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To think it's odd that our first 'Period Dignity Officer' is a man?

276 replies

Bobby80 · 16/08/2022 21:21

So pretty much what the title says. The first Period Dignity Officer has been appointed and they are male. One one hand I'm thinking 'WTF' and the other I'm thinking this is a very good PR stint/opportunity to actively involve men in the conversation.
male Period Dignity Officer

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bleedingmydignityaway · 17/08/2022 08:51

And one to the college.

https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/perioddignityyregionalleaddoff

Tha · 17/08/2022 09:01

@bleedingmydignityaway ahhh that's good to see! Interested to hear their response because the whole thing reeks of jobs for the boys. Or husbands. Or blackmailers Grin.

You can't say he's the strongest candidate for the job in three completely different roles with three completely different skillsets and experience requirements without serious questions about the decision making process. And the fact this job is £10k more than similar community development roles in the council area STINKS.

mumda · 17/08/2022 09:26

Short recruitment time. Interesting job history closely linked to someone else. Send it to private eye.

motherofcatsandbears · 17/08/2022 09:28

That’s the price of equality.

Maireas · 17/08/2022 09:31

motherofcatsandbears · 17/08/2022 09:28

That’s the price of equality.

Would you say that if a white person got a job relating to black people's only issues?
Tell black people that's the price they pay for equality?.

Maireas · 17/08/2022 09:32

mumda · 17/08/2022 09:26

Short recruitment time. Interesting job history closely linked to someone else. Send it to private eye.

Have you? Great idea.

ParsleySageRosemary · 17/08/2022 09:32

motherofcatsandbears · 17/08/2022 09:28

That’s the price of equality.

No, because equality does not simply mean the same. Women are not biologically the same as men. There has always been allowance within the Equality law to allow for genuine sex difference. Periods are a genuine sex based difference and the post will be representing and aiming at one sex only. Largely aimed at youngsters as well, at a particularly vulnerable time of life.

Terfydactyl · 17/08/2022 09:48

Cocolapew · 17/08/2022 00:41

Here he is with some other man mansplaining showing a girl and her mum choices of sanitary products.
That's not just ringing up schools to check their supply of pads and tampons 😒

Is this real? You got a link?
Assuming it is real,
Omfg so the job is not just ringing around places to see if they have *products or not, it's going out there and talking to women and girls about periods.
And someone thought this was a great idea. Wtf?
Has he got an enhanced DBS?

I have no words for how creepy and inappropriate this is

*36k for ringing places? I don't think so.

Waitwhat23 · 17/08/2022 10:03

Hoosemover · 17/08/2022 07:28

I am corrected it was advertised in the section for teachers/lecturers

not the community learning & development. This HR was fuck up which should have been challenged by women in working group.

One of the best the community learning and development training dept in the country is in Dundee.,There would be numerous women apply if it had advertised correctly.

It wasn't advertised as a CLD post and isn't, strictly speaking, a CLD post. I had mentioned on another thread that, when I first read the job description, I struck me that it would have been an ideal secondment opportunity for an experienced CLD worker who had worked with youth groups (in particular youth groups for young women) and adult education. There's a lot of posts (on every thread) that the post is 'just tampon counting' and 'compliance' but the job description read to me more as a engagement and informing post.

Terfydactyl · 17/08/2022 10:04

PollyRockets · 17/08/2022 05:55

@WandaWomblesaurus

Why don't you seem to understand no girls or women will be speaking to him about periods?

If the photo a pp posted is real (I have asked for a link) then actually yes, he will be talking to women and girls about periods, with period products.

Luna42 · 17/08/2022 10:05

@ragged

Politicians have no lived experience for most the things they talk about. So... I can't go with that ideal being required. I hope that this will be "a very good PR stint/opportunity to actively involve men in the conversation."

Many sectors are now recognising that some level of LE is actually very important, alongside professional/ specialist qualifications and a relevant track record, in order to create and implement effective policies and change.

And um, politicians being clueless may be the status quo but its not going that well for us is it?

Waitwhat23 · 17/08/2022 11:07

Waitwhat23 · 17/08/2022 10:03

It wasn't advertised as a CLD post and isn't, strictly speaking, a CLD post. I had mentioned on another thread that, when I first read the job description, I struck me that it would have been an ideal secondment opportunity for an experienced CLD worker who had worked with youth groups (in particular youth groups for young women) and adult education. There's a lot of posts (on every thread) that the post is 'just tampon counting' and 'compliance' but the job description read to me more as a engagement and informing post.

Nonetheless, hearing that it was advertised in the 'teachers and lecturers' section seems like a strange decision as the position is not a teacher or lecturer.

SpinCityBlues · 17/08/2022 11:49

Waitwhat23 · 17/08/2022 11:07

Nonetheless, hearing that it was advertised in the 'teachers and lecturers' section seems like a strange decision as the position is not a teacher or lecturer.

And why advertise it in this category unless it meant there would be direct pedadogy involved with real live girls? I take it an enhanced DBS will be required ...?

Or was it just to keep the ad away from more suitably qualified female CLD job hunters?

I'm so cynical about this, the more I look. I'm pleased those FoI requests have gone in.

SpinCityBlues · 17/08/2022 11:51

Weirdly, there's nothing in the job advert that says 'enhanced DBS required'. Just a driving licence and a vehicle.

Waitwhat23 · 17/08/2022 12:04

SpinCityBlues · 17/08/2022 11:51

Weirdly, there's nothing in the job advert that says 'enhanced DBS required'. Just a driving licence and a vehicle.

Job spec details that a PVG is required -

'Successful candidates will be required to complete a PVG Scheme Record under the Protection of Vulnerable Groups (PVG) (Scotland) Act 2007.'

SpinCityBlues · 17/08/2022 12:06

Waitwhat23 · 17/08/2022 12:04

Job spec details that a PVG is required -

'Successful candidates will be required to complete a PVG Scheme Record under the Protection of Vulnerable Groups (PVG) (Scotland) Act 2007.'

Thank you.

mumda · 17/08/2022 12:09

@Maireas have done.

Abraxan · 17/08/2022 12:17

It's utterly ridiculous. Just been talking to dd about it and she was a bit speechless and just said 'why?' - I couldn't answer.

It's not like he has medical qualifications to support the choice.
It's a bloke with no experience of having a period, trying to tell women how to to feel better about themselves during a period. 🤷‍♀️

It makes absolutely no sense whatsoever to have a man in that role!

Abraxan · 17/08/2022 12:20

cherish123 · 16/08/2022 22:03

Nope. Not ridiculous. Half the population have periods. Men should not be embarrassed about periods.

It's nothing to do with being embarrassed.
But it shouldn't be a man's place to advise women on how to feel empowered about their periods.

He has NO relevant experience about what having a period is like. I very much doubt he has ever had one!

DdraigGoch · 17/08/2022 12:23

Watapalava · 16/08/2022 23:19

Omg listen
to yourselves you sound embarrassing! It’s a policy role and your harping on like your on some feminist mission!

he’s making sure schools keep a supply of pads! Doesn’t take a ducking vagina to get the job

honestly some of you sound seriously thick

And you sound like you're 14.

Why is women talking about the rights of women and girls "harping on"? Why would a "feminist mission" be a bad thing?

Abraxan · 17/08/2022 12:28

And it's so much more than 'it's a policy job; sex of the person doesn't matter.'

It really really does matter. It's part of a much bigger picture, about the status of women.

This is the first ever period dignity leadership role.

Women and girls have periods, not men.
Women go through the menopause, not men.

Let a woman lead this role, especially for the first ever such role.

ellieboolou · 17/08/2022 13:14

It's completely inappropriate and doubt (hope) he will be moved on swiftly.

RemusLupinsBiggestGroupie · 17/08/2022 13:22

Watapalava · 16/08/2022 23:19

Omg listen
to yourselves you sound embarrassing! It’s a policy role and your harping on like your on some feminist mission!

he’s making sure schools keep a supply of pads! Doesn’t take a ducking vagina to get the job

honestly some of you sound seriously thick

@Watapalava

You don't even know how to spell 'you're' so fuck off with your, 'Some of you sound seriously thick' comment. I thank you.

SheeWeee · 17/08/2022 13:37

PollyRockets · 16/08/2022 23:21

No one has said his gender would help

But it also isn't a barrier

Or are we giving jobs to people based on sex now?

Sometimes we need to give jobs based on sex. It's not a bad thing. A job that is centred on an issue that is intriniscally female should 100% be given to a woman.

Cocolapew · 17/08/2022 13:40

I got the photo I posted from Facebook, the article in the The Courier UK page, they had used it in an article. They now have it as the heading photo.