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Porn culture has led to women suffering injuries during sex

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Doyoumind · 12/08/2022 10:01

Apart from all the violence etc porn portrays as normal, anal sex is definitely treated as an everyday thing that women enjoy. I don't personally. I know some women claim they do but I've certainly known men who pressure for it and I'm guessing it's only got worse in the years since I was dating.

This article suggests women are unknowingly entering into something that can cause serious injuries.

www.theguardian.com/society/2022/aug/11/rise-in-popularity-of-anal-sex-has-led-to-health-problems-for-women

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liloandstench · 12/08/2022 13:29

Crikeyalmighty · 12/08/2022 13:17

I don't have a problem if others genuinely enjoy it and not just to keep partners happy - I just didn't

This is where I stand. There is a lot of thrush in the pressure, porn, men taking advantage and committing assault. But from someone who's done it, I've had both good and bad experiences. If you've never done it, you can't possibly know enough, but that's absolutely your choice to refuse.

Calling women brainwashed is plain stupid and offensive, to those who have. Sucking a penis means you're equally brainwashed, it gives you zero sexual pleasure and is commonly in porn.

picklemewalnuts · 12/08/2022 13:31

I think perhaps Miffee was thinking about coordination and organisation. I can't speak for her. I know that's where my mind wanders... it's a bit like taking something perfectly good, and turning it into something very elaborate. Why bother?

No need to explain. I'm just musing to myself. I won't be organising anything elaborate anytime soon!

excitingusername · 12/08/2022 13:31

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justasking111 · 12/08/2022 13:33

11GrumpsaGrumping · 12/08/2022 13:07

@justasking111 those comments are so unhelpful and actually set the whole issue back. As noted on this thread, anal sex can be pleasurable for both men and women. Many women enjoy it and want to include it in their sex lives, too. It's about safety and communication and education and risk reduction.

www.nhs.uk/conditions/bowel-incontinence/

Yankey812 · 12/08/2022 13:38

A lot of people especially young women don't have much of a voice once something is 'mainstream' and normalized it is more difficult for them to say no. One thing is for sure it is not a natural thing to do nature didn't intend for it and most young people think it is harmless, there needs to be more of this in sex education
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6595871/Online-porn-horror-Girl-16-forced-colostomy-bag-attempting-group-anal-sex.html

ChickenChop · 12/08/2022 13:39

@Miffee has just about finished me off here GrinGrin Priceless and says it better than I ever could

Look, just think of all the fun you'll have on the fecal incontinence wards in a few decades and crack the fuck on!

Of course it doesn't affect me one bit, what you choose to do with your bottom. But I renin steadfast in my belief that women only enjoy it because men have taught them to

Thatswhyimacat · 12/08/2022 13:40

I hate the attitude, prominently displayed on this thread, that if a woman actually likes anything that you don't, or anything that a man likes, she's a pick me cool girl who's brainwashed by the patriarchy and desperate to be special.

Stop patronising and putting women down, and take your superiority complex back to your echo chamber.

(Happy to describe in graphic detail exactly what it is I like about anal but I thought I'd leave it)

Stoma · 12/08/2022 13:41

ChickenChop · 12/08/2022 13:39

@Miffee has just about finished me off here GrinGrin Priceless and says it better than I ever could

Look, just think of all the fun you'll have on the fecal incontinence wards in a few decades and crack the fuck on!

Of course it doesn't affect me one bit, what you choose to do with your bottom. But I renin steadfast in my belief that women only enjoy it because men have taught them to

Idk I find it weird how you can claim to care about women and simultaneously mock them. If you truly believe women are pressured into it, surely you should be more compassionate? It's good to spread awareness of risks but you don't come across as genuine but doing that.

dottiedodah · 12/08/2022 13:41

I dont understand why straight men like this)Ok had a sheltered life I guess!) Surely this is a gay practice? Anyway good that it has been picked up on by Doctors now . Lets hope no young girls are coerced into this unwholesome practice

ChickenChop · 12/08/2022 13:45

I'm don't think I did claim to care about women did I? However that goes without saying.

I really care. I really care that my daughter is fully aware that anal sex and choking may well be normalised now but it isn't something she should be pressurised into doing.

Like I said, if you say you like it, carry on. My opinion is that women don't like it, they just think they do (and that's my OPINION which differs to yours)

greywinds · 12/08/2022 13:51

What age did you start talking to your daughters/sons about this? I don't think not educating girls or boys is ever the answer even if the conversations are difficult.

People often enjoy many sexual things that are transgressive, a lot of sexual enjoyment starts in the mind rather than strictly with the act only.

TomAllenWife · 12/08/2022 13:51

@Mojoj could you be any more patronising???

MsFannySqueers · 12/08/2022 13:55

Is it coincidence that the Anusol advertisement appeared next to this thread?

mamabear715 · 12/08/2022 13:55

eeeww.. I've had enough problems after childbirth!!

DrShepsBall · 12/08/2022 13:55

Dalaidramailama · 12/08/2022 10:09

I’m 34, never engaged in it. I was warned by my mother of the health consequences. Will warn my own daughter too.

Same, but I'm 42. I'll also educate my dc.

WhileMyGuitarGentlyWeeps · 12/08/2022 13:59

ChickenChop · 12/08/2022 13:09

You'll never convince me that women like anal sex, no matter how many times some posters on here say they love it.

It's driven by men and porn and it's become mainstream and normalised and women 'think' they like it

And yes, I know full well I'll be pounced on but I don't care!

This. ^ I tried it once (with my DH) some 20 years ago. He didn't coerce me or anything, we both collectively decided to try it. I had to have 4 shots of whiskey, and get quite tipsy, to get enough confidence to do it!!!

I fucking HATED it. As a pp said, it felt like having a shit backwards. Even though I consented and we used lube, I still hurt and ached afterwards, and it felt so weird and horrible. It was about 5 days before I could shit! (Sorry, TMI!)

DH kept saying he was so sorry, as I said it had hurt, but it wasn't his fault. I said I never wanted to do it again, and he was fine with that. He was not bothered.

As @ChickenChop and some other posters have said, I find it very hard to believe that anyone enjoys it, and I think they have been brainwashed. In addition, even if women do consent, and they are not instantly hurt, the long term affects can be dire. They can suffer from anal incontinence, and a slack anus (anal sphincter muscle damage.) Anal sex is a common cause of faecal incontinence.

tellmewhentheLangshiplandscoz · 12/08/2022 14:01

excitingusername · 12/08/2022 13:06

I think the modern 'consent' thing is the biggest bullshit I have ever heard. I 'consented' to many things when I was an idiotic 16 year old - if the culture around you is sexually toxic and too politically stifled to tell the truth about dangerous sexual behaviour it means that many people are going to suffer despite their so-called 'consent'. Being truly 'informed' the dangers of anal sex, would be politically controversial and people would not like it cos prejudice. So sexual liberation means rapey teen culture.

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Midlifemusings · 12/08/2022 14:01

The actual article is a very brief commentary that uses one study that imaged anuses to support their findings. I am not syaing it isn't true but the article isn't all that convincing or well supported

www.bmj.com/content/378/bmj.o1975

SammyScrounge · 12/08/2022 14:02

11GrumpsaGrumping · 12/08/2022 11:30

I actually do like anal- I really enjoy it in fact.

Women's anuses are no different than men's- what nonsense!

However, safe anal takes knowledge, consent, and practice. You need lots of lube, you need to start small to relax the muscles, and you need to ensure that you're empty, so to speak. Unsafe anal can cause serious injury - as, might I add, can unsafe and non-consensual vaginal sex.

The issue isn't with anal, it's with the unsafe depiction of it in porn, the lack of education on how to do it safely, and the lack of discussion around pleasure, pain, and consent.

THAT is what we need to teach young women!

The last thing we need is for women who do enjoy anal to feel ashamed of it.

It's not just for gay men, as a PP intimated!

THAT is the last thing we should teach young women. They need to learn that they have a right to enjoy sex and that their pleasure centres (very rich pleasure centres)are not located in their anus, that orgasms start in another place and that anal sex is gross anyway.

Midlifemusings · 12/08/2022 14:03

Midlifemusings · 12/08/2022 14:01

The actual article is a very brief commentary that uses one study that imaged anuses to support their findings. I am not syaing it isn't true but the article isn't all that convincing or well supported

www.bmj.com/content/378/bmj.o1975

I should add that more health education is always a good thing and teaching both gay men and young men about the safest and healthiest ways to engage in anal sex if they choose to do so is important.

The article really just doesn't have evidence to support that it is any different for women than men and many gay men engage in anal sex.

gnilliwdog · 12/08/2022 14:05

Some people enjoy a bit of pain and fear, but really it belongs in s and m. Blame 50 shades. It's different for men who have the prostate and can get some pleasure from it. Women who say it's fun must have some unique wiring going on with pain pleasure sensors. Don't like men thinking pressuring women into this is ok. It goes with all the choking, spitting, slapping misogyny of porn. Utterly depressing for women.

Buythebag40 · 12/08/2022 14:05

Miffee · 12/08/2022 13:20

Shock horror, I often even enjoy anal toys when masturbating- no men around then to impress! Just me!

I am horrified, not about you sticking things up your own arse generally. More that you go to so much effort to masturbate, honestly who could be arsed (couldnt resist) with that? Do you struggle?

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ProfessorFusspot · 12/08/2022 14:05

Women's anuses are no different than men's- what nonsense!

It's not only the anus involved, though. Receiving anal is physically pleasurable almost immediately for most men because it indirectly stimulates the prostate. Sure, some women certainly can experience pleasure from the same act but it's not the exact same set of physical sensations from the same sources. I think part of the issue - not with porn but with regular old non-rapey men pushing for anal sex from women - is that a lot of men genuinely don't know much about female anatomy and women's sexual response as distinct from male, and are expecting any and all women to feel pleasure almost immediately and without much preparation or foreplay. Which, I suppose, is confusing for him and disappointing for her if it doesn't happen.

TSIFT · 12/08/2022 14:08

Don't sleep with so many men.

Midlifemusings · 12/08/2022 14:08

ProfessorFusspot · 12/08/2022 14:05

Women's anuses are no different than men's- what nonsense!

It's not only the anus involved, though. Receiving anal is physically pleasurable almost immediately for most men because it indirectly stimulates the prostate. Sure, some women certainly can experience pleasure from the same act but it's not the exact same set of physical sensations from the same sources. I think part of the issue - not with porn but with regular old non-rapey men pushing for anal sex from women - is that a lot of men genuinely don't know much about female anatomy and women's sexual response as distinct from male, and are expecting any and all women to feel pleasure almost immediately and without much preparation or foreplay. Which, I suppose, is confusing for him and disappointing for her if it doesn't happen.

Many men find anal sex to be quite uncomfortable or painful and not pleasurable at all. Some gay men choose to never receive as they do not find it pleasurable at all. A penis near a prostate is not an automatic pleasure source. Some men enjoy it as do some women.

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