Man stalking woman, excused by saying he must be autistic..

[AutismIsStigmatised]

I came across this video on TikTok today, I'll post the link below but in summary an unknown man posed as an amazon delivery person to get access to a block of flats this woman lives in. He was behaving strangely and wanted to give her a 'gift' which was some sort of cup / candle holder. She confronted him and he left, then came back up again, left again then came back up a third time with his hood up as though he was about to do something sinister. Very bloody creepy.

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The comments are littered with people saying that he's 'clearly autistic'

Take a look and tell me what you think but as the parent of an autistic boy (and wife of an autistic adult) it really upsets me when people assume scary/criminal behaviour is due to autism. I know many people with autism and not one has ever behaved like that..

I couldn't make it out either. She did another video focusing on his arm but I can't quite tell. Either way, his whole body language looked off. I'm glad she found someone outside who could help her.

Same. Scary as hell. Even more scary is people excusing the behaviour

That's the other disturbing thing. People actually excusing it because he may have learning difficulties and just wanted to give her a present. This behaviour is never acceptable.

So women have to put up with creepy behaviour then because they’re less important than predatory men who may or may not have a Disability?

So women have to put up with creepy behaviour then because they’re less important than predatory men who may or may not have a Disability?

So you think disabled people should be dismissed as 'creepy' for displaying behaviour directly related to their disability? I mean, I certainly never said women should put up with anything so I guess we are just making silly assumptions ?

So what, autistic people can't hurt others?
So what if he's autistic?

If that behaviour is creepy, then yes, it can be labelled as such

Quite. I bought DD a revision book for OMAM and the cartoon summary was incredibly misogynistic.

Having a disability doesn't eradicate the potential for harm.

Focus on the potential and real victims. If you're being harassed by a neurotypical person you're being harassed.

If you're being harassed by a person with some kind of disability or neurodiversity, you're being harassed.

Someone in the comments claimed on this occasion he was carrying a knife but it’s really hard to tell

If that behaviour is creepy, then yes, it can be labelled as such

But as I said upthread, it's not always 'creepy.' Sometimes, autistic people think/speak/act differently to us because of their disability. Then people who don't understand that call them 'creepy.' Is that OK to do?

Yes.

It's possible.

My DS is on spectrum, I'm very conscious of the fact he can become obsessive with certain things and certain people to the point of no distraction.

I'll be honest it possibly could be a random person in the future.

I'm working on it, teaching him the importance of listening and that no means no, no exception.

I had a stalker for years, we'd a brief relationship, he was diagnosed with asperger's and wouldn't let it go.

OK, so that's clearly ableist. :)

I'm not put off by your buzzwords or dismissiveness.

If someone is being creepy and they have autism, they're being creepy and have autism. If they don't leave me alone I will call them creepy, maybe call the police.

And you can call me ableist.

Yes. Because that behaviour is creepy to the person subjected to it.

So a woman is supposed to terrified and “be nice” to the man because he potentially has a disability?

No. It was creepy behaviour. It was stalker behaviour. It was threatening behaviour. It was potentially dangerous behaviour and I hope the police investigate

It happened to me actually. I was on a train that was empty aside from me and two men. One man clearly had some type of mental disability. The other was just some bloke.

The man with the disability came over and stood over me and just stood there staring at me. I was very scared.

The other man came over and told him in no uncertain terms to fuck off. Eventually he did fuck off, thankfully.

He was being creepy. He could have hurt me.

I also got flashed by someone I also think had a mental disability. He was being creepy, criminal, and should be arrested.

I also got attacked by someone I cared for. He grabbed my hair and would not let go. He was being creepy.

All those men with mental disabilities were being creepy and in every situation I would have prioritised myself over them.

That’s a sadist. It has its own classification: sadistic personality disorder. A psychopath on the other hand will know he’s hurting and scaring people, but he simply won’t care.

A psychopath can be sadistic, but that’s only true in a minority of cases where sadistic personality disorder is also present.

What man? A man whose mannerisms and traits are simply different to those of most neurotypical men? Thank fuck there are people who don't think 'hmm, that guy talks funny, what a weirdo.'

Once again, for anyone who doesn't read, this is not a reference to the guy in the tiktok video.

Life will I am afraid soon teach you that it's not nearly as simple as that. Having witnessed a CCTV camera interaction between DS2 and two girls at our own front door where they were clearly trying to get him to take photos to use against him (we had the cameras installed because of constant harassment in the neighborhood of the entire family after he had a mainstream school trial locally and they worked out how naive he is), I can tell you certain people are very keen that autistic people are got into trouble because they have the social skills and cunning to do that.
Yes, teach socially appropriate behaviour. But don't ever think that means you can relax 😔

All those men with mental disabilities were being creepy and in every situation I would have prioritised myself over them.

As you should. Sorry you've experienced those things.

Well, I know someone who is mildly autistic and sexually abused his own teenage children and it’s been excused by the family because ‘he’s autistic and doesn’t understand normal social rules’. 🙄This is someone who otherwise manages just fine, has normal adult relationships, a big City job where he earns about £300k a year, married, mortgage, quite successful all around. He clearly knows that sexually abusing your own 15 year old isn’t okay. 🙄

That's interesting, thank you.

You've changed it up there, a strawman if you will. No one said they thought people were weirdos for being different. You're attempting to characterise feeling unsafe with being generally mean.

It won't work.