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To think truss will be a disaster for uk?

265 replies

Ilovemycatalot · 20/08/2022 13:50

All the polls say she is ahead of sunak but I’m dreading her getting into power. Can anyone think of any positives as I’m struggling. I’m not that keen on sunak but given the choice I’d much rather him.

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GreenLunchBox · 20/08/2022 14:30

She's dangerous for the country.

She's swanning around loving all this, acting like she's some kind of Hollywood star now. 🤮

twitter.com/localnotail/status/1560784545976295424?t=f565DTQJDDLzfZIIWA326w&s=19

RemusLupinsBiggestGroupie · 20/08/2022 14:31

The problem is less about Truss herself and more about the Tory party and the fact they're prepared to let people like Johnson and Truss lead them. My only hope is that Truss is so obviously awful that Labour will be a walk-in at the next GE.

I think people who look back on Johnson as the lesser evil are already forgetting exactly what he did/allowed/tried to do.

GreenLunchBox · 20/08/2022 14:32

I didn't think I could despise anybody more than Truss but that gurning wide-mouthed thing she does at the end of the Twitter video I just posted sends me over the edge

Anothernamechangeplease · 20/08/2022 14:32

No, I think Liz Truss will be disastrous for our country, but I certainly don't agree that we will look back on the Boris years with fondness. I think we will look back and realise that Boris helped to normalise the incredibly low standards that made it possible for someone like Liz Truss to become PM. We will see that Boris made it seem almost normal to be completely incompetent and unfit for public office.

And we will wonder what the fuck the electorate was thinking when it voted the Tories into power, over and over again.

Mercurial123 · 20/08/2022 14:33

Allthegoodnamesarechosen · 20/08/2022 14:30

I like Liz Truss. She works hard, is sensible and has always done a better job than people expected.
of course, compared to intellectual giants like Rayner and Abboot, she’s a bit lacking.

You really are a poor judge of character.

GreenLunchBox · 20/08/2022 14:34

GreenLunchBox · 20/08/2022 14:32

I didn't think I could despise anybody more than Truss but that gurning wide-mouthed thing she does at the end of the Twitter video I just posted sends me over the edge

Sorry, I meant despise anyone more than Johnson

orangeisthenewpuce · 20/08/2022 14:34

Allthegoodnamesarechosen · 20/08/2022 14:30

I like Liz Truss. She works hard, is sensible and has always done a better job than people expected.
of course, compared to intellectual giants like Rayner and Abboot, she’s a bit lacking.

GrinGrinGrinGrin

neverbeenskiing · 20/08/2022 14:35

I loathe Sunak and would never vote for him but Pound Shop Thatcher is going to be even worse. Like Johnson, she is spineless, dishonest, arrogant and will put her own self-interest ahead of the country and it's people every single time. I am genuinely worried for the vulnerable children and families I work with, I am worried about our already struggling public services and those who depend on them. She will be a disaster, and like Johnson she won't even care about the damage she does, which could be considerable even if she is stupid enough to call a GE.

Sunnysideup999 · 20/08/2022 14:35

She has absolutely zero clue about economic policy.
her ideas are shocking at best, dangerous at worst.

AuntMasha · 20/08/2022 14:35

I don’t have any confidence in Liz Truss.

endofline · 20/08/2022 14:38

I am dreading it too! I get the impression that she is not that bright, and in particular lacks depth of thinking, has poor political judgement ( that ‘ignore NIcola Sturgeon’ must have had the SNP hierarchy high fiving all over the place. They couldn’t have hoped for a comment that more feeds their narrative if they had scripted and paid for it themselves). And has no understanding, or concern for, people living in poverty.

It actually makes me think members of political parties should not pick leaders if they pick Trump, Corbyn and Trump, none of whom were the parliamentary party favorite, all of whom were ( or will be) disasters for the party.

Anothernamechangeplease · 20/08/2022 14:39

JugglingJanuary · 20/08/2022 14:29

BJ has his faults, like ALL politicians.

he was still a FAR better option than Truss or Sunak. or starmer et al.

Still a lot of whingers will have got their wish. BoJo out at any cost. I hope they own that now.

I am more than happy to "own" the fact that I wanted Boris out, and I wouldn't want him back under any circumstances. He was patently unfit for public office.

It is possible to believe this, while also believing that Truss will be a disaster. If she is truly the best that the Tory party has to offer, then let's have a general election and get someone better into office, rather than settling for a lying, incompetent narcissist because that's the best that the Tories can do.

baroqueandblue · 20/08/2022 14:39

@Allthegoodnamesarechosen

"Sensible"?!

GreenLunchBox · 20/08/2022 14:40

The silver lining is that judging by the cabinet of fools she's assembling (haha moving Kwarteng in next door...classic!! Wonder what hubby thinks) she will be unspeakably awful but we won't have the distraction of that clown Johnson. So it will be hopefully glaringly obvious very quickly, even to the politically apathetic and they will get booted out at the GE.

Anothernamechangeplease · 20/08/2022 14:40

GreenLunchBox · 20/08/2022 14:30

She's dangerous for the country.

She's swanning around loving all this, acting like she's some kind of Hollywood star now. 🤮

twitter.com/localnotail/status/1560784545976295424?t=f565DTQJDDLzfZIIWA326w&s=19

That video is cringeworthy.

RemusLupinsBiggestGroupie · 20/08/2022 14:40

Yes, the 'Ignore Nicola S' thing is about as statesmanlike as Gav's 'Russia should go away and shut up'. Intellectual giants, the pair of them.

RemusLupinsBiggestGroupie · 20/08/2022 14:41

Anothernamechangeplease · 20/08/2022 14:39

I am more than happy to "own" the fact that I wanted Boris out, and I wouldn't want him back under any circumstances. He was patently unfit for public office.

It is possible to believe this, while also believing that Truss will be a disaster. If she is truly the best that the Tory party has to offer, then let's have a general election and get someone better into office, rather than settling for a lying, incompetent narcissist because that's the best that the Tories can do.

Yes, yes and yes.

endofline · 20/08/2022 14:42

RemusLupinsBiggestGroupie · 20/08/2022 14:31

The problem is less about Truss herself and more about the Tory party and the fact they're prepared to let people like Johnson and Truss lead them. My only hope is that Truss is so obviously awful that Labour will be a walk-in at the next GE.

I think people who look back on Johnson as the lesser evil are already forgetting exactly what he did/allowed/tried to do.

Yeah, but it shows what a hopeless shower the Labour Party are, if their only hope of being elected is if the Tories make themselves viciously unelectable

Our political system is currently fucked if the option facing the electorate at the next election is dumb or dumber.

balalake · 20/08/2022 14:43

I disagreed with almost all the policies that Mrs Thatcher brought in and the lasting impact it had on the country.

However, I think if she was alive today and saw the state of the modern Conservative Party quite rightly she would be horrified.

Novum · 20/08/2022 14:44

For once, I'm praying that a politician will break their promises. What she's been promising to her current very right-wing electorate is terrifying.

topcat2014 · 20/08/2022 14:45

I'd quite like the PM To be someone who didn't have affairs.

Call me old fashioned..

baroqueandblue · 20/08/2022 14:47

The clue's in the name, a bit like a word ladder.

TRUMP
TRUSP
TRUSS

Just as, in two simple moves, the country lurches from chaos to disaster Hmm

RemusLupinsBiggestGroupie · 20/08/2022 14:48

what a hopeless shower the Labour Party are, if their only hope of being elected is if the Tories make themselves viciously unelectable

I actually don't think that about the Labour Party. I think there are thing KS should be doing, but I don't think they're a 'hopeless shower' and compared to the Tories they're like the Mother Fucking Theresa Party.

AuntMasha · 20/08/2022 14:49

The world has unfortunately been littered with spectacularly crappy, unpopular leaders for the past few years. Bolsanaro in Brazil, Bozo the Clown in the U.K., ScoMo in Oz, Arderne in NZ, Scholz in Germany, Trudeau in Canada, Macron in France, Orban in Hungary, the monstrous Putin, Xi the genocidal madman in China and to top it all, Trump threatening to do an ‘I’ll be back!’ number in the US. Has it always been this bad?

SerendipityJane · 20/08/2022 14:50

What a l;ot of ungrateful whingers you are ! How fickle you are !

Does no one think we should be thanking Boris, Liz, Rishi, Grant, Sajid, and their selflessly dedicated teams working for a pittance of a few hundred thousand a year for delivering us from the chaos that would have been Labour. Strikes, inflation, a crisis of confidence, every possible public service on it's knees.

People on this thread need to take a long hard look at themselves.

And that isn't sarcasm or invective. Somebody voted these bastards in. I may be old. I many not have the skills needed to navigate modern society. But I haven't forgotten how statistics work.

Anyway, looks like the planet is (as ever) one step ahead. Mass tree death is just another factor in the acceleration of climate change. Fewer trees=even higher temps. It's more than likely people will look back on this thread in 2 or 3 years time and wonder why worrying about someone as ineffectual as Liz Truss was the topic of the day rather than the ongoing climate shift. I'm starting to look at how many rivers make borders between countries. Because in 10 years time they may not be there. Even the Thames is trying to escape the UK. I wonder where it will end up ?