Porn culture has led to women suffering injuries during sex

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Apart from all the violence etc porn portrays as normal, anal sex is definitely treated as an everyday thing that women enjoy. I don't personally. I know some women claim they do but I've certainly known men who pressure for it and I'm guessing it's only got worse in the years since I was dating.

This article suggests women are unknowingly entering into something that can cause serious injuries.

www.theguardian.com/society/2022/aug/11/rise-in-popularity-of-anal-sex-has-led-to-health-problems-for-women

You are missing the point.

The point is it was taboo and now apparently it's so normal we need to teach teenage girls how to do it lest they have life long disabilities.

I am asking why this has happened, my conclusion is its because of porn. The question then becomes if we just accept that this dangerous sex act is now normal why does it stop there? The poster I was replying to was trying to argue that anal is somehow different for reasons they admitted they couldn't rationalise. I am pointing out it isn't.

Has it ever occurred to you that you can't explain it because the difference is something you have created in your head and doesn't actually exist?

@Miffee do you even know what you're on about at this point? I said anal, oral and vaginal are types of penetration that's why they're different to other fantasies like 'sadism and threesomes'. It doesn't matter if you hate anal sex, it's still a type of penetration and should be discussed. I conveyed how a teacher could approach anal sex cautiously.

I made a completely coherent and sensible post but it's not good enough/incomprehensible to you unless I'm saying 'ewwww anal, cool girls, disgusting'.

Women’s boundaries are being constantly challenged

its not normal sex it’s a sex act that some may enjoy but it’s far more enjoyable for a man

just because some enjoy an act doesn’t make it normal

we really need to stop normalising sex acts that can be very harmful

@Miffee

The key here is the horse is already bolted

Pretending anal is still taboo and therefore no one should do it isn't helping anyone

It's now seen as 'normal' so needs to be treated the same as other methods of sexual penetration and therefore be covered when educating children.

I bet when you were young a lot of things were shameful

I wonder if you feel the same about all areas now less stigmatised

Okay. So are we teaching safety methods for all sex acts? What about teenage girls that may want to try masochism? Choking? Do they just have to risk it or are we teaching that to? If not please explain why?

@Stoma How are sadism and threesomes fantasies? They involve real sexual acts and are not imaginary. As I said before, anal sex may be a type of penetration, but it differs from oral and vaginal because it is frequently painful for the recipient.

@Miffee

As stated in previous posts I think this should be covered yes

Education is the way out of a lot of issues faced in the modern world

Oh bloody hell, do you have to nitpick everything? Fantasies/fetishes, whatever you call it, you know the point I'm making.

Indeed, twas quite the scandal when I flashed my ankles at the parson.

The horse has bolted so there is nothing to do but burn down all stables. How about a massive public health campaign? How about teaching boys that if they engage in this and cause damage its a criminal offence? How about we ban anal porn? Look at what we did with smoking. We can change norms of we trym

Anal is a type of penetration. That's all there is to it. Whether it hurts or not has no bearing on it.

Well at least you are consistent. I don't think there would be much time for maths and English if girls had to learn all about the various dangerous sex acts men may like to subject them to but maybe we could extend the school day.

I think it does. I do not want to educate women to perform an act that may quite likely hurt them. Certainly not as part of the curriculum.

@Miffee

Ah yes

The don't do it because you'll die campaigns have worked so well in the past

Scare tactics don't work

Honest and open discussions around all aspects of anal are what is needed, so people can make informed decisions around what they consent to.

So is being fucked up the nose. Is that okay too? Extra lube needed I would imagine. Still as long as we tell them to go slow I'm sure it will be fine.

@Miffee

That's why it's good to back this up at home

I've had many discussions with my eldest 2 children about anal sex, oral, consent, threesomes, various 'kinks' including BDSM and we even watched a great documentary on puppy play.

@Miffee I spit my tea out😂

We'll have to agree to disagree. You can frame it as a risky thing in education to deter it, but lack of sex education regarding it isn't an option now. I have an example of how to approach it in a way that I'd informative, highlights risks, consent.
Burying ones head in the sand is worse.

I literally used an example of an incredibly effective campaign and you have just entirely ignored it in your reply. Do you have a very short concentration span? Were there too many words?

Your kids should be removed from your care.

@Miffee

And which highly successful campaign would that be?

So is being fucked up the nose. Is that okay too? Extra lube needed I would imagine. Still as long as we tell them to go slow I'm sure it will be fine.

How many people do you know who have sex up their nose?

And again, I made a Sensible comment about saying ensure there is lubricant for any type of sex not just vaginal without explicitly saying anal sex at all, and you still have an issue. I'm sorry but what??

It's not burying my head, I just can't fathom that we are giving up on our girls like this. That the only answer is accepting that this is now a normal part of the world they have to navigate. It won't stop here, indeed this is just the latest thing.

When I was 17 I had a ‘friends with benefits’ aka a guy I was desperately into, older, hot, popular and I naively thought if I slept with him enough eventually he’d be with me. He would treat me like shit and I went back time and time again. He got bored of me, rather than fell hopelessly in love. I couldn’t cope with it and made myself look absolutely desperate practically begging him to come see me. He offered to pick me up from my birthday night out on my 18th but only if he could do you want put it in my ass. Again naivety made me think this was sexy but the reality was very different. He shoved himself into my mouth and held it there so long I was gagging and being sick in my mouth and he then pulled out and put it straight into my anus. He ignored my crying, did what he wanted to do and left me bleeding. He usually let me sleep over or dropped me home but instead he just kicked me out on to the street at 4am and I sat in a heap crying until a bus came at 8am to take me home. One of the most horrible memories I have, and the most degraded I have ever felt. He told everyone that he ‘ass fucked and lass chucked’ me. I was in pain for a week physically and a lot longer mentally. This isn’t something I ever talk about but it could so easily be your daughter. I wasn’t an overly sexual person at all. He was the second guy I’d ever slept with. I was naive and thought I was in love and thought I could get his attention. Everyone singing about how good anal is, I hope you can still understand exactly why you should warn your daughters about it.

That's horrific. I'm so sorry to hear that.

Yeah exactly.
When you are just becoming a secual being, all sex sounds kinda gross and yet you want to try it because people say it's fun. I don't think the appeal of anal vs PIV or oral is particularly different in that regard.