To think truss will be a disaster for uk?

[Ilovemycatalot]

All the polls say she is ahead of sunak but I’m dreading her getting into power. Can anyone think of any positives as I’m struggling. I’m not that keen on sunak but given the choice I’d much rather him.

Corbyn would have bankrupted this country within five years.

Whereas Johnson has managed it in less than three.

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Spot on.

This is why I hope she wins….

I can't believe what a shitshow this all is. I can't even enjoy some schadenfreude because we all have to live in this mess

I never thought that in my lifetime Thatcher would be looked back on kindly ( people saying she at least was competent, hardworking and, you know, not a criminal)

The Tories can't EVER claim to be the financially responsible ones now they have squandered all our money. Spaffed it up the fucking wall in handouts to their mates

In my view, capitalism is eating itself.

making the necessities of life (food, housing energy) unaffordable. Where it isn't, making it unusable (water).

and for what? Profit, that's what. And what good is profit when there is no one to buy your goods, pay for your services (restaurants, pubs, cinemas ect)?

and the NHS? Well, the prevailing political opinion seems to be that we should privatise it (because it's worked so very well for energy, water, rail ect). But who will pay for the treatment? Only those who invested in the sale of energy, water and council housing.

So, in the end, those with "money" will have nothing to do with it. The restaurants, theatres, water works, energy generators will be shut. Because the people who worked there will have gone, because they cannot afford to live in the places they formally inhabited.

it's like capitalists have read The Ragged Trousered Philanthropist, and taken entirely the wrong message from it, in regard to excess pro duction.

@GreenLunchBox

"Are you saying the Tories care about climate change? Did you not hear Truss said in one of the hustings that one of the saddest sights is fields full of solar panels?

Did you not hear they voted to dump raw sewage in our rivers now they can because we're out of the EU?

The NHS confederation have said we're facing a humanitarian crisis. Were apparently a first world country. Ive only ever heard 'humanitarian crisis' applied to poor countries before.The Tories have done this.

So quit with the whataboutery."

First of all, don't tell me what to do.
Secondly, nowhere in my post did I mention any of the Conservatives caring about climate change, I am more than well aware they don't.

FYI raw sewage has always been discharged into rivers and seas since, well since there's been sewers. It happens in every country and absolutely nothing to do with the EU or Brexit. Are some of the discharges illegal? Yes. Should the water companies do more? Yes. Will it ever stop completely? Not unless you'd fancy sewage backing up into your home.
Finally I don't really understand why you're blathering about the NHS in response to my post, unless it's meant to be ironic given you then started talking about my 'whataboutery.'

Ok 😂

As much as I don’t like the SNP- I’m starting to understand why they want independence.
Firstly they voted to remain in the EU, and have been dragged out of it, by English voters.
Secondly,they keep getting Tory governments in Westminster.

I can see Sturgeon’s frustration.

It's just my opinion, but I think that the Scottish people would vote for independence in a heartbeat given another chance.

FYI raw sewage has always been discharged into rivers and seas since, well since there's been sewers. It happens in every country and absolutely nothing to do with the EU or Brexit

Sewage going into the sea has gone up 2500%. Do keep up, it’s like you’re trying to convince people swimming in shit is somehow normal or reasonable. Ffs

Poor quality gaslighting there

If they did there would be a lot of people moving there.

A spot local to me has been used for bathing, splashing around, days out for the family etc. for decades, all perfectly fine and the water healthy. It was recently classified by the Environmental Agency as one of the worst river-based health hazards in the country as a direct result of the changes around dumping sewage into it. Loads and loads of children and families have become ill after swimming in the waters, because, of course, they weren't made aware before the EA did their tests.

Absolutely disgusting.

The Tories can't EVER claim to be the financially responsible ones now they have squandered all our money. Spaffed it up the fucking wall in handouts to their mates

Except they will claim exactly that, and stupid people will believe them and nod along.

Yep 🙄🤔

lljkk do you think that boris will be pm again ?

Tories are all vile. They all hate the poor and working class and always will.

You have noticed, haven't you, that Corbyn isn't leader of the Labour Party any more?

And it's widely recognised that Gordon Brown was way more competent as Chancellor than any subsequent Conservative incumbent.

She'll be shit.

The increases are because the EA made the water companies install monitors on all CSOs and SSOs, so there is now the data available that didn't exist before.
They were designed to spill in exceptional rainfall events (of course what was seen as exceptional when they were built is rapidly becoming more common place due to climate change) with the assumption that any sewage would be very diluted by the volume of rainfall. The amount they're used isn't acceptable, and the water companies absolutely need to get that sorted, but it's ridiculous to think it didn't used to happen.
(Oh and if Liz Truss does get in and manages to deregulate the water industry it'll get a lot worse).

She is a disaster for Northern Ireland as trying to break the good friday agreement and trying to break the agreement that they made for Brexit. Do not like her at all and not biggest fan of his but for some reason think she has no empathy at all for the people struggling in the uk with high bills and just do not take to her.

but it's ridiculous to think it didn't used to happen

Can you provide a link please that backs up your theory that there are no more sewage realises into sea than before, and that it’s simply down to it being measured now?

Plenty being written about how incredible the increases are. This from LBC. Nothing about new monitoring methods.

In 2016, the Environment Agency recorded 100,533 hours' worth of spills. By 2021, that figure had rocketed to 2,667,452

Seriously? You can only worry about the new PM if you vote for their party?
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Oh don't be stupid. It's this kind of tribalism that has brought us to the point we are.
/ never voted conservative before everyone jumps on me

@entropynow well as long as your ramblings make sense to you.