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AIBU?

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To go abroad without DD?

168 replies

MumChats · 09/08/2022 09:23

DH has a big birthday next month. I booked us a surprise trip abroad (we are UK based, its in Europe) and asked in-laws to have 18-month old DD for 2 nights while we are away. All seemed like a great idea.

We are due to go next month and as the trip approaches i am feeling really bad about leaving DD. In laws are great and she knows and likes them. However we have left her twice recently where it hasn't gone so well and it's niggling me about leaving her again. The first, we left her from about 2pm to 11pm, she was well when we left but within a few hours she'd suddenly become ill and MIL ended up in A&E with her. She was discharged that night after a steroid but it was rattling. The second time we left her overnight with DM. She had a great time, loves DM and was fine when we collected her but as the day went on she seemed out of sorts, fussing quite a lot, cried at bedtime (unusual). Because of those two things, particularly the second where she wasn't herself, I'm worried that leaving her for 2 nights is the wrong thing to do and that maybe she's at an age where it's affecting her emotionally to not know where we are/she misses us.

I've wondered about taking her on the trip, as she's only 18 months i assume i could ring the airline and get her added to my seat. The problem is it's not a toddler-friendly trip. Quite a lot of travel - 1hr30 drive to airport, 2 hr flight, then 2 hr drive, one full day in the country and then travelling home again. Also, the full day we are attending a sporting event and it wont be fun for her. Prefer not to say exactly what but imagine something like a tennis tournament, so there's something going on all day long (not like 90 minute football match type thing). There are some stands but we'll be spectating from viewing points with TV screens and get glimpses of the courts here and there. It will be hot and crowded and is really not something a toddler would enjoy.

So my AIBU I suppose is: given the last couple of times we've left her where it hasn't gone really well, are we being selfish to leave her again? Or would it be selfish to take her on a trip she will not enjoy when she could be having 2 nights with her doting grandparents? I'm really torn.

Cancelling isn't an option. It was a lot of money and was meant to be a big exciting treat for DH (and hopefully on some level still will be)! DH knows about the trip now and thinks we should go without DD. He isn't worried about leaving her but does agree she was a bit upset after we collected her from DM. This is so long thank you for anyone who got to the end! Trying not to drip feed i've included so much info!

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BigSandyBalls2015 · 10/08/2022 08:48

@BunnyHopDance good luck when they all piss off to uni and you’re sat there thinking “who is this man”.

BunnyHopDance · 10/08/2022 08:55

BigSandyBalls2015 · 10/08/2022 08:48

@BunnyHopDance good luck when they all piss off to uni and you’re sat there thinking “who is this man”.

We were together ten years before we had children so we know each other inside out, but thanks 😅

LuckySantangelo35 · 10/08/2022 08:56

BunnyHopDance · 10/08/2022 08:55

We were together ten years before we had children so we know each other inside out, but thanks 😅

@BunnyHopDance

aye and your relationship can still break down if you neglect it no matter how long you were together before having kids

IfOn · 10/08/2022 08:58

BunnyHopDance · 10/08/2022 08:46

Unfortunately we have too many people that want to watch our children as we are a big family and have to continually say no.

We had children to build a life with them, not to carry on a life as though they didn’t exist.

We enjoy spending our lives with our children so wouldn’t want to go somewhere without them.

Ok good for you super mum. Here's a big fat medal. Hip hip hip Hooray for you.

FHmama · 10/08/2022 08:59

Absolutely fine, if I was you I would leave her for 2 nights and go on the trip. Enjoy yourselves

sweeneytoddsrazor · 10/08/2022 09:05

A weekend away is not behaving as if they don't exist. What absolute utter bollocks.

MajorCarolDanvers · 10/08/2022 09:07

Go. Enjoy your holiday. She will be spoiled by her grandparents and have a great time.

It's ok to have adult and couple time.

Sandcastlesinthesky · 10/08/2022 09:10

I would only leave mine for one night at that age and I would at least be in the same country if they became ill.

LuckySantangelo35 · 10/08/2022 09:12

BunnyHopDance · 10/08/2022 08:46

Unfortunately we have too many people that want to watch our children as we are a big family and have to continually say no.

We had children to build a life with them, not to carry on a life as though they didn’t exist.

We enjoy spending our lives with our children so wouldn’t want to go somewhere without them.

@BunnyHopDance

plus do you really think if you don’t go anywhere without your kids you are thing to live your life as if they don’t exist?!

do you never go out with your mates without your kids?! you never spend any child free time with your husband?!

you do realise that one day your kids will have their own lives? Their own mates? Their own partners? They will leave home, maybe leave your town, maybe even leave the country. Then what will you do if you’ve sacrificed everything for them?

you could end up being very sad and lonely with your attitude!

LuckySantangelo35 · 10/08/2022 09:14

Sandcastlesinthesky · 10/08/2022 09:10

I would only leave mine for one night at that age and I would at least be in the same country if they became ill.

@Sandcastlesinthesky

why? Grandmother has said she’s fine to have for two nights. Do you think you’re the only person able to care for a baby?!

and I Nah I wouldn’t stay in the same country for the trip, it wouldn’t be as special

shinynewapple22 · 10/08/2022 09:16

I think given the description of the trip you are planning it would be more unkind to take her with you.

I think that most young children probably have times where they are cared for by family members - often just to give parents a break. We didn't do it, but that was more about the lack of appropriate support in our families. I am sure your DC will be fine with her grandparents .

LuckySantangelo35 · 10/08/2022 09:16

The mummy Martyrs on here fascinate me

I couldn’t be like them if I tried but I just think why?!

life is too short to constantly self sacrifice and it really doesn’t make you a better mother

mummy Martys like @BunnyHopDance and @dolphinsarentcommon why do you do it?! Genuinely curious!

MajorCarolDanvers · 10/08/2022 09:20

LuckySantangelo35 · 10/08/2022 09:16

The mummy Martyrs on here fascinate me

I couldn’t be like them if I tried but I just think why?!

life is too short to constantly self sacrifice and it really doesn’t make you a better mother

mummy Martys like @BunnyHopDance and @dolphinsarentcommon why do you do it?! Genuinely curious!

I find their approach stifling and rigid and fear they will be raising snowflakes who won't be able to function in the adult world.

LuckySantangelo35 · 10/08/2022 09:22

MajorCarolDanvers · 10/08/2022 09:20

I find their approach stifling and rigid and fear they will be raising snowflakes who won't be able to function in the adult world.

Yes!

it’s bad for the kids as well as the mothers

PatientlyWaiting21 · 10/08/2022 09:58

Just go, probably just out of sorts bevsuse she’s not used to it. It’s only two nights. She will be well looked after. Enjoy!

bendmeoverbackwards · 10/08/2022 10:01

BunnyHopDance · 09/08/2022 10:15

Yes, two. I would never dump them just to go frolicking abroad.

Bully for you @BunnyHopDance You are not setting your children an example that as well as mother you are also a person in your own right with your own life/marriage/friendships. It is our ultimate aim as parents to raise independent people who can function without us. And this process has to start early. Even if children are anxious without us, we need to show them that other trusted adults can also care for and love them.

Classicblunder · 10/08/2022 10:04

LuckySantangelo35 · 10/08/2022 09:16

The mummy Martyrs on here fascinate me

I couldn’t be like them if I tried but I just think why?!

life is too short to constantly self sacrifice and it really doesn’t make you a better mother

mummy Martys like @BunnyHopDance and @dolphinsarentcommon why do you do it?! Genuinely curious!

When I have seen this IRL it has been women who don't want to be alone with their husbands - either because they don't love them any more or because there are control/abuse issues. Obviously no one will admit to that on here.

Trivester · 10/08/2022 10:19

One of the things that jumped out for me is how competent and responsible your mil sounds - she picked up on your dd being unwell and took her to hospital.

My mil refused to acknowledge that my dd was injured and tried to block me from taking her to a&e. That’s a particularly clear cut example but there were a lot of small niggles that made me reluctant to trust her with my dc, and in turn made it difficult to leave them with my dm because of “fairness” and expectations. It contributed to my anxiety.

I think you should go. You have top class care for your dd, and spending time with her gps will be great for her. Spending time as a couple will be great for you too. There are no losers in this situation, so go and enjoy your time away.

LuckySantangelo35 · 10/08/2022 10:19

@BunnyHopDance

“Yes, two. I would never dump them just to go frolicking abroad.“

what better reason could there be?! I couldn’t cope if I had to stay in the uk year on year

Endlesslypatient82 · 10/08/2022 10:20

“Frolicking abroad”? Hell yes! Sold!

BigSandyBalls2015 · 10/08/2022 10:46

Hilarious that 2 days abroad clearly means you're behaving like your DCs don't exist Grin.

You'd think you were planning to close the front door and head off to the airport leaving her in bed.

SleepingStandingUp · 10/08/2022 10:56

@BunnyHopDance

Yes, two. I would never dump them just to go frolicking abroad.

How about if I dump them in DH to go frolicking for something cultural ALONE. Is that ok? They're with an adequate parent not, god forbid, a grandparent after all 😂

IfOn · 10/08/2022 11:05

SleepingStandingUp · 10/08/2022 10:56

@BunnyHopDance

Yes, two. I would never dump them just to go frolicking abroad.

How about if I dump them in DH to go frolicking for something cultural ALONE. Is that ok? They're with an adequate parent not, god forbid, a grandparent after all 😂

How dare you leave your DC with their other parent or grand parent 😂

SuperPets · 10/08/2022 11:05

When you have children you put them first and lovely travel with your OH is over for a good while

Maybe for YOU. The rest of us know that its perfectly fine to have fun without children. Much healthier in fact.

These mummy martyrs are the same ones who wont go anywhere their kids are not invited and then wonder why they have no friends, and then no life at all once the kids are teenagers!

LuckySantangelo35 · 10/08/2022 11:12

Antsinmypantsneedtodance · 09/08/2022 09:34

I couldn't do it, but thats me.

You do you. You ve already left her before so it's not much different. She'll be fine.

An alternative is your change name on booking and DH takes a friend.

@Antsinmypantsneedtodance

why couldn’t you do it?

don’t you like going abroad? Not fancy spending time with your Dh?