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To ask why all of the Queen's adult grandchildren have chosen to have kids?

308 replies

itsbeen4minutes · 16/08/2022 18:47

Out of the Queen's 6 adult grandchildren, all of them have had children. AIBU to ask whether this is normal in terms of pretty every member of a family having chosen to have kids?

I have chosen to not have children so feel like if I was a member of the royal family I would be judged quite a bit on my choice to remain childfree.

OP posts:
saffy2 · 17/08/2022 18:53

I know 1 person who intentionally didn’t have children. A friend of my mums. Other than that every person that I know either has children or wanted children or is planning children.

ThinkingaboutLangClegosaurus · 17/08/2022 18:58

Flopisfatteningbingforchristmas · 16/08/2022 18:53

About 18% of women in the UK choose not to have children. I suspect that occurs in social and geographically pockets rather than evenly spread across the population.

Do we know that the 18% choose not to have children? Or is that just the percentage who don’t have children? Very different. I’d be interested to know what percentage actually chose to remain childless.

UniversalAunt · 17/08/2022 18:58

Of my group crashing menopause so the final numbers are in, a few have four children, most have two, some just one, some have adopted, some had IVF at own expense to make their family happen & some have no children by choice or not. A mixture of personal choice, fertility & affordability - just like everyone else.

Buttonjugs · 17/08/2022 19:02

I have two brothers, only one has a child. I had five sons all over 30 and only one has had children, two daughters. I would be quite surprised if any of my other sons have kids, it just doesn’t seem to be on the agenda.

TwinklingFairyLightz · 17/08/2022 19:03

PoolSquid · 16/08/2022 22:20

I'm surprised how many people don't know anyone child free. I know my family is perhaps fairly unusual, of my siblings and cousin's on my dad's side only one out of 7 has children but would have thought that most people had at least one childfree relation. My mum has 7 siblings and 3 are childfree.

Amongst my friends, most of whom I know from early twenties or younger (now mid 40s), I think about 50% are childfree.

I think childfree is more common amongst the tertiary educated middle classes. I'd assume that those that don't have any childfree acquaintances are either upper class or working class.

PerfectlyPreservedQuagaarWarrior · 17/08/2022 19:04

ThinkingaboutLangClegosaurus · 17/08/2022 18:58

Do we know that the 18% choose not to have children? Or is that just the percentage who don’t have children? Very different. I’d be interested to know what percentage actually chose to remain childless.

The 18% stat comes from the recent ONS report I think, and that's just the figure who don't have them full stop, whatever the reason. Presumably some of that is involuntary and some of it is chosen. I do agree with the pp though that it isn't spread evenly across the population and that there'll be things like geographical, financial and social factors.

Obviously as others have pointed out, the reasons why a person might want DC and be unable to have them are much less likely to apply to the royals.

gregaliara · 17/08/2022 19:10

I married a career girl " what you don't think I spent all that time studying at university to give up my career to have children do you" Her female friends started having children wow! then got to have a baby, goodness me, then early pregnancy loss again and again and again and yes again. 7, 8 ,9 pregnancies only 7 were documented. 2 were successful . Never saw her so sad my career girl, I was a mess. A friend was contacted for his advice and help, he was an advisor to a maternity hospital med director. Would you please look after my friends (they are chronic aborters). The doctor said Yes. Specialist med team looked after us for the first 16 weeks of pregnancy's then we were sent back to him. Healthy baby girl Med Director delivered baby, whisked her away for a quick check I followed him, he whispered to himself "Oh she's lovely". 2 years later a repeat performance. Another very cute looking girl. Went to see him, took a nice wine as a gift . Told him we decided we wont try to have another baby, he collapsed face first on his desk. "Thank god for that ! ! I was so worried there was going to be something wrong even though we had all the tests I WAS worried." You never know that you may change your mind and women have a very short window (very unfair) and it may be too short if it is put off. Think, oh so carefully. We have NEVER been sent a bill for anything he did for us, private hospital room, paediatric services, labour ward, pharmacy, multiple appointments. gratitude doesn't cover it. Just posting this the emotion is welling up in me, it never goes away, ( I guess the trauma, seeing what I saw and what happened to my career girl so many times) ran into him (our special Dr) in the street 5 years later, he threw his arms around me, the usual male hug and the emotion was immediate. He still remembered us and the names of our girls. He was a specialist in a large maternity hospital.

To ask why all of the Queen's adult grandchildren have chosen to have kids?
darcyandfinn · 17/08/2022 19:11

Why are you on mumsnet if you have chosen not to have children? Genuinely curious

gregaliara · 17/08/2022 19:14

dont forget the stats don't id infertility or those who try and fail to get a viable pregnancy then give up.

Gwenhwyfar · 17/08/2022 19:19

darcyandfinn · 17/08/2022 19:11

Why are you on mumsnet if you have chosen not to have children? Genuinely curious

There are threads about all sorts of things on here. For me, I just like being on a women's forum.

Sandra1984 · 17/08/2022 19:19

darcyandfinn · 17/08/2022 19:11

Why are you on mumsnet if you have chosen not to have children? Genuinely curious

I don’t have children either but can relate to all the other 99% of threads on this site that have nothing to do with children or being a mum, from relationship issues, to family, work issues to applying for a mortgage. Mums and non mums we’re all human with very similar issues.

Lovesacake · 17/08/2022 19:27

8 cousins in my family, 2 of them have stopped after 1 child - the other 6 have actively chosen not to have any

Antarcticant · 17/08/2022 19:27

darcyandfinn · 17/08/2022 19:11

Why are you on mumsnet if you have chosen not to have children? Genuinely curious

Wow! It took 258 posts to cross that one off my Childfree Mumsnetter bingo card! Must be a record! 😂

TwinklingFairyLightz · 17/08/2022 19:32

darcyandfinn · 17/08/2022 19:11

Why are you on mumsnet if you have chosen not to have children? Genuinely curious

I joined because I googled something health related before I had kids. I then stayed for the entertainment. I have a DD now but was on here for about 5 years pre-kid. I don't know if you've chance to look at any of the topics other than the parenting threads but there are plenty of topics that you don't need to be a parent to join in. Or do you think only mothers are entitled to an opinion on parking, style & beauty, property, the royals, the news, finances etc etc.

Your attitude is disparaging towards women who can't have / don't want children.

bettybobo2 · 17/08/2022 19:38

Because they want to keep the blood line

Morgysmum · 17/08/2022 19:51

My Grandma has, 7 grand kids and 13 great grand children.
I only have one son, most have 2, my sister has 3 and another cousin has 3.
I didn't want kids and ended up with one. I do a couple of ladies without kids, one chose not too, the other couldn't have kids. The lady who chose not too, I told her she had made the right decision. 😆 My partner wanted 3 kids, then decided. 1 was enough. I think he thought, having kids would be easy, 😆 I think with rguards the Royals, it's probably something they think, they have to do, keep the blood line going.

Nanalisa60 · 17/08/2022 20:10

I think one of the reason they all the Queens grandchildren, have had baby’s is that they don’t have to worry about money , or we’re they are going to live!! A house of lovely apartment seems to appear for them all.

GucciBear · 17/08/2022 20:15

hem.What a very odd question?! Presumably, they wanted them.

Phrenologistsfinger · 17/08/2022 20:23

darcyandfinn · 17/08/2022 19:11

Why are you on mumsnet if you have chosen not to have children? Genuinely curious

I haven’t “chosen” for a start! Ten pregnancies, no baby.

I came here for ttc & the conception board, sadly graduated to the miscarriage board then the infertility board and stayed for the diverse range of women-centred chat. I’m not alone either!

VestaTilley · 17/08/2022 20:33

What an utterly mad question.

The majority of people in happy relationships still choose to have children - it’s still what most people want. As members of the RF have more money than most of us, I’d expect them to be especially likely to do it!

But no, I don’t think people would care if any of them hadn’t had kids - unless they were Kate and William.

darcyandfinn · 17/08/2022 20:36

Not really, it’s called mums net. I assumed it was a forum for mums, which is why I said I was genuinely curious. I wouldn’t look on a website called dogsnet

darcyandfinn · 17/08/2022 20:39

Also, I totally support any womens choice to not have / have children. Annoys the hell out of me when people ask women when they are going to have children or another child as they don’t know their circumstances

eastegg · 17/08/2022 20:51

wordler · 16/08/2022 19:04

Also at least the first 1-2 in the line to the Crown will have grown up with an expectation that it's required as part of the deal - providing the next heirs.

I was surprised that Zara had three after the trauma of the miscarriages she went through but I think Mike really wanted a boy - I wonder if they did some kind of sex selection for the third one.

You’re entitled to think and wonder of course, but personally I find your gossipy tone about such a sensitive matter distasteful.

I remember Zara announcing the loss of her baby in the second trimester very well. I felt a great sympathy with her because I had lost a baby at the same gestation just a few months earlier and she was the first person in the public eye I had known to talk about it at all. I can’t speak for her of course, but for myself going on to have another (my third as well) saved me from I don’t know what. I don’t know why anyone would find it at all surprising that someone who has experienced baby loss would go on to have another child.

I also remember, during my subsequent pregnancy after the loss, wanting to slap anyone who suggested I might give a toss about the sex of my baby. As if that mattered! So unless you’ve actually got something to go on here, it’s distasteful tittle tattle.

eastegg · 17/08/2022 20:55

Phrenologistsfinger · 17/08/2022 20:23

I haven’t “chosen” for a start! Ten pregnancies, no baby.

I came here for ttc & the conception board, sadly graduated to the miscarriage board then the infertility board and stayed for the diverse range of women-centred chat. I’m not alone either!

Yeah, get off those miscarriage boards if you haven’t got kids!!

Well said Phren. Sorry for your losses.

darcyandfinn · 17/08/2022 21:00

The OP said she had chosen not to have children. I asked her the question, because she had chosen not to have children but chose to be on mumsnet. So sorry for your loss, but that isn’t what I asked