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Porn culture has led to women suffering injuries during sex

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Doyoumind · 12/08/2022 10:01

Apart from all the violence etc porn portrays as normal, anal sex is definitely treated as an everyday thing that women enjoy. I don't personally. I know some women claim they do but I've certainly known men who pressure for it and I'm guessing it's only got worse in the years since I was dating.

This article suggests women are unknowingly entering into something that can cause serious injuries.

www.theguardian.com/society/2022/aug/11/rise-in-popularity-of-anal-sex-has-led-to-health-problems-for-women

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excitingusername · 13/08/2022 00:12

StanleyBostitch · 13/08/2022 00:06

That's my comment. Where have I frothed?

Don't worry, sunglasses gets quite passionate in defence of this - a worthy cause for any woman. Is probably a teacher or a guide leader. Her great fear is that anal is shamed away. Obviously that dark and dystopian possibility is a distressing concept for all of us.

MorganKitten · 13/08/2022 00:15

@HRTQueen Again about the shaming anal is far from shamed now why are you making out it is

Have you not read this whole thread? Lots of shaming going on.

sunglassesonthetable · 13/08/2022 00:15

That's my comment. Where have I frothed?

Not you specifically @StanleyBostitch General frothing on here.

@excitingusername DFOD

HRTQueen · 13/08/2022 00:22

and are you not aware of what is popular on porn

Or read sex tips aimed at young women often at teenagers

there is no shaming about anal from it, it’s been normalised and that a far more serious issue for
woman than anal being shamed by a few on mn that is predominantly women

fancy what many woman saying actually I don’t like anal and I don’t want young women coerced into feeling they should have anal sex as they might enjoy it/their partner will enjoy it

ImWell · 13/08/2022 00:28

Skidaramink · 12/08/2022 20:46

I think it is a bit disgusting to be honest. It's not at all what the human body was designed for.

The human body was not “designed” at all. Even if we assume that you were using a clumsy metaphor for the effects of evolution, though, it’s still a facile thing to write.

We we’re not “designed” to ride bikes, wear clothes, live in houses, or go to the cinema either, yet no-one’s stupid enough to claim that we therefore shouldn’t do any of these.

youlightupmyday · 13/08/2022 06:02

ImWell · 13/08/2022 00:28

The human body was not “designed” at all. Even if we assume that you were using a clumsy metaphor for the effects of evolution, though, it’s still a facile thing to write.

We we’re not “designed” to ride bikes, wear clothes, live in houses, or go to the cinema either, yet no-one’s stupid enough to claim that we therefore shouldn’t do any of these.

I am pretty ambivalent on this topic but loved this reply

TullyApplebottom · 13/08/2022 07:28

ImWell · 13/08/2022 00:28

The human body was not “designed” at all. Even if we assume that you were using a clumsy metaphor for the effects of evolution, though, it’s still a facile thing to write.

We we’re not “designed” to ride bikes, wear clothes, live in houses, or go to the cinema either, yet no-one’s stupid enough to claim that we therefore shouldn’t do any of these.

I think this gets the prize for most idiotic response on this thread.

TullyApplebottom · 13/08/2022 07:31

Mooshamoo · 12/08/2022 23:43

What? You know plenty of women have anal sex without ever getting injured, right?

So it's not comparable. Jumping on a spike causes injury. Anal sex can be done without causing any injury.

Sometimes I think people who haven't had anal sex, maybe dont know what they are talking about

The point being made is that the physical risk involved in an act does not disappear or lessen because you happen to have positive feelings about the other participant, and it’s beyond stupid to suggest it does. I’m sorry you didn’t manage to grasp that, but I hope it’s clear now.

DobbyHasASock · 13/08/2022 07:33

Sorry was busy, just to clear up a little misconception.
A poster was claiming teachers teach children how to have sex in year five. This is not true. In year five children can be taught the absolute basics of reproduction and sex from a very mechanical angle.

Any teacher talking to your 10 year old about how to get pleasure from sex, anal etc and pushing that kind of agenda needs their hard drive tested.

We have poor sex education take up amongst certain demographics in this country. I wish the up the butt advocates would stop and realise just who else would withdraw and how it would effect them if sex education became a how to manual, including risky behaviours, rather than centres on safety and respect as it is now.

The government has recently added components that deal with the normalisation of porn. As in, teaching it isn't real, depicts unsafe acts, harmful for actors etc. So no need to teach pupils specific harmful sex acts.

This is not the same as the American abstinence model. The UK has founded a sex education programme that is informative whilst steering clear of advocating acts. Pretending they are the same thing shows your agenda.
We don't need to give in to the normalisation of the harm of girls. What's next? Safe breathplay? Well judging by some of the don't shame me, comments, yes that's next.
It's not about you. It's about protecting children from acts that harm them. No adult in their right mind will teach children to self harm.

PollyRockets · 13/08/2022 07:35

DobbyHasASock · 13/08/2022 07:33

Sorry was busy, just to clear up a little misconception.
A poster was claiming teachers teach children how to have sex in year five. This is not true. In year five children can be taught the absolute basics of reproduction and sex from a very mechanical angle.

Any teacher talking to your 10 year old about how to get pleasure from sex, anal etc and pushing that kind of agenda needs their hard drive tested.

We have poor sex education take up amongst certain demographics in this country. I wish the up the butt advocates would stop and realise just who else would withdraw and how it would effect them if sex education became a how to manual, including risky behaviours, rather than centres on safety and respect as it is now.

The government has recently added components that deal with the normalisation of porn. As in, teaching it isn't real, depicts unsafe acts, harmful for actors etc. So no need to teach pupils specific harmful sex acts.

This is not the same as the American abstinence model. The UK has founded a sex education programme that is informative whilst steering clear of advocating acts. Pretending they are the same thing shows your agenda.
We don't need to give in to the normalisation of the harm of girls. What's next? Safe breathplay? Well judging by some of the don't shame me, comments, yes that's next.
It's not about you. It's about protecting children from acts that harm them. No adult in their right mind will teach children to self harm.

Who said children are taught how to have sex in year 5?

It was correctly stated sex education starts in year 5

You really are on a roll misreading and or misrepresenting

PollyRockets · 13/08/2022 07:37

@TullyApplebottom of course the risk is minimized by who you are doing it with!

Just like the risks of all manner of sexual injuries are minimised when having sex with someone you trust or like

DobbyHasASock · 13/08/2022 07:40

For parents reading it's important to be clear.
That children starting naming body parts and learn that an egg seeks a sperm is not a justification that we can slip anal sex in too.
Therefore, when posters talk about teaching about sex in year five people will draw the wrong conclusion.
As what we actually teach is way more in line with what sensible posters who think teaching how to have anal sex is grooming and harmful.
It's misleading to suggest because we teach some aspects of sex all can and should be covered.

RicottaAndBlueCheese · 13/08/2022 07:41

I'm 😂and 😳at the bumsex positive posters.

TullyApplebottom · 13/08/2022 07:43

PollyRockets · 13/08/2022 07:37

@TullyApplebottom of course the risk is minimized by who you are doing it with!

Just like the risks of all manner of sexual injuries are minimised when having sex with someone you trust or like

How???? The point is that part of your body is not adapted to that use. Putting it to that use creates risk of harm. That doesn’t go away because you think he’s a nice bloke for gods sake.

PollyRockets · 13/08/2022 07:44

DobbyHasASock · 13/08/2022 07:40

For parents reading it's important to be clear.
That children starting naming body parts and learn that an egg seeks a sperm is not a justification that we can slip anal sex in too.
Therefore, when posters talk about teaching about sex in year five people will draw the wrong conclusion.
As what we actually teach is way more in line with what sensible posters who think teaching how to have anal sex is grooming and harmful.
It's misleading to suggest because we teach some aspects of sex all can and should be covered.

People being you?

Don't think you not being able to understand is the same as everyone finding it difficult

TullyApplebottom · 13/08/2022 07:45

RicottaAndBlueCheese · 13/08/2022 07:41

I'm 😂and 😳at the bumsex positive posters.

There seems to be a high correlation between desire to engage in anal sex and propensity to say stupid and illogical things. Funny that.

PollyRockets · 13/08/2022 07:45

@TullyApplebottom

Christ you really are struggling here aren't you

What do you not understand about anal sex needing extra work to make it enjoyable

Doing it with someone you trust means they're more likely to be aligned with the prep work

Doing it with a random man from the pub you're more likely to have his sausage shoved up there with no gravy

FOJN · 13/08/2022 07:45

My issue with pornography is not the acts which are shown but with the normalisation of them without the required communication and preperation beforehand. So many perople, BOTH men and women, see what happens in porn and think they have an automatic need or right to replicate what they have seen. I really think all porn should require disclaimers by the professionals involved where they verbalise to the camera beforehand what they have consented to do in the scene people are about to see and what preperations were taken for it.

Performers issuing disclaimers in porn videos already happens. Pornography is a business and is all about making money. Porn makers require investment just like any other business but the banks are less inclined to lend money to any project which may not reflect well on them ethically or morally. Someone came up with the bright idea of having abused female porn performers finish horrifically violent videos with them speaking to camera to say how much they loved how they'd been abused and couldn't wait to do it again, complete with big smiles even as their mascara runs down their face from being choked by some bloke ramming his dick so face down their throat they can't breath. It's a lie.

Gail Dines has studied pornography for years, the video linked below is eye opening.
She says it's money which makes the porn makers hard, not sex. There is nothing evenly remotely erotic about the porn industry.

DobbyHasASock · 13/08/2022 07:48

Does it matter? It's important to clarify.
I misread something you said because I was slim reading. The point still stands. We dont teach year fives anything like the kind of content you are advocating. Let it go.

Rest assured that in the real world any teachers advocating pushing anal sex pleasure education on children would be reported as a child safety issue.

PollyRockets · 13/08/2022 07:49

DobbyHasASock · 13/08/2022 07:48

Does it matter? It's important to clarify.
I misread something you said because I was slim reading. The point still stands. We dont teach year fives anything like the kind of content you are advocating. Let it go.

Rest assured that in the real world any teachers advocating pushing anal sex pleasure education on children would be reported as a child safety issue.

The key is it didn't need clarification

You not understanding doesn't mean it's a common issue

Maybe look inwardly

TullyApplebottom · 13/08/2022 07:50

PollyRockets · 13/08/2022 07:45

@TullyApplebottom

Christ you really are struggling here aren't you

What do you not understand about anal sex needing extra work to make it enjoyable

Doing it with someone you trust means they're more likely to be aligned with the prep work

Doing it with a random man from the pub you're more likely to have his sausage shoved up there with no gravy

“Prep work”
it’s supposed to be fun not work. God almighty. The fact “work” has to be done is an obvious pointer to the fact that this is an act with risk attached. And it doesn’t matter how cooperative he is, that risk doesn’t go away.

PollyRockets · 13/08/2022 07:54

@TullyApplebottom

It does

If well lubricated and done properly the risks are minimised

Do you really not comprehend the difference between a penis being shoved up your anus with no lubrication at speed is going to be more harmful to your body, than a penis covered in lube that goes in slowly so your muscles can adjust, thus removing the issues anal sex can cause?

TullyApplebottom · 13/08/2022 07:57

PollyRockets · 13/08/2022 07:54

@TullyApplebottom

It does

If well lubricated and done properly the risks are minimised

Do you really not comprehend the difference between a penis being shoved up your anus with no lubrication at speed is going to be more harmful to your body, than a penis covered in lube that goes in slowly so your muscles can adjust, thus removing the issues anal sex can cause?

Do you not comprehend that the physical risks of this act do not go away because you happen to like the person you’re doing it with?

RufustheFloralmissingreindeer · 13/08/2022 07:58

TullyApplebottom · 13/08/2022 07:50

“Prep work”
it’s supposed to be fun not work. God almighty. The fact “work” has to be done is an obvious pointer to the fact that this is an act with risk attached. And it doesn’t matter how cooperative he is, that risk doesn’t go away.

I was just thinking this

TullyApplebottom · 13/08/2022 07:58

But you’re so clever, knowing how to do anal sex “safely”, aren’t you. What an achievement for you to look back on in old age.

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