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To think size 18 is plus size and not 'hardly plus size'

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sanddownthatwall · 22/08/2022 00:09

The poster, with a very large following, is saying a size 18 isn't really plus size by much, and that 'most people (in the UK), are above a Size 16?

Really? I don't know that many people above a size 16. I really don't. I know lots and lots of size 12/14 and thought that was about average? It's usually the first sizes to sell out

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Quincythequince · 22/08/2022 12:01

ExtraOnion · 22/08/2022 11:59

.. but I don’t care … I know being fat is unhealthy .. but so are a lot of things. I’m am very happy in life, with myself, with my husband, with my friends and family.

I don’t get this.
Why would you not care about this?

MinglingFlamingo · 22/08/2022 12:02

I think it depends on the clothing and the brand. Sometimes on the exact same shopping trip I can fit into clothes ranging from a size 12-16. So someone might well have size 14-18 in their wardrobe isn't that bigger stretch from that.
So long as the clothes feel comfortable and they feel good in them who cares.

Tabbouleh · 22/08/2022 12:02

Mousemat25 · 22/08/2022 11:58

I don’t count calories and am slim. If I start to weigh more I eat less of the things I know are high in calories. It’s not tricky.

This worked so well for me until I was 45:) Then suddenly it didn't! I think weight loss is very tricky and complex, which is why it is so emotive.

EmmetEmma · 22/08/2022 12:02

Also - it is very easy to make assumptions about peoples eating and exercise habits from their size but it really isn’t so straightforward so I think less judgement would be helpful.

Snog · 22/08/2022 12:03

It's a public health issue for other people due to air pollution and climate change when you drive your car. We don't publicly shame people for it. Let's not shame people who are overweight.

ExtraOnion · 22/08/2022 12:04

Quincythequince · 22/08/2022 12:01

I don’t get this.
Why would you not care about this?

Life is not always about longevity .. it’s about enjoying yourself.

Rosehugger · 22/08/2022 12:04

@MinglingFlamingo Yes clothes sizes are unhelpful. I fit comfortably into size 12 tops from M&S. However, I'm 13st. I don't need to be 13st unless I can grow six inches in height!

EmmetEmma · 22/08/2022 12:05

Christ, there are so many nasty and smug comments on this thread. @Quincythequince presumably ExtraOnion has felt some degree of inadequacy as a result of their weight at some stage and decided to overcome it by focusing on the positives in their life and being happy. This is a good thing for anyone

WayneScott · 22/08/2022 12:07

Size 18 is very fat. Especially given 'vanity sizing'.

Quincythequince · 22/08/2022 12:07

ExtraOnion · 22/08/2022 12:04

Life is not always about longevity .. it’s about enjoying yourself.

I agree, although it doesn’t have to be one or the other

There was a very interesting show about extra weight on younger people (females in particular) whereby metabolically they were in good health when assessed by clinicians. We more talk in females in their twenties.

Still, you are making an informed decision so it seems, and are happy which is very, very important.

I wish you well.

CanDo92 · 22/08/2022 12:08

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ExtraOnion · 22/08/2022 12:09

EmmetEmma · 22/08/2022 12:05

Christ, there are so many nasty and smug comments on this thread. @Quincythequince presumably ExtraOnion has felt some degree of inadequacy as a result of their weight at some stage and decided to overcome it by focusing on the positives in their life and being happy. This is a good thing for anyone

Thanks for the quote … just to correct you though, I do not feel any “inadequacy” due to my weight.

I buy locally sourced food, and organic food as it’s better for the environment - I’m not going to judge someone who can’t do that.

Quincythequince · 22/08/2022 12:09

EmmetEmma · 22/08/2022 12:05

Christ, there are so many nasty and smug comments on this thread. @Quincythequince presumably ExtraOnion has felt some degree of inadequacy as a result of their weight at some stage and decided to overcome it by focusing on the positives in their life and being happy. This is a good thing for anyone

Unlike you, I am making no assumptions. Hence why I asked the question (and respectfully so). I am allowed to do that and presumable extraonion in saying she knew this and was happy anyway, might have expected that.

Stop trying to tell other people what they mean, and give your take what other people must be feeling/have felt

The level of ‘shushing’ on here is remarkable.

CanDo92 · 22/08/2022 12:10

ExtraOnion · 22/08/2022 11:59

.. but I don’t care … I know being fat is unhealthy .. but so are a lot of things. I’m am very happy in life, with myself, with my husband, with my friends and family.

Which is fine, but it’s also fine for others to make a judgement based on this. Being happy consuming as many resources as two normal-sized people isn’t a morally neutral decision.

Quincythequince · 22/08/2022 12:11

ExtraOnion · 22/08/2022 12:09

Thanks for the quote … just to correct you though, I do not feel any “inadequacy” due to my weight.

I buy locally sourced food, and organic food as it’s better for the environment - I’m not going to judge someone who can’t do that.

See what happens when you categorically state your assumptions.

You sound healthy and happy extra - all power to you!

dribblewibble · 22/08/2022 12:12

Being happy consuming as many resources as two normal-sized people isn’t a morally neutral decision.

So am I supposed to feel guilty that I consume more health services resources than a healthy person?

Oilyoilyoilgob · 22/08/2022 12:12

@Ithinkitsenoughnow that is so true-my Fitbit has been a godsend to see this. I’m 11 stone 2 lbs, 5 foot 5 and a size 14/16 (more 16) lost over two stone since the start of Covid and I’m still fat. At the gym last night I did a 55 min walk, gradually uphill at a good pace to get me sweating and out of puff and I burned 377 calories.

Good yes, but Jesus it made me think of how easy it is to put those 377 calories in my mouth and the absolute effort it is to burn them off. I would’ve never have classed myself as a gym bunny but I absolutely love the endorphins afterwards and it is sobering to see in real time the effort needed to burn cals off vs eating in order to lose weight.

although still overweight (I’d ideally like to be 19 stone) I can say having already lost 2 stone that I feel fitter and so much healthier-my back and knees feel better and I have more energy and stamina. I think in our lifestyles, getting more access to food anywhere and anytime and more sedentary jobs, we are becoming as a nation more fat. I had a general anaesthetic last month and was asked my height and weight for them to calculate the anaesthesia. I’m determined to get my weight down for health reasons and it’s this that has really kept me on track-I’m enjoying being healthy and fit.

CanDo92 · 22/08/2022 12:14

dribblewibble · 22/08/2022 12:12

Being happy consuming as many resources as two normal-sized people isn’t a morally neutral decision.

So am I supposed to feel guilty that I consume more health services resources than a healthy person?

Jesus. Will you please stop trying to insert yourself into every conversation that is clearly not about you? What is your problem?

Unscented · 22/08/2022 12:14

ExtraOnion · 22/08/2022 12:04

Life is not always about longevity .. it’s about enjoying yourself.

This is the issue though. If you're very overweight, the health issues might not kill you quickly, but overweight people do face an early decline in quality of life.

Quincythequince · 22/08/2022 12:17

dribblewibble · 22/08/2022 12:12

Being happy consuming as many resources as two normal-sized people isn’t a morally neutral decision.

So am I supposed to feel guilty that I consume more health services resources than a healthy person?

Yeah, you go on and make it about you!
It’s not about you of course, but you make ir about you!

🙄

BlueLakes · 22/08/2022 12:19

5128gap · 22/08/2022 11:58

Does it also concern you that I'm a healthy weight, fit as a fiddle, live cleanly and so could well go on into my 90s, with the tax payer paying my pension for the next 30 years? Not to mention expensive social care in the quite likely event my healthy body outlasts my mental capacity?
I don't agree with using its NOYB to close down an interesting discussion, but I do think justifying the right to an opinion on financial grounds is flawed.

Yeah, this. It's really not that simple anyways. I'm pretty sure there are studies that have shown smokers to actually be less of a burden on health systems than non-smokers. I believe costs of smoking-related illnesses were shown to be off-set by dying younger and paying a lot of tax on cigarettes.

The health-risks related to excess weight are also a bit more complex than people like to claim. Subcutaneous fat, especially below the waist, is massively less dangerous than visceral fat, for example. Your ethnicity and genetic predisposition to certain illnesses will also be important in this context.
As someone with fat thighs and a large arse, but fairly small waist and perfect bloods (touches wood), I don't appreciate people wanting to police my (very healthy) diet just because they "pay tax" (don't we all...). And why is weight the one topic where people feel they have a right to poke their noses into other people's business "because the NHS"? If we're concerned about the burden on the tax payer, I can think of a few much more obvious and relevant places to start. Thankfully, I don't live in the UK and have private health insurance, so idiotic takes like these are a lot easier to ignore.

Quincythequince · 22/08/2022 12:20

dribblewibble · 22/08/2022 12:12

Being happy consuming as many resources as two normal-sized people isn’t a morally neutral decision.

So am I supposed to feel guilty that I consume more health services resources than a healthy person?

Most people on here really aren’t and probably won’t be giving you a second (hateful) thought in the way you think they are.

You really need to move on from seeking persecution I think.

TeapotTitties · 22/08/2022 12:21

Quincythequince · 22/08/2022 12:01

I don’t get this.
Why would you not care about this?

People start to care if/when it catches up with them. It's easy to think 'Oh well that's for the future' until their joints become too strained to work, or they get diabetes or weight related cancers.

I was exactly the same about smoking over 20 years ago, and convinced myself I didn't care.

EmmetEmma · 22/08/2022 12:22

@ExtraOnion I’m sorry, I really didn’t mean it to sound so clumsy

What I meant is that we are all subject to societal pressures on beauty. To an extent we either have to feel inadequate as no one lives up to them forever, or we have to reject them and be happy and accepting of who we each are.

After posting- I realised how it sounded fucking weird and almost offensive - I promise that wasn’t the angle I was taking in the slightest.

Kelly1991 · 22/08/2022 12:23

If you cant do it because of disability then that's OK there is those who have no excuse there just pure lazy that's more what im talking about.

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