeps the heating on 24/7 and does MN approved levels of washing, tumble drying and showering will be paying a lot more.

Compared with Liz Truss' brilliant idea to get GPs to write prescriptions for energy bills.

Good grief. I don't even know where to start with that. Surely even Truss can't be that stupid.

I have worked in the energy industry for 25 years, so from the time of de-regulation and have been saying for the last 5 years that it needs to be re-nationalised or at least run as a not for profit industry (which amounts to the same thing).
The current situation is not the fault of the energy suppliers as it's down to the increased wholesale cost of gas which they have no control over, but the fact that they need to still try to make a profit makes things worse. Most of the smaller suppliers have gone bust and the larger ones will have seen a big drop in profits but there is still profit there .

Tell me about it. Our electricity was at 7000kwh in January - 5 people, 4 bed, electric car, electric kitchen, tech mad kids, over zealous laundry habits😬

We fixed in January, made some changes with usage and got solar power and home batteries at the end of spring, otherwise we'd be in for a hiding come October.

No it won't. Ever. It never does.

As I posted on another thread, it's shortsighted from an economic pov. The Tories' friends in big business rely upon their workforces. There's no incentive to work if even putting in fulltime hours, you can't afford the basics for survival ie food and heating.
They'll keep squeezing as long as people continue to work to produce their profits. But as PP said, sectors dependent on disposable income will disappear. The entire economy will stagnate. Because it's not only households that will struggle with bills, so will small businesses.
As for Truss, the fact they're even considering her shows they don't understand why Boris had to leave. They also don't care about keeping the UK together because there's no reason at all for the devolved nations to want to stay with such a morally and economically bankrupt batch of politicians.

Exactly. I'd go part time in a heartbeat if I was just as skint working full time. Who wouldn't? Might as well not bother. It may well happen! People might be forced to go part time anyway or be made redundant. What's the point in finding another job if you still can't afford your gas and electric?