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Feel a bit shakey after ds 10s behaviour

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BearGryllsDad · 21/08/2022 16:19

For reasons I won't go into I had to take the DCs into town with me to do some exercise. Afterward I took them into M and S as I wanted to check out the sale and get the kids a meal in the cafe (kids eat free, or one does anyway). I have never heard so much moaning and playing up as this from ds who is 10 nearly 11. At one point he was crying because he finished his food and leave even though I still had food on my plate and my drink. His little brother was happily entertaining himself, but ds was making a scene to the extent some people were noticing.

Then whilst I had a quick look arousnd the sale items, mum, mum, mum I want to go. Mum, mum, mum. You said one shop. And on and on he went. I told him to give me five minutes, but he couldn't. At one point he lay on the floor feigning something. He started winding up his younger brother calling him a weirdo and sniggering at him. Pointing out pink t shirts and saying they were for him. In the end I told him to stop as he was being infuriating. I didn't loose my temper and kept it together. But I am sitting at home feeling an angry, shakey mess. I've even had a few tears. I often feels like he tries to control things and play up if we have to run errands or so something that is not centered around him. As soon as he gets home he plugs into YouTube and that may be part of the problem. I know m and s is boring but should he be able to tolerate 30 minutes of boredom at his age without making such an embarrassing scene?

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Pumperthepumper · 21/08/2022 18:59

Kanaloa · 21/08/2022 18:57

I’ve addressed that. If she feels he’s really not capable of everyday tasks such as sitting through a meal and shopping with his family she needs to access professional support because he will seriously struggle in other areas.

If it’s simply because he knows this will result in the patented pumper parenting method (mum now makes sure she never does anything she would enjoy as she’s too frightened of his tantrums) then he needs firm boundaries and communication to ensure he starts to learn appropriate social behaviours and becomes aware that he can’t scream and tantrum his way into everything revolving around him.

So desperate for an argument Kanaloa. At no point did I say mum can never enjoy anything. I said not to set her kid up to fail. It’s bizarre that’s so contentious to you.

YanTanTetheraPetheraPimp · 21/08/2022 18:59

mountainsunsets · 21/08/2022 17:01

You're still not answering all the questions about what this "exercise" was that you had to do.

But let's be fair - an M&S café isn't a treat for a 10yo boy. You went there because it was convenient and there was a sale on you wanted to browse!

So what if the OP wanted to browse?
That doesn’t give him a reason for his frankly childish behaviour, he’s 10 ffs not 3!
I would have be absolutely furious if my DS had ever behaved like this!

Pumperthepumper · 21/08/2022 19:00

Wouldloveanother · 21/08/2022 18:57

I don’t roll around on the floor and cry, no.

Are you ten?

SleepingAgent · 21/08/2022 19:00

Lucky you! This kid can’t

Can't???HmmHmmHmm

How about doesn't want to? That's a bit closer to the reality. Of course he CAN, he just wanted to get home to his screen. Confused

Wouldloveanother · 21/08/2022 19:00

Pumperthepumper · 21/08/2022 19:00

Are you ten?

Are 10 year olds 2?

Johnnysgirl · 21/08/2022 19:00

Pumperthepumper · 21/08/2022 18:53

This one does.

Did. Once. May not do again because he wasn't given in to and learnt that there's no percentage in it.
If you always take the line of least resistance, Pumper, your children may not be as pleasant to be around as you fondly imagine.

Kanaloa · 21/08/2022 19:01

Pumperthepumper · 21/08/2022 18:59

So desperate for an argument Kanaloa. At no point did I say mum can never enjoy anything. I said not to set her kid up to fail. It’s bizarre that’s so contentious to you.

Not contentious, just ridiculous to say that expecting a boy of almost 11 to behave in a socially acceptable way is ‘setting him up to fail’ and the only possible solution is to make sure he never feels bored or annoyed, by stopping doing things that you enjoy if he kicks off. You’re being silly.

Pumperthepumper · 21/08/2022 19:02

Wouldloveanother · 21/08/2022 19:00

Are 10 year olds 2?

No, they’re not. This particular ten year old tantrums though. So the OP can either work with that, or continue to bore him shitless then punish him.

Pumperthepumper · 21/08/2022 19:03

Kanaloa · 21/08/2022 19:01

Not contentious, just ridiculous to say that expecting a boy of almost 11 to behave in a socially acceptable way is ‘setting him up to fail’ and the only possible solution is to make sure he never feels bored or annoyed, by stopping doing things that you enjoy if he kicks off. You’re being silly.

No, you’re being silly (or just can’t understand very well) because at no point did I say he should never be bored.

Wouldloveanother · 21/08/2022 19:03

Pumperthepumper · 21/08/2022 19:02

No, they’re not. This particular ten year old tantrums though. So the OP can either work with that, or continue to bore him shitless then punish him.

This 10 year old is NT and presumably goes to school where he sits for an hour or two at a time without crying and rolling around on the floor. Life doesn’t work around individuals unless they have SEN. You’re setting your kids up to fail in the adult world if you teach them that it does.

Pumperthepumper · 21/08/2022 19:03

Johnnysgirl · 21/08/2022 19:00

Did. Once. May not do again because he wasn't given in to and learnt that there's no percentage in it.
If you always take the line of least resistance, Pumper, your children may not be as pleasant to be around as you fondly imagine.

I don’t imagine anyone wants my kids on the floor in M&S. Well, let’s see what he does next time then.

Pumperthepumper · 21/08/2022 19:04

Wouldloveanother · 21/08/2022 19:03

This 10 year old is NT and presumably goes to school where he sits for an hour or two at a time without crying and rolling around on the floor. Life doesn’t work around individuals unless they have SEN. You’re setting your kids up to fail in the adult world if you teach them that it does.

He won’t sit for an hour plus cafe time plus sale time at school. So that’s a false comparison.

Wouldloveanother · 21/08/2022 19:04

Bore him shitless by taking him for lunch 😂 gosh there are some pandering parents around these days aren’t there.

Pumperthepumper · 21/08/2022 19:05

Wouldloveanother · 21/08/2022 19:04

Bore him shitless by taking him for lunch 😂 gosh there are some pandering parents around these days aren’t there.

Did you miss the hit about the forty minute exercise plus cafe or……?

Pumperthepumper · 21/08/2022 19:05

Plus sale!

mountainsunsets · 21/08/2022 19:05

Wouldloveanother · 21/08/2022 19:04

Bore him shitless by taking him for lunch 😂 gosh there are some pandering parents around these days aren’t there.

Are you deliberately ignoring the ref of the day?

Kanaloa · 21/08/2022 19:06

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Wouldloveanother · 21/08/2022 19:07

Pumperthepumper · 21/08/2022 19:05

Plus sale!

Oh shit I forgot about the sale 😱 the sale! How could I forget the sale! Basically making them watch a 6 hour chess tournament followed by making them read War and Peace before bed. Mental torture in my opinion.

🙄

Pumperthepumper · 21/08/2022 19:08

Wouldloveanother · 21/08/2022 19:07

Oh shit I forgot about the sale 😱 the sale! How could I forget the sale! Basically making them watch a 6 hour chess tournament followed by making them read War and Peace before bed. Mental torture in my opinion.

🙄

What an odd response to the idea of working with your kid.

LemonSwan · 21/08/2022 19:09

Bless him he has no tact.

I remember as a child the utter boredom of standing around waiting while my mother clothes browsed.

I learnt very quickly that the best way to get her out of their quickly was to be excited by the clothes and run ahead and call her over to see the item. Then ahead again lol. Essentially willing her through the shop towards the exit.

I think that worked twice. 🤣 She very quickly figured out what I was up to!

thingsarestrange · 21/08/2022 19:09

It is not acceptable behaviour.
I would turn off whatever he is watching and tell him that was not acceptable.
no more screen time tonight and await the apology, might not be until tomorrow. But no privileges until he states that he understands that was not acceptable. You don’t need that sort of behaviour in your life.

FitFat · 21/08/2022 19:09

He's normal. And annoying. But normal. I meqn that in a reassuring way. I am sure you are trying to teach him patience like we all do with ur kids but sadly they're really selfish and cheeky at times! I am sure he is not Always like that though. Lost it at mine yesterday too. Bring on September..

I am not gonna RTFT becauese I don't want to read any holier than thou parents talking about how well they discipline their own children.

Runmybathforme · 21/08/2022 19:10

ghostyslovesheets · 21/08/2022 16:27

Tearful, angry and shaking over a mild bit of bored behaviour?

Mate he's approaching teens - he behaved like a normal kid being a bit of a dick - how on earth did you manage the twos?

Really ? No way would I consider this normal behaviour. He's old enough to conduct himself properly, without the histrionics. I agree with others here, the dreaded YouTube needs curtailing.

Pumperthepumper · 21/08/2022 19:11

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Stop trailing him around to exercise plus cafe plus sale. ‘And’ is a connective.

jewishmum · 21/08/2022 19:12

I probably wouldn't browse the sales with kids in tow because quite frankly it's boring for them. Especially as son already seemed tired.