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To think Apple is far superior to android?

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Wineislifealways · 08/08/2022 21:28

In terms of iPhones are better than android? Is it true that androids are less secure and more likely to have viruses? And that they crash and become unresponsive a lot? I have an iPhone but DH has an android and I can’t even use it, I hate it

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Lunar270 · 08/08/2022 22:11

Horses for courses really. I can't stand anything Apple as they've a history of making life difficult for users who own non apple products and charge a fortune for products that aren't genuinely better than the competition. Just different.

It's true that their OS's have been more stable. Especially when comparing their computers to PC's and Microsoft. But you really pay for it and I'd rather set up a PC with Linux if I wanted genuinely bomb proof performance.

Phone wise I hate the fact that Apple charge so much for a small increment in memory. The cost is huge between 128, 256, 512GB whereas an SD card can be bought for peanuts. I think you can often buy an equivalent or better spec android for between 50-70% of the cost of an iPhone.

The rest of my family have Apple and constantly complain about battery life. I don't have any issues with my android and (touch wood) haven't had any viruses. I think Apple are more secure with viruses but historically it's been because they were the niche choice. Not so much nowadays.

Both are probably terrible with security, when considering Siri or Google. Apple have had issues with Siri recording all sorts of highly private conversations due to their software. I've no doubt Google have the same issues as they're all gathering and using our data.

They're definitely slick to use but just not slick enough for me to give up my android.

HelloThereObiWan · 08/08/2022 22:12

Googlecanthelpme · 08/08/2022 22:05

I’m Apple all the way, it’s not just the phone itself though, it is the convenience and the integrated tech.

Take AirPods for example - I never have an issue with mine. I love them. As earphones go they are elite level. I have had so many pairs of wireless earphones over the last decade and none come close to the experience of AirPods. They just fucking work.

in a world where you have to spend time trying and failing to connect Bluetooth earphones to your phone every single time you want to use them - AirPods just changed the game.

and the fact when you buy a new iPhone or iPad it all just works - no logging in, no faffing. Just put it next to your old phone and hey presto it’s done. The fact it updates your new credit card in wallet without drama and then saves your card details to prepopulate for online shopping. Saves all the passwords, connects everything to “Find My” app.

i love the phones but it’s the way that all the tech works together that sells it for me.

I absolutely loathe my samsung work phone. It feels incredibly slow and antiquated, it’s only 2 years old!

My Google Pixel does all of this.

I switch my Bluetooth headphones on and they connect straight away.

When I upgraded I just had to log into my Google account on my new phone and all my settings, apps, passwords etc were loaded onto my new device.

When I'm shopping online I just use my fingerprint to authorise my phone to enter my credit card details.

Your work phone is probably loaded with extra security and other features that will slow it down, plus it's probably not very high spec given it's a work phone.

Compare your iPhone to the latest Google Pixel and you might find it's a different story....

Bretonbear · 08/08/2022 22:13

Much prefer Android

lot123 · 08/08/2022 22:15

I'm sure there's some confirmatory bias here. You've paid a lot of money so you want it to be a good investment.

In our house, we have four iPads, two iPhones, and Samsung, Oppo and Huawei phones. I honestly don't think there's anything to choose between them, other than the iPhones being more fragile and bloody expensive.

My iPad syncs quite happily with my Samsung. The two lower end brands could easily pass for a more expensive phone, other than the new Huawei phones not having Google which would be a pain.

I don't find Apple products more user-friendly than Androids. Frankly they're all straightforward other than I can never seem to re-find files I've saved on my iPad.

SwanBuster · 08/08/2022 22:17

Both are great systems. Which is preferable tends to depend on the Use case.

I use both, just like I use windows/Linux/Mac OS dependent on the task.

the iPhone is a superb piece of hardware, generally let down by the lack of easy repairability and in modern generations, apples insistence to tie things like the battery and the screen to that particular phone. It is a devious and unconscionable act for those who can repair things itself.

the operating system is also brilliant, but highly limited in allowing the user to do particular tasks/customisations and run anything that Apple doesn’t validate.

it is the safer operating system for non technical users. And in general, Apple supports the hardware much longer in terms of Os updates.

android phones generally allow you to configure them and customise them much more, and do certain tasks that the iPhone /iOS combination just doesn’t allow.

unfortunately in recent years most manufacturers have also gone down apples path of making the devices very difficult to repair.

overall - horses for courses. I like both but my primary phone is an iPhone because there is no substitute for GarageBands brilliance.

Discovereads · 08/08/2022 22:17

PoolSquid · 08/08/2022 21:54

Better supply chain auditing against suppliers using slave or child labour (android prices are too good to be possible without turning a blind eye to both of those)

You realise you're comparing a manufacturer with an operating system?

No Im not. Apple’s suppliers are manufacturers and assemblers.

teaandtoastwithmarmite · 08/08/2022 22:18

I have a iPhone 12 mini and it's great. My only gripe is because it's 5g it doesn't seem to be fast at 4g.

Beees · 08/08/2022 22:19

I'm sure there's some confirmatory bias here. You've paid a lot of money so you want it to be a good investment.

I definitely agree with this. It's also worth noting the fact that many who have Apple products feel invested in the concept of it all linking together so even if they did think a different phone might better suit their needs they feel like they can't jump from the Apple ship.

SwanBuster · 08/08/2022 22:19

Discovereads · 08/08/2022 22:17

No Im not. Apple’s suppliers are manufacturers and assemblers.

You really are. Android is an operating system. It runs on devices from a multitude of manufacturers, from extremely small boutique / cheapo to absolutely massive like Samsung.

Discovereads · 08/08/2022 22:23

SwanBuster · 08/08/2022 22:19

You really are. Android is an operating system. It runs on devices from a multitude of manufacturers, from extremely small boutique / cheapo to absolutely massive like Samsung.

But I didn’t compare? I listed why I prefer Apple. You’re the one extrapolating that to be vs. android. In my mind I was comparing Apple vs. Every other brand.

Whyarewehardofthinking · 08/08/2022 22:23

As previously said, Apple market products that are well designed for most people to be able to use easily and not fuck up; very easily demonstrated when the iPod came out. They had a simple interface and iTunes did everything for you. They also go for design over functionality. This has continued with all of their products and the integration between hardware is still superior.

It's not for me though. I've never got on with Apple as I've always built my own PCs and want much more control over any device I have without being tied to having to exclusively use something integrated without having to jailbreak something. Android gives me that and also the freedom to choose what phone I use Android on. Android is also much more stable and gives you so much more usability. My elderly parents use Apple phones as iOS is basic, for want of a better word, so they can use it easily.

I've been a Samsung fan for a while, so all of my personal devices are Samsung. Pixels from Google have also been quite good. The only thing they lack is the integration to a laptop/PC like you can with Apple, but that is not enough of a pull to deal with all the issues surrounding Apple software or upgrading hardware.

womaninatightspot · 08/08/2022 22:26

Wineislifealways · 08/08/2022 21:34

Is an iPhone 11 old? That’s what I have x

We’ll they’re launching iPhone 14 next month so it’s getting old. I have an iPhone 11 too though and I really like it. Was 99 quid with a 20 quid a month unlimited data contract so wasn’t expensive either.

justasking111 · 08/08/2022 22:26

The expert reviews a few months ago put Samsung ahead for various reasons. However they'll lose that edge soon. Honestly unless you're techy it doesn't really matter

Lunar270 · 08/08/2022 22:26

Discovereads · 08/08/2022 22:23

But I didn’t compare? I listed why I prefer Apple. You’re the one extrapolating that to be vs. android. In my mind I was comparing Apple vs. Every other brand.

If I'm honest apple products are more expensive, not because of the dubious manufacturing of others, but due to market placement.

They've always placed themselves as a premium manufacturer and well above everyone else. But this is the problem when the quality of their products isn't really head and shoulders above everyone else.

SwanBuster · 08/08/2022 22:26

Discovereads · 08/08/2022 22:23

But I didn’t compare? I listed why I prefer Apple. You’re the one extrapolating that to be vs. android. In my mind I was comparing Apple vs. Every other brand.

You literally wrote ‘android prices are too good to be possible without them ignoring auditing’. Don’t backtrack because you don’t know what you’re talking about.

So what you wrote is utter bullshit, because you are putting every manufacturer who uses android (which is as an operating system) into one basket. every one. Google themselves make phones now. Samsung do. At the top end, the prices exceed Apple’s pricing.

SmellyWellyWoo · 08/08/2022 22:27

I love iPhones but they are definitely over priced for what you get.

PoolSquid · 08/08/2022 22:27

Discovereads · 08/08/2022 22:17

No Im not. Apple’s suppliers are manufacturers and assemblers.

But android is an operating system. 'Android' don't make phones so there can be no comment on how ethical they are compared to apple

RubaDubMum89 · 08/08/2022 22:28

I've not had an iPhone since the iPhone 4, having previously been a devout iPhone follower. However, it got to the stage where I was literally uploading photos and videos to my laptop every week as the storage was horrendous and they've no option to add an additional SD card and the IoS systems were so large you'd lost 1/3 of your storage before you even started. I eventually switched to android to save my sanity and honestly, id never go back now. I never realised how restrictive iPhones were until I stepped away from them

youlightupmyday · 08/08/2022 22:28

SwanBuster · 08/08/2022 22:19

You really are. Android is an operating system. It runs on devices from a multitude of manufacturers, from extremely small boutique / cheapo to absolutely massive like Samsung.

Quite.

Love my Samsung. Gave up my work iPhone.

EasterIssland · 08/08/2022 22:29

Wineislifealways · 08/08/2022 21:30

He’s always complaining about lack of storage on his android phone too

This has nothing to do with android or iPhone bjt the storage purchased for his phone.

I’ve iPhone and my battery is crap. Doesn’t last a day. iPhone 12+

TealAndTurquoise · 08/08/2022 22:30

@HelloThereObiWan was just about to say the same. I recently swapped from a Sony ZX premium to a Google Pixel 6pro and the transfer process was seamless. Only had to enter my Google password and everything moved over. I've never had a problem connecting my Pixel earbuds. I just open the case and they connect straight away to the phone.

Willyoujustbequiet · 08/08/2022 22:30

I've had both. Much prefer android and would never go back now.

Rosehugger · 08/08/2022 22:30

I find Apple products really restrictive and my work iPhone just doesn't work anywhere near as well as my personal phone Android. Basic stuff goes wrong all the time.

After having iPods in the noughties and using the shitstow that was iTunes on a PC it put me off Apple products for life and I leapt at Androud when it came out.

DaisyWaldron · 08/08/2022 22:30

I prefer Android because it's more customisable and better value for money. But Apple bought up Dark Sky Weather which was the best weather app by far and are turning it into Apple Weather which (a) makes me dislike Apple intensely because I can no longer use Dark Sky and (b) means that there is one thing I do prefer about Apple.

InTheShadeOfTheFigTree · 08/08/2022 22:31

Android OS for phone and tablet. My Samsung managed a whole washing machine cycle, receiving a WhatsApp part way through, and came out after the spin still working fine.

I had an iPad once. Put it up for sale after a day.

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