To say this to people who complain about vaping?

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You do realise that if we weren't vaping, we'd be smoking cigarettes, right?

In light of this, why should vapes be banned?

#teamvape

Again, why would anyone care what you think?!

puts her hand up.

Vape is completely harmless to others, and almost entirely harmless to the vaper.

I only smoke at home or in the car.

If the retailers are
Doing their jobs correctly, no child should be vaping unless adults are buying them for them there are for over 18s

John’s Hopkins university is not reliable?

That’s batshit, I’ll leave you to it, suspecting that you’re yet another who thinks it’s steam…

@nottoday300 when I was a young teenager my friends and I knew all the corner shops that would sell cigarettes to underage kids. I'd be very, very surprised if the kids now don't know where they can get a vape no questions asked

This

DH use to smoke, he now vapes. When he vaped in the house Id wake up with a sore throat and dd would wake up feeling sick. He now vapes outside.

Vaping is an ok way for long term smokers to try to quit.

But that's clearly not who they're being aimed at anymore.

The vape companies are 100% marketing to teenagers. The vapes actually taste like sweets and with the various colours and designs have become a fashion accessory.

My ex works for the council, spends a lot of time around kids playparks opening/locking them up etc and he says the amount of disposable vapes being thrown down everywhere now is unbelievable.

It’s great for former smokers because compared to cigarettes it’s much less damaging to their health.

The huge uptake by young teenagers, most of whom would never have become regular cigarette smokers but are now addicted to nicotine, is awful. Tobacco companies now own many of the vape companies. They needed a new market and they’ve heavily targeted under 18s. Vapes haven’t been around long enough for us to know what impact they may have on adults whose used them heavily as teenagers 30+ years down the line.

Vaping is also yack. And it's not cool.
Research is ongoing about the effects of vaping, but inhaling chemicals isn't good for you full stop.
You can do whatever you want, but far away from me please.

But that's saying quite clearly that it was related to specific illegal cannabis containing mixtures in refillable vapes and not the ones available in the UK/EU. Kind of like the difference between drinking counterfeit schnapps that likely contains antifreeze and methanol rather than a G&T. And legal alcohol still causes far more damage to others than a Cherry Elfbar.

Can't stand vaping. Detest smoking. Vaping just smells like candy floss and bubblegum... I mean really?! Makes me chuckle abit that grown adults are paying £10 a pack to smoke stuff that smells like a push pop I had in the 80s....

Both should be banned. I hope they disappear before my children are old enough to even ponder going down that route.

I don't say this in real life but on this thread I'll say that I prefer old fashioned smokers to vapers.

Never ever known a single vaper use it to reduce their addiction bit by bit, not they're just hooked on vaping forever and it's not their fault because vaping seems to facilitate the addiction more efficiently than smoking.

As for ''who lets their 11 year old vape?''. These 11 year olds aren't doing it at home. It's tragic. It's a severe addiction. When the parents find out they will be pushing water uphill trying to persuade an addicted child to stop.

I'm baffled by both tbh. Vaping looks silly and smells gross but it's obviously slightly better than smoking for someone who is already an addict so I just keep away as i hate the smell. I don't complain.

But the health effects of smoking were well known and publicised when I was a small child so I've never really understood why people (in the last few decades) started smoking in the first place. It doesn't really have the 'appeal' of a high or whatever that other drugs do does it?

I was boringly sensible child and teen though so maybe I am missing the point!

I was a full time smoker for over 15 years.
I quit cigarettes and started vaping 5 years ago and am now on the lowest strength nicotine.
I did get down to zero nicotine and gave it up completely while pregnant but since having baby and a lot of life pressure started again.
im confident I can get down to zero again and eventually give up altogether.
it has been fantastic for me.

Oh come on, no one should be vaping indoors (or outdoors) in a full stadium.

Google it. Plenty of info on it.

I used to chain smoke; I smoked through severe bronchitis and chest infection, I smoked when I had a sore throat. To my surprise I was able to quit using the Alan Carr Easiway method. I realise it doesn't work for everyone, but I was able to just quit with no patches, gum or vaping. It took about 6 weeks for the cravings to go away.

Why not try it first before you take up vaping?

To clarify - I know there is an appeal once you're already addicted. I just never understood the appeal of starting in the first place. I 'see' the appeal of vapes and other drugs to a curious teen (ne- but I never 'got' cigarettes.

I don't mind people vaping but not near me due to asthma. Makes me choke up.

'exposure to secondhand vape aerosol can trigger symptoms and asthma attacks, and worsen the condition'

I don't care whether you smoke or vape but don't do either near me.

Some people seem to think that the world owes them special applause because they have given up smoking. 🙄

I live opposite a secondary school and during term time I was having old vapes (those colourful ones that look a bit like highlighters) thrown into my garden on a daily basis. I wonder if people would be so blasé about them if they realised how exciting kids find them and are being sold them underage. At the very least they should be marketed the same as cigarettes: boring looking.

What @BigDayToday said. You'll never hear me say a thing in public about either smoking or vaping. I get all the arguments, alcohol is worse, vaping hardly harms anyone etc etc. And I get that it is hard to give up.

I just don't see why anyone is pig thick enough ever to start doing either ridiculous, smelly and expensive habit for the benefit of tobacco billionaires. I think you all look terrible and smell worse. I think a lot of parents will find the money for fags or vapes but not for better food or opportunities for their kids.

I repeat, I'll never say a single word about any of this in public. I work on respiratory, stroke and cancer wards. Nuff said.

Would you tell an alcoholic to just not drink as it's not healthy? Or a drug addict?

Er... yes. AA and other addiction services working with people addicted to booze and drugs tell them to stop doing booze and drugs and support them to do so. Most people give up smoking by going cold turkey: I did, 18 years ago. But you're coming from an addict's perspective and the idea of living without nicotine or booze or whatever will seem unthinkable to you because you're comfortable in your addiction.