Man stalking woman, excused by saying he must be autistic..

[AutismIsStigmatised]

I came across this video on TikTok today, I'll post the link below but in summary an unknown man posed as an amazon delivery person to get access to a block of flats this woman lives in. He was behaving strangely and wanted to give her a 'gift' which was some sort of cup / candle holder. She confronted him and he left, then came back up again, left again then came back up a third time with his hood up as though he was about to do something sinister. Very bloody creepy.

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The comments are littered with people saying that he's 'clearly autistic'

Take a look and tell me what you think but as the parent of an autistic boy (and wife of an autistic adult) it really upsets me when people assume scary/criminal behaviour is due to autism. I know many people with autism and not one has ever behaved like that..

I think I give up @HailAdrian as you're speaking from a place of presumption that everyone else is unkind with no experience of dealing with loved ones with disabilities.

I'm sorry that you have been through and continue to go through so much when it comes to the impact of disabilities on a loved ones life and by extension your own. It is an exhausting and isolating experience.

Many of us do understand, have been carers, have disabilities and not agreeing with you doesn't make us cruel or ableist or lacking in empathy. Being accused of being those things by you on threads like this is not fair.

Oh my apologies I didn’t realise YOU were the last word on the carer statistics. Better email carer.org and say “I know that you put lots of skill, effort and accuracy into accumulating that data, it there’s a woman on MN who says your wrong because in HER experience lots of men do the job’

You thought you had to understand your rights before being arrested?

So someone can murder a person and get away with it if they don’t understand their rights? That’s how you thought it worked?

No and you are exactly the kind of person I meant when I said some people think of severely disabled people as subhuman.

Oh my apologies I didn’t realise YOU were the last word on the carer statistics. Better email carer.org and say “I know that you put lots of skill, effort and accuracy into accumulating that data, it there’s a woman on MN who says your wrong because in HER experience lots of men do the job’

😂😂😂😂 did you not know they are gospel on all statistics and facts?!? 😱

Messy as hell. Hope dhe ends up calling the police though

OK well the poster I was referring to has gone and proved my point beautifully anyway. :)

Ooh sorry I didn't realise personal experience wasn't to be shared here!

@HailAdrian

You're hardly worth responding to as you are desperate for a stranger on the internet to believe their child will be arrested eventually but even you must know that the circumstances of a profoundly autistic individual being arrested would be entirely different to most arrests

Nobody said your child would definitely be arrested eventually.

Posters who said a profoundly autistic person could be arrested (which is 100% true) said that the circumstances would be different to most arrests!

So you're simply agreeing with people... when they were in fact responding to your absolute statement that a profoundly autistic person wouldn't be arrested as they wouldn't understand their rights.

Which was absolutely incorrect. Misinformation matters. Language matters.

I personally wouldn’t give a shit either if someone tried to strangle me and they turned out to be autistic.

It doesn’t excuse anything!! Fine, they have a disability, but they either shouldn’t have been out unsupervised, or the person who was supervising, should be reprimanded.

The only thing I would worry about, was if it happened again.

I’m saying it’s not relevant, not that I don’t agree with it

I think many people who have grown up in circumstances whereby they date drug dealers probably arent the kind that would even think for a minute to trust police.

OK w

Because I don’t think they should be immune from consequences if they assault someone?

OK then

Well i personally don't understand the mindset of someone who doesn't give a shit if a severely disabled person is extremely distressed and has no understanding of what is happening to them. I would personally find that very upsetting.

Maybe they have things to do on a sunny Saturday? Maybe it’s not an indication that they think they’re wrong

You said the majority of carers were men.

I posted a link proving you wrong.

What has your experience got to do with it?!

But I didn't ? I said in my experience, the majority have been. That's a fact.

Maybe they just given up

If someone strangled me, as a non-amazing person, I would think about me, and other potential victims and ‘will it happen again’. If someone said they had autism - well I don’t give a shit, it doesn’t change what happened and it doesn’t lessen the trauma.

Is it SO MUCH to ask to focus on victims?

They may well be deprived of their liberties though under Dols ,I'm also the parent of a severely autistic child who has a very limited understanding of the world around him for his sake and for the safety of others if his behaviour was so challenging that he was hurting other people ,something would have to be put in place to manage that behaviour

I don’t think ‘fact’ means what you think it means.

Your experience doesn’t count for shit. V arrogant to think it does.

The FACT is most carers are female.

Well this whole thing literally started because I said I felt for the victim AND the autistic guy who had misread the situation. So, yeah, i would feel awful for the victim AND the hypothetical severely autistic man or woman who found themselves in deep distress and not knowing why.

Everyone's experiences count. :)

Well I like to focus on victims. Focussing on perpetrators creates a very dangerous kind of justice system