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To say this to people who complain about vaping?

305 replies

GeriSignfeld · 13/08/2022 10:50

You do realise that if we weren't vaping, we'd be smoking cigarettes, right?

In light of this, why should vapes be banned?

#teamvape

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PeloAddict · 13/08/2022 11:30

@averageavocado popcorn lung is bullshit

https://www.cancerresearchuk.org/about-cancer/causes-of-cancer/does-vaping-cause-popcorn-lung

Caused by diacetyl which was banned from e cigs in 2016. Cigarettes contain WAY more diacetyl so if you're worried about popcorn lung you are better to vape than smoke

jetadore · 13/08/2022 11:31

Also tobacco companies see vaping as a new market to cover lost revenue from falling cigarette sales and are aggressively marketing it at young people. Far from being a less harmful alternative for smokers there are many, mainly younger, users who have never smoked cigarettes before but have taken up vaping. The flavours and ability to “accessorise” the device actually make it an easier sell than cigarettes to young people.

MrsLargeEmbodied · 13/08/2022 11:32

i gave up smoking via vaping.
this is good as i no longer smoke

Knockknockouija · 13/08/2022 11:32

I wonder if people rea.ise how utterly ridiculous they look when they vape.
Puff the magic dragon is seething with envy

Knockknockouija · 13/08/2022 11:33

Knockknockouija · 13/08/2022 11:32

I wonder if people rea.ise how utterly ridiculous they look when they vape.
Puff the magic dragon is seething with envy

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Pluvia · 13/08/2022 11:33

GeriSignfeld · 13/08/2022 10:50

You do realise that if we weren't vaping, we'd be smoking cigarettes, right?

In light of this, why should vapes be banned?

#teamvape

Are you the person who insisted on vaping almost constantly on a journey from Bristol to Manchester in a mini-bus, who then complained and got shouty when I and another person who'd asked you politely to stop it, threw up?

Fml1980 · 13/08/2022 11:34

Every morning when taking my children to school I see lots of secondary school children vaping.
It does worry me as smoking seems uncool now (which obviously is a good thing).
But vaping is still not 100% safe and where are these children getting vapes from and of course are they legit.

SavingsThreads · 13/08/2022 11:35

I don't understand who is letting their 11yo vape?!?

tiger2691 · 13/08/2022 11:36

When you smoke, you combust tobacco, when you vape, you heat liquid. Smoking contains hideous amounts of tar and carbon monoxide, vaping contains neither. Disposable vapes should be banned, they are an environmental disaster. Much better and far cheaper to use a pod system, AIO (all in one), where the pod/tank can be refilled, the coils replaced and the Mod (battery) recharged.

I6344 · 13/08/2022 11:36

Shame some people on here don't understand addiction 🙄

Leafy3 · 13/08/2022 11:37

You're entitled to vape but I want to passively vape as much as I want to passively smoke.

What annoys me is when people vape freely around others without any consideration of how the vapour might be affecting them.

You do you, but keep it away from me.

PeloAddict · 13/08/2022 11:37

SavingsThreads · 13/08/2022 11:35

I don't understand who is letting their 11yo vape?!?

I smoked from age 12
I would have been better to vape but they weren't about then. Of course I wasn't "allowed" but since when do children/teenagers tell their parents everything? Grin

NigelDidIt · 13/08/2022 11:39

My issue with vaping is that people seem to do it inside - they wouldn't smoke inside!

I was coming down the escalator in Westgate in Oxford last week and the bloke in front of me started vaping. It was link being in a cloud of super sweet air freshener

Bunnyfuller · 13/08/2022 11:39

If people vape as a means of stopping using nicotine altogether, great. (I did and not looked back for 10 years). But it’s very sad seeing kids taking it up, and I agree Vapers assume they can do it anywhere anytime. That’s not ok.

swanfake · 13/08/2022 11:42

I'd rather get mud on my clothes than dog shit, I'd still rather not have either. Likewise I'd rather breathe in someone else's vaping than smoking, but I'd prefer neither.

Surely if you're use to smoking rules, then just apply the same rules to vaping? If you still don't like those rules, then give up both?

ImWell · 13/08/2022 11:43

But seriously, “steam”? What on earth were people taught in school.

I6344 · 13/08/2022 11:44

When I said my previous comment about people not understanding addiction I didn't explain what I meant. I smoke and I'm trying to quit and using a vape is helping me. I've smoked for 16 years and it's not easy. So my comment was to those saying "just don't smoke or vape it's unhealthy". Omg I didn't know it was bad for you??? Who knew?? 😏It's not that bloody easy to quit. It's an addiction. Would you tell an alcoholic to just not drink as it's not healthy? Or a drug addict? Get off your high horse ffs. But I agree with the comments about smoking/vaping in public when there are people around. I like to think I'm a considerate smoker/vaper. I walk away from everyone as I know it's unhealthy.

Sonnex · 13/08/2022 11:45

You could do neither really antisocial and bad for your health thing?

Do you really find it fine that people walking behind you have to breathe in great clouds of particles that have recently been in your lungs?

Shedpudding · 13/08/2022 11:45

Actually that’s not the case - research has shown that a lot of people who vape never smoked to begin with.

either way couldn’t give a shit whether you’re smoking or vaping, still don’t want it breathed in my face.

scoobycute · 13/08/2022 11:48

@Jalisco "but prohibition has worked precisely nowhere."

Come on now banning a substance lessens the availability/amount it's taken significantly..sure look at Amsterdam, marijuana and prostitution everywhere you turn your head. It's promoted!

Legalising It may reduce crime, but it just normalises things that maybe shouldn't be so "normal" or accepted.

Sonnex · 13/08/2022 11:49

Yes I think there's now a whole new generation of vapers who have never and will never smoke. I find it really sad as for awhile it looked like smoking would die out and most 19 / twentsomethings I know have never smoked or vaped. But now the streets are full of 12/13/14/15y old vapers round here with those cheap disposable ones.

MrsLargeEmbodied · 13/08/2022 11:50

yes you should not vape inside as you should not smoke inside
on the beach an awful sickly smell of someone vaping reached me - which is not half as bad as cigarette smoke.
i vape nicotine so no sickly smell
agree that the disposable ones should be banned

WeSent500Ravens · 13/08/2022 11:53

Yeah that's not remotely reliable.

And yes I know how to use Google thank you. If you make a claim then it's on you to provide the evidence. Which you haven't.

WeSent500Ravens · 13/08/2022 11:53

Sonnex · 13/08/2022 11:45

You could do neither really antisocial and bad for your health thing?

Do you really find it fine that people walking behind you have to breathe in great clouds of particles that have recently been in your lungs?

You must find traffic a real struggle.

Bonjovispjs · 13/08/2022 11:54

I'd rather be around someone vaping than smoking, in fact I try to guess what flavour it is😁Not sure where all these considerate smokers who move away from non smokers are though? I've never come across any, it's always me who has to move away.