Do beautiful women realize that ugly women are treated very differently?

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My friend (who is very beautiful) got into a relationship not so long ago and said how she hopes I’ll be soon in one too - she knows I’d like a relationship also.
Well, few days ago she was telling me to just go to a bar and get chatted up with men, it won’t be long etc. and I’d just had to laugh, and asked her does she remember any man to ever have done that before and why would is sudenly have changed.
I think I accidentally made things akward because she went really quiet.
She pretty much can go anywhere and men will start up conversation or get asked out.

And this made me think if she genuinely thought we all have the same opportunities?

my woman

<vomits>

1950 called. It wants its possessive adjectives back.

Nope. Telling a cat caller that their behaviour is unacceptable doesn’t make me a bully.

Cat calling was more common 20 years ago, but still not something that most men did. If you think it is, that further demonstrates my above point. Men like you are and remain the problem.

I will dare tell you how awful it is. What are you planning on doing about it?

Christ, I missed that. He’s just the gift that keeps on giving.

For someone who's trying to demonstrate his matured and improved skills with the ladies, Liivee, you aren't half doing a crap job.

And incidentally, yes, we know catcalling has been everywhere for a loooooong time. (Can you guess how we know?)

But it is still true that most men don't do it. The fact that it still poses such a serious issue and always has is because the minority who does it is still very sizeable, is really fucking vocal about it and too many others don't take it seriously.

Of course you will. As stated above, a complete lack of accountability or self awareness was a foregone conclusion.

Have the day you deserve.

Honestly I don't think anybody is truly 'ugly' on the outside. Also, anybody can make the best of what they've got, hair dye, going to the gym, looking after your weight, teeth, dressing nicely, acne treatments etc.
It doesn't have to cost much either. Somebody well-groomed, well-presented and confident will be attractive to many people, you really don't have to be some sort of supermodel.

A good friend of mine is far from conventionally beautiful, she was bullied a little at school for it too sadly. She's beautiful in her own way, she's confident and she's happily married to a man who'd be considered fairly attractive and who thinks she's beautiful.

As a side note I was always considered very attractive but struggled to find a man who wanted to be with me and didn't just want to sleep with me. I'm happily partnered up now but it's taken me 5 years to find someone who was interested in something serious with me.

@Liivee

What would you know

About the experience of being harassed by men?

Probably more than a man does.

I can't believe we just got sexual harassment mansplained to us. Sorry, any gents who are reading, I do try to avoid that term. But what else am I supposed to say when a dude explains to me that catcalling is common? And actually says to a woman "what would you know?" about responses to it?

It's actually amazing.

Ahhh stop bullying the poor man…he made an account and everything just to give us the benefit of his special man wisdom. One man’s view on women’s lives is worth so much more than the actual lived experience of all women.

This is because he personally knows one woman who mentioned something to him once… oh and not forgetting his total misogynistic outlook that he has not grown out of since he was a misogynistic 20 year old so whatever he says about women goes.

Yeah. That happened, for sure. 🙄

“You posters have a very man-attacking and man-distrusting nature. It's so strange versus the real world. My experience of women in life has been for the most part very pleasant tho.”

Jesus wept. You’re still not getting it are you mate? Most of the ‘attacking’ in the real world only goes one way in terms of men and women. And then you wonder why, when given the opportunity to talk anonymously to other women (in the most part) they come across as distrusting of men?

But glad to hear your little man world hasn’t been rocked by any of these angry ‘bad’ women. That really is a relief to us.

It's uncommon since the last 15 or so years.

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Honestly, stop talking.

@Liivee

It's uncommon since the last 15 or so years. I'm a lads lad, football background and I haven't socially seen one instance in the last 10yrs.

😂😂😂😂😂

So because you haven't socially witnessed (aka noticed) a woman being wolf whistled in the last 10 years, you think that the multiple women disagreeing with you are... what? Lying? Imagining it?

I've been on the receiving end of it multiple times this year. See also horns being beeped and shouting at me from the car. Both happen most when I'm running. Literally just trying to exercise in peace.

You know who recently experienced being wolf whistled for the first time? My god daughter. She's 12. The wolf whistles were from a small group of adult men. She came home and burst into tears. She was frightened and said that she didn't want to be a grown up because it's scary.

Presumably you consider yourself a man capable of critical thinking. What do you think is more likely - that it has still been happening for the last decade and you haven't witnessed or noticed it, or that all the women and girls who say it still happens very regularly are lying?

Interested to hear your thoughts.

Interested to hear your thoughts.

God, I'm not.

I agree. I don't think I find anyone ugly, and taking care of yourself can be free/cheap. Doesn't mean you will look like a supermodel but everyone can brush up well!

I have a friend who facially isn't absolutely beautiful but she's tall, blonde and big boobs. Men literally become animals around her, her inbox was always full of messages.
I have another friend who wasn't considered that beautiful either but is very tall, she always got hit on when we went out.
I was always told I was attractive, beautiful and so on but mostly got ignored, apart from when I was like 16-18.
I think it's a vibe we give off sometimes. I've always been shy and this likely comes across. I also think a large number of men will instantly go for something like long blonde hair, for some reason.

I was just about to type this! A friend of mine is (in my opinion) absolutely gorgeous. She struggled to find a boyfriend when we were teens and didn't marry until her late 30s, despite all her female friends honestly thinking she was really attractive.

But most men didn't seem to find her so, my husband commented on it when I was saying I couldn't understand why XXX was still single, he gave me this "really?" look, and he said he'd often noted that women his female friends said were gorgeous did nothing for him or his male friends. Funny buggers.

I think it may also have a little to do with self esteem - I spent the first 21 years of my life convinced I was hideous because that's what my mother, brother and sister told me. I never had a boyfriend in that time.

I got a really good job they said I'd never get and moved far away at 21, and the confidence boost that gave me suddenly saw men flocking around me - I at first assumed they were on a wind up, as I really didn’t (and to some extent still don’t) think I'm pretty, but I was happy in myself and very obviously having a good time when I went out. For some reason, that does seem to attract men (weirdos)! Looking back to when I first moved away I missed so many obvious signals that men liked me because I honestly couldn't believe anyone would be interested in me!

I was happy in myself and very obviously having a good time when I went out. For some reason, that does seem to attract men (weirdos)

What's weird about being attracted to a happy, positive and fun person?

When you're ugly, and someone loves you, you know they love you for who you are... Beautiful people never know who to trust.

-drax the destroyer