To think Tattle is disgusting?

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I was just searching for a lady I have followed on Instagram for some time (The Nurse Mum) who's little boy Jaxon sadly died. She's doing a ball event and I wanted to find out more info......anyway, after putting her name into Google I came across a website called Tattle with her name there. I've never seen this website before but having gone onto it my god it's awful! Such evil spouting from women about other people....I couldn't read on it was just so horrible and contrived.

How is something like that allowed to operate? Makes some of the 'harsh' comments on here look lovely 😕

Meh. I think if you put yourself out there in the public eye, you can’t police what people say about you. I don’t know much about Lauren Goodger & haven’t seen her Instagram/ Tattle thread, but from what the poster above says, if she is SHARING that info on her black eye/partner/whatever is going on in her life, then people will discuss it. If she didn’t want that to happen, the simple thing is to stop posting, and the threads would go away.

There is one particular thread over there which I find awful.

There is an account on Insta and FB that belongs to a woman who's become relatively well known for parodying Celeste Barber. She's a poor copy I admit, something I'd seen and then moved on from, but my goodness the vitriol for this woman on Tattle is out of this world.

It seems to come mostly from one woman, who clearly holds a grudge. the thread is almost completely taken up with her. Now, if you don't like a person, don't follow, move on. But this woman and a few others mock her appearance, question the sexuality of both her and her husband, the state of their home, they claim to have contacted social services about her children and report her every post. It's nothing short of a witch hunt. Quite why it remains baffles me.

I read a fair bit on tattle, but that thread just exists to bully and belittle another woman and frankly it's horrific.

@Artooo but that woman (I think I know the one you’re referring to) puts herself out there on Instagram etc for all to see - in doing so she is inviting comments - Even if it’s not favourable. Again, playing devil’s advocate a bit but I think commenting on anyone who has a PUBLIC page is fair game tbh. You can’t make money from being in the public eye from Instagram if you can’t handle criticism/discussion/being proper slagged off.
i would HATE for random strangers to slag me off all day long, so I don’t make my social media public, & monetise it. Can’t have it both ways.

Agree with @Oldrockingchair and I know who you're talking about. The way she (and her mate, another slummy mummy type account) talk about their children is disgusting. None of the kids have given consent or have asked to have their mothers continually slagging them off over social media for all the world to see. The account you're talking about has chosen to put herself all over social media, the kids have not.

The thing is, there is a lot of nasty spouting on tattle.

However it’s roots were borne out of frustration that there was absolutely no accountability for influencers. They were flogging things without flagging anything at all as an ad. They were convincing people to buy things they hadn’t bought themselves. It just looked like your mate giving you tips, but it wasn’t. They didn’t tell anyone they were getting money from the links. Some were vastly abusing their childrens’ privacy. Some were abusive to their children. Some were racist.

People who highlighted/questioned any of this were jumped on, abused, doxxed, but most of the time the comments were simply deleted, so the cycle continued.

Clemmie MOD showed that the ones crying wolf were just as bad.

It’s probably served it’s time, but it’s worth remembering that nothing on Instagram or YouTube would have been regulated without people banding together and being loud enough.

Initially liked it due to how nice posters are to each other there (ahem)

But got sidetracked onto threads like the conspiracy theory and vaccine ones, and I think it's an embarassment tattle are allowing such crap to be hosted on their site.

I've looked a bit closer at Tattle since this thread and I think it's a shame and a bit of a loose cannon on the internet. They say all the right things about hate speech being deleted but I've seen comments about Meghan being a cunt and so on.

And the thread titles are cringe.

I thought it was a good idea to hold Insta influencers accountable, but now it seems to be a home for the lowest common denominator.

Unless anyone can persuade me otherwise.

Agree with all this

The anti-vaccine thread is also crazy - suprised people are still so vitriolic on there.

Just came across tattle and did a search on here to see if others felt the same way. Couldn't believe what I was reading about Mrs Hinch?? Awful disgusting people on there

@Wowzers12 agree. I braved looking at some of the other threads too, the ones about h&m particularly vile - If people spoke like that in a school or workplace they'd be guilty of horrific bullying and I don't think online changes that!

I find tattle a double edged sword. There are plenty of valid critiques of various insta/social media types and their accounts deserve the scrutinity they get from tattle for ad standards etc. They're often right on the money- and I've seen a lot of people talk honestly about how negative or foolish an influencer has made them feel, or discussed negative interactions with them. They have no truck with bullshit, such as insta-bleaters famous false threats to utilise IP addresses. There are sleb-fan rave threads, too apparently and lots of general non gossip threads, but they don't get mentioned as much. Commenters are also allowed opinions. They are allowed to say they dislike something and say why, tattle is a discussion forum. It does happen on here, too!

... But this is where tattle becomes double edged. Some people take it too far. Some threads, though critical, are fine but some of them get mired down in jeering pile ons over every tiny thing someone says or does or keeping an almost stalkerish level of surveillance on people. Some of their comments are very, very sharp. It gets very jading and obsessive to read. Some of them mustn't have lives beyond this. If these elements were held more in check, Tattle would be fine and on the money.

Having read both websites though, I actually find mumsnet rather two faced in comparison. It's Malory Towers- which claims to turn out nice, kind young ladies- despite the books showing you the girls mercilessly verbally and sometimes physically abusing and mocking each other, to Tattles supposedly "worse" St Trinian's; where actually everyone just gets on and pulls together. Tattlers don't seem to much turn on each other. People here preach about how tattle is so dreadful but will then rip each other to bits and be unnecessarily vicious under the guise of "advice". A lot of them emboldened by anonymity. There are some very unpleasant people on here on addition to those on the tattle lunatic fringe.

A relative of mine got really sucked into Tattle and its quest to ‘expose’ certain influencers. She really thought she was one of the good guys heroically doing battle with the unethical influencers and their advertising practices. But it went beyond that into an obsession and, long story short, she ended up losing her job because of it.

I agree that if you put your life in the public eye you expect to be talked about, but the obsessive way in which some of these Tattle types forensically analyse every post constantly looking for some kind of ‘aha!’ detail, so that they can use it to destroy the poster, is very unhealthy and scary behaviour.

I agree there are some extremely nasty comments on there....but then there is in every corner of the internet. Twitter for example is full of people saying horrible things to and about other people. Whilst I don't think it's nice, there's a difference between gossiping about someone (however nasty and obsessive) and sending them abuse, but maybe Tattle gets more disapproval because it's seen as largely women posting, and women are supposed to be kind aren't we? I would say if you don't like something on the internet, just don't read it. And if 'celebrities' don't like stuff posted about them - again, don't read it.

A semi famous ex reality star mum influencer has just been investigated by social services on the back of what she puts out on Instagram, this has been discussed on Tattle at length and some posters are admitting they reported her.

She absolutely deserved it, she posts about appallingly lax parenting.

Well put! I agree.

I mean, you can see that as a win but tbh, in a world where families are forced to use food banks, energy prices are through the roof and men can have child after child without ever providing a penny to support them (also with absolutely no accountability), I’m not sure that a few women earning money via Insta is the battle I would have chosen.

To me it reeks of jealousy and bitterness of other women’s success (and it is mainly women). People don’t like influencers because they think it’s easy money. I don’t know if it is or isn’t tbh but either way I think it’s great that people (particularly mothers) can earn a living from home. It’s the epitome of flexible working and we need as many opportunities for that as possible. I think it’s actually pretty enterprising to capitalise on your daily chores, your fitness regime or your dress sense to earn your living and disappointing that we don’t celebrate these women rather than trying to pull them down.

Ironically I also think this is why Tattle (and Mumsnet actually) receives so much negativity in comparison to Twitter (which is also a hotbed of nastiness) - because the perception is that it’s bitter women bullying other women. It’s far easier to focus on that than to acknowledge the fact that internet sites should be subject to far more regulation and accountability. Surely Tattle would be supportive given their past position on accountability.

Are you able to expand on how she lost her job at all?

It definitely goes too far and people egg each other on to be nastier and nastier BUT I do think it is so important that insta-celebrities are held to account somewhere.

It’s a bit of a relief for there to be a corner of the internet calling out undisclosed adverts by these people and showing those of us who were initially quite naive what a lot of it actually is… We see it time and time again with these people online, “You guys, I’m going to have #twoundertwo do you think I need a double buggy?” and then Bam! - gifted a 2k pram, or “Can anyone recommend a good washing machine?” .. a brand new high end washing machine appears gifted.
Tattle can be really bad but these Insta-celebrities are also not your friends.

Yes, calling some of them out on their obvious begging is a good thing.

Yes but opposing views are allowed on Mumsnet, you're unlikely to find a whole thread of people who OP bash.
On Tattle your post will be deleted and banned if you have the audacity to point out the level of hypocrisy going on.
It saddens me that so many of these women are bringing up the next generation who no doubt will go on to display the same bullying behaviour.

Oh and of course it's women.... 🙄

Having read both websites though, I actually find mumsnet rather two faced in comparison.

I agree. There's been some horrible threads on here recently where the OP had been piled on for asking/posting something perfectly reasonable.

I’m not sure that a few women earning money via Insta is the battle I would have chosen

It's not just women though is it? And a lot of influencers already had plenty of money behind them before they became influencers. How else would you show an aspirational lifestyle if you were living on Jobseekers? I also can't stand this 'women should be supporting other women' bollocks. People like Mother of Daughters and Father of Daughters were selling a lifestyle that most of their followers couldn't hope to achieve, partly funded by shady advertising deals that they weren't declaring and that's before we get into how they plastered their little kids all over the internet for fame or fortune.

I’m not sure that a few women earning money via Insta is the battle I would have chosen.

To me it reeks of jealousy and bitterness of other women’s success (and it is mainly women). People don’t like influencers because they think it’s easy money. I don’t know if it is or isn’t tbh but either way I think it’s great that people (particularly mothers) can earn a living from home. It’s the epitome of flexible working and we need as many opportunities for that as possible. I think it’s actually pretty enterprising to capitalise on your daily chores, your fitness regime or your dress sense to earn your living and disappointing that we don’t celebrate these women rather than trying to pull them down

Hard disagree with all of this, influencers are pathetic. It is not a job. It’s narcissism, pure and simple.

I don’t know all the details and it was a couple of years ago now, but I think she had been responding to various influencer posts accusing them of having received free stuff and not declaring it. And then it turned out one of the brands involved was a client of where she worked, or linked to them somehow, and someone saw her comments and complained to her employer. I’m sure there was more to it than that but that was the gist! She does acknowledge now that it was quite silly of her.

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Can’t tell if talking about Tattle or AIBU.